"Intermediary midi mapping" software *discussion thread* (Traktor mapping is a pain)

[decon]

Yeah it's really weird. I have no idea of what midi-ox is. I'll be trying to configure the pad in the korg software (you probably know of it already). Sorry for the short answer, I'll be getting back asap

Okay so there's a factory settings file with the software:
nanoPAD Scene Set.nanopad_set
Tried loading it, here's the new data (much better, still not there though):

NoteOn   A#0 24      0x90 0x22 0x18  chan=1 
NoteOff  A#0 64      0x80 0x22 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   A#1 86      0x90 0x2e 0x56  chan=1 
NoteOff  A#1 64      0x80 0x2e 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   G#1 86      0x90 0x2c 0x56  chan=1 
NoteOff  G#1 64      0x80 0x2c 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   C#2 100     0x90 0x31 0x64  chan=1 
NoteOff  C#2 64      0x80 0x31 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   A#1 24      0x90 0x2e 0x18  chan=1 
NoteOff  A#1 64      0x80 0x2e 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   A#1 27      0x90 0x2e 0x1b  chan=1 
NoteOff  A#1 64      0x80 0x2e 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   A#1 27      0x90 0x2e 0x1b  chan=1 
NoteOff  A#1 64      0x80 0x2e 0x40  chan=1 
NoteOn   A#1 31      0x90 0x2e 0x1f  chan=1 
CC         0 66      0xb0 0x00 0x42  chan=1 
CC         1 13      0xb0 0x01 0x0d  chan=1 
CC         0 49      0xb0 0x00 0x31  chan=1 
CC         1 1       0xb0 0x01 0x01  chan=1 
CC         0 124     0xb0 0x00 0x7c  chan=1 
CC         1 73      0xb0 0x01 0x49  chan=1 
CC         0 125     0xb0 0x00 0x7d  chan=1 
CC         1 74      0xb0 0x01 0x4a  chan=1 
CC         0 126     0xb0 0x00 0x7e  chan=1 
CC         1 75      0xb0 0x01 0x4b  chan=1 
CC         0 127     0xb0 0x00 0x7f  chan=1 
CC         1 76      0xb0 0x01 0x4c  chan=1 
CC         1 77      0xb0 0x01 0x4d  chan=1 
CC         1 78      0xb0 0x01 0x4e  chan=1 
CC         1 79      0xb0 0x01 0x4f  chan=1 
CC         1 87      0xb0 0x01 0x57  chan=1 
CC         1 89      0xb0 0x01 0x59  chan=1 
CC         1 94      0xb0 0x01 0x5e  chan=1 
CC         1 95      0xb0 0x01 0x5f  chan=1 
CC         1 96      0xb0 0x01 0x60  chan=1 
CC         1 97      0xb0 0x01 0x61  chan=1 
CC         1 96      0xb0 0x01 0x60  chan=1 
CC         0 126     0xb0 0x00 0x7e  chan=1 
CC         1 95      0xb0 0x01 0x5f  chan=1 
CC         0 125     0xb0 0x00 0x7d  chan=1 
CC         0 52      0xb0 0x00 0x34  chan=1 
CC         1 0       0xb0 0x01 0x00  chan=1 
CC         0 64      0xb0 0x00 0x40  chan=1 
CC         1 0       0xb0 0x01 0x00  chan=1 
CC         0 65      0xb0 0x00 0x41  chan=1 
CC         0 74      0xb0 0x00 0x4a  chan=1 
CC         0 75      0xb0 0x00 0x4b  chan=1 
CC         0 76      0xb0 0x00 0x4c  chan=1 
CC         0 77      0xb0 0x00 0x4d  chan=1 
CC         0 76      0xb0 0x00 0x4c  chan=1 
CC         0 74      0xb0 0x00 0x4a  chan=1 
CC         0 64      0xb0 0x00 0x40  chan=1 
CC         1 0       0xb0 0x01 0x00  chan=1 
CC         0 63      0xb0 0x00 0x3f  chan=1 
CC         0 64      0xb0 0x00 0x40  chan=1 
CC         0 65      0xb0 0x00 0x41  chan=1 
CC         0 75      0xb0 0x00 0x4b  chan=1 
CC         0 77      0xb0 0x00 0x4d  chan=1 
CC         0 88      0xb0 0x00 0x58  chan=1 
CC         0 89      0xb0 0x00 0x59  chan=1

These are NOT the factory settings, I changed it around a bit, but it works just as bad with the factory settings it seems

[zestoi]

These are NOT the factory settings, I changed it around a bit, but it works just as bad with the factory settings it seems

nice... that all looks pretty sane now. just noteon/off's when u press pads, and not a stream of them like before, and the CC's are from when u are using the X/Y pad i presume.

you'll need to run learn.exe to create a new devices file and then all should be good to go.

you should be able to use learn.exe to map the x/y pad CC's too - if not then these two lines in your new devices/nanopad2.lua file should do the trick (i think):

add_control("x", 1, "cc", 0)
add_control("y", 1, "cc", 1)

they'd be cool to map to stuff for sure...

so why do u say "working bad" now? it looks like it should all work fine.

[muffintop]

Is the slicer function available yet? If so how do I make it work? Don't need the full twitch loops, and beatroll... just the slicer.

Is that doable?

[zestoi]

Is the slicer function available yet? If so how do I make it work? Don't need the full twitch loops, and beatroll... just the slicer.

Is that doable?

do u mean my implementation of itch's slicer or the beat slicer in traktor?

if u mean mine then have a look in config/lpd8.lua - i haven't tried it for a while and it was getting *some* jumps wrong last time i tried it. it will just need some debug to work out what part of the beatphase we are in at the time the user hits a button to make sure we are quantizing the hit the same way that traktor is. else it can jump to one beat too far or not enough.

i will be fixing that soon (maybe this weekend) for my own launchpad mapping - so u might want to wait for that and copy my config code. you can map it anywhere u want - no need to use the twitch style areas like i want to use.

i've also read the twitch manual since coding that and so have more of an idea of how it's supposed to work in itch.

the plan is certainly to work on my launchpad mapping this weekend anyway - and will def try to look at that slicer code.

edit: in theory the whole config/lpd8.lua should work on a launchpad if u just change the open_midi_device() line - keep the same name - but change the device type and midi port names. i haven't tried it tho.

[muffintop]

That's exactly what I meant... I'll try the lpd8 one now.

I will use the final version in the long run though. Thanks!

[zestoi]

That's exactly what I meant... I'll try the lpd8 one now.

I will use the final version in the long run though. Thanks!

i think i mostly like the slicer for the way that it iterates round the 8 pads, lighting them up each in turn

[muffintop]

having a little trouble moving it from the lpd8 to the LP, but I can wait.

Still having too much fun with my new config as it is

[zestoi]

having a little trouble moving it from the lpd8 to the LP, but I can wait.

Still having too much fun with my new config as it is

cool sure - now you've reminded me of that code i'll make sure to look at it. the lpd8 is quite a different beast with mapping compared to the launchapd - needs a few hacks that the launchpad doesn't - and doesn't need default 'off' colors etc.

[MiL0]

Have you thought about using a vmeter to give you Novation Twitch style control?

pretty expensive but would look really cool in a custom midi controller running midimasher:

http://vmeter.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOspkbwJsQ

[zestoi]

Have you thought about using a vmeter to give you Novation Twitch style control?

pretty expensive but would look really cool in a custom midi controller running midimasher:

http://vmeter.net/

damn that is cool! and cheap too... the name "Curious Inventor" does ring a bell, think i must have seen some video before or something but didn't realise it was a finished product.

cheap at 60$... tho not if i bought 8 or so of them i just use one or two of my scs.3d's for touch strip goodness but doesn't have anything like the amount of leds ofc that looks like a 1:1 mapping from absolute midi position to led?

i'm planning on using i the scs.3d's relative messages more than absolute ones but displaying the led's in absolute mode. it's a bloody flexible device. half wished i had the scs.3m too - but they never seem to sell cheaply on ebay.

edit: just read u said "pretty expensive"... i think for one they're cheap. but the price will add up very quickly