paid in full!

[Kaon]

lol all g

@laurens
id almost tell the person youll do it for free out of good faith, gotta get your name out there before make any money. imo

[DvlsAdvct]

Honestly, I'd get the bar to cover your expenses (travel, gas, food, and beverages) for the first month or two, and see where it goes from there. Tell them that you want to renegotiate the contract after two months. Over the course of 4 hours, if there are 40 people there regularly while you are spinning it is possible for a bar to sell around $700 (3 drinks per person per hour at $6 a drink, though that is dependent on location). If that's all they are going to make then I wouldn't be able to ask for more than $50.

But if this gives you really good exposure to those 40 people every night, you can then approach a larger bar to make more money. Or, it could allow this bar to make more money (steadier stream of people from beginning to end of the night means more people drinking means more money, etc. etc. etc.) and hence pay you more.

But yeah, you can't feasibly ask for 1/5 of their take home if they are only making $500. It'd be easier, and cheaper, to just put up an ipod.

[Monika.mhz]

Devil brings up a good point. If they've got a kitchen, ask for a free meal! That's worth an extra 10 bucks on your bill, and you get to show up a little early, get some food in your stomach before you start rocking.

I like to try to negotiate a little food into my gigs. Some days I use it, some days I don't. But most places that have a kitchen are usually happy to oblige!

[Kaon]

+1 :d

[JesC]

+1 w/food

[DvlsAdvct]

lol all g

@laurens
id almost tell the person youll do it for free out of good faith, gotta get your name out there before make any money. imo

Doing it for free is really rough because you risk never getting any money from this place. So, if you do decide to do it for free, do it under the understanding you'll eventually get paid.

By understanding I mean contract.

[djpbe]

I should have been more clear about the $100. That's the minimum when the bar was dead. The average is around $200 with a maximum of $400. In this area there is never a cover unless some big name international DJ is playing, which unfortunately is not me. At this point I play for fun not for profit.

[Monika.mhz]

Microwave DJ guide.
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Step 1: Download 600 mp3s from itunes.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!

heheh

[Kaon]

Doing it for free is really rough because you risk never getting any money from this place. So, if you do decide to do it for free, do it under the understanding you'll eventually get paid.

By understanding I mean contract.

hm... ive never heard of contracts here so i dont know how they work
(its the south island, they live about 20 years in the past )

but i put emphasis on the first being free and make it very clear that its only the first gig and its only happening because youre a really good chap.

[JesC]

Microwave DJ guide.
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Step 1: Download 600 mp3s from blogs
Step 2: Download torrent of Traktor (no no no!)
Step 3: Profit!

This is what not to do!