4 Deck use w/ Novation Remote SL 25
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    Default 4 Deck use w/ Novation Remote SL 25

    I finally got my new mixer... DN-X500...I love this mixer especially for the price...

    So i just got my 4 deck mapping done... It needs a little bit more work on a few things, but works well for now! I would like to somehow get some sort of scratching capabilities using the xy touch pad if someone can explain the best way to set that up...

    UPDATED the hotcues!
    Last edited by DjYanaki; 12-18-2009 at 11:08 PM. Reason: NEW FILES

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    here is a picture of the mapping... still working on a more comfortable layout.. i have played around with this for the past two days. its kinda growing on me but i still need a few things...

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    Load Selected CC 1 (ch1) Deck A Trigger -
    Load Selected CC 3 (ch1) Deck B Trigger -
    Load Selected CC 5 (ch1) Deck C Trigger -
    Load Selected CC 7 (ch1) Deck D Trigger -
    Loop Size CC 10 (ch1) Deck A Direct - Sensitivity = 50%, Acceleration = 4%
    Loop Size CC 12 (ch1) Deck B Direct - Sensitivity = 50%, Acceleration = 4%
    Loop Size CC 14 (ch1) Deck C Direct - Sensitivity = 50%, Acceleration = 4%
    Loop Size CC 16 (ch1) Deck D Direct - Sensitivity = 50%, Acceleration = 4%
    Loop Set CC 2 (ch1) Deck A Trigger -
    Loop Set CC 4 (ch1) Deck B Trigger -
    Loop Set CC 6 (ch1) Deck C Trigger -
    Loop Set CC 8 (ch1) Deck D Trigger -
    Filter CC 9 (ch1) Deck A Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%, Takeover = On
    Filter CC 11 (ch1) Deck B Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Filter CC 13 (ch1) Deck C Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Filter CC 15 (ch1) Deck D Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Play/Pause CC 33 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
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    Play/Pause CC 37 (ch1) Deck C Hold -
    Play/Pause CC 39 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Loop In/Set Cue CC 34 (ch1) Deck A Trigger -
    Loop In/Set Cue CC 36 (ch1) Deck B Trigger -
    Loop In/Set Cue CC 38 (ch1) Deck C Trigger -
    Loop In/Set Cue CC 40 (ch1) Deck D Trigger -
    Cue CC 17 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
    Cue CC 19 (ch1) Deck B Toggle -
    Cue CC 21 (ch1) Deck C Toggle -
    Cue CC 23 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Cup (Cue Play) CC 18 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
    Cup (Cue Play) CC 20 (ch1) Deck B Toggle -
    Cup (Cue Play) CC 22 (ch1) Deck C Toggle -
    Cup (Cue Play) CC 24 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Dry/Wet Chained CC 25 (ch1) FX Unit 1 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Effect 1 Amount CC 26 (ch1) FX Unit 1 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
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    Dry/Wet Chained CC 29 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Effect 1 Amount CC 30 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Effect 1 On CC 30 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Hold -
    Effect 2 On CC 31 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Hold -
    Effect 2 Amount CC 31 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Effect 3 Amount CC 32 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
    Effect 3 On CC 32 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Hold -
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    Effect On CC 42 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Direct On
    Effect Button 1 CC 50 (ch1) FX Unit 2 Toggle -
    Sync CC 49 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
    Sync CC 51 (ch1) Deck B Toggle -
    Sync CC 53 (ch1) Deck C Toggle -
    Sync CC 55 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Effect Unit 1 On CC 57 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
    Effect Unit 1 On CC 59 (ch1) Deck B Toggle -
    Effect Unit 1 On CC 61 (ch1) Deck C Toggle -
    Effect Unit 1 On CC 63 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Effect Unit 2 On CC 58 (ch1) Deck A Toggle -
    Effect Unit 2 On CC 60 (ch1) Deck B Toggle -
    Effect Unit 2 On CC 62 (ch1) Deck C Toggle -
    Effect Unit 2 On CC 64 (ch1) Deck D Toggle -
    Only Browser Toggle CC 68 (ch1) Global Toggle -
    Only Browser Toggle CC 1 (ch1) Global Toggle -
    Only Browser Toggle CC 3 (ch1) Global Toggle -
    Only Browser Toggle CC 5 (ch1) Global Toggle -
    Only Browser Toggle CC 7 (ch1) Global Toggle -
    Tempo CC 41 (ch1) Deck A Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
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    Tempo CC 47 (ch1) Deck D Direct - Sensitivity = 10%, Acceleration = 0%
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    List Select Up/Down Note G#4 (ch1) Global Previous - AutoRepeat = On, Resolution = 1
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    List Select Page Up/Down Note D#3 (ch1) Global Next - AutoRepeat = On, Resolution = 1
    Select Hotcue Note C3 (ch1) Deck A Hold HotCue 1
    Select Hotcue Note D3 (ch1) Deck A Hold HotCue 2
    Select Hotcue Note E3 (ch1) Deck A Hold HotCue 3
    Select Hotcue Note F3 (ch1) Deck A Hold HotCue 4
    Select Hotcue Note G3 (ch1) Deck B Hold HotCue 1
    Select Hotcue Note A3 (ch1) Deck B Hold HotCue 2
    Select Hotcue Note B3 (ch1) Deck B Hold HotCue 3
    Select Hotcue Note C4 (ch1) Deck B Hold HotCue 4
    Select Hotcue Note D4 (ch1) Deck C Hold HotCue 1
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    Select Hotcue Note F4 (ch1) Deck C Hold HotCue 3
    Select Hotcue Note G4 (ch1) Deck C Hold HotCue 4
    Select Hotcue Note A4 (ch1) Deck D Hold HotCue 1
    Select Hotcue Note B4 (ch1) Deck D Hold HotCue 2
    Select Hotcue Note C5 (ch1) Deck D Hold HotCue 3

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    This is also a pic of what the future of my remote sl will look like... Just waiting on some more funds to start!

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    Hey Man,

    Thanks for posting! I just remapped my novation remote zero sl for 4 decks, with an external mixer, so it was interesting seeing how someone else went about doing it. My mapping is still a work in progress, but I'll resurrect this thread when it's a bit more polished.

    Interesting add-on component you're thinking of building. Will this be a separate unit you'll plug in with a usb? I'm programming some modifiers to use the 8 drum pads as hot cue buttons for each of the 4 decks, but building a dedicated unit looks like a cool solution too...

    - Jones
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    well... apparently from what the rest of the guys on here said... since there are 25 keys on mine... if i remove the keys and scrub off the crap covering the connections and soder to the buttons them it will work.. as far as the two rotary knobs i think i will need more than the two connection available but since i have 16 arcade buttons and two regulars buttons i think i can make this work... and as far as the mapping it should work the same on the buttons but im a little confused how it will read the roatry functions???

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    thanks for the response though.. i would love to see how you have yours setup!

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    want to try it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Jones View Post
    Hey Man,

    Thanks for posting! I just remapped my novation remote zero sl for 4 decks, with an external mixer, so it was interesting seeing how someone else went about doing it. My mapping is still a work in progress, but I'll resurrect this thread when it's a bit more polished.

    Interesting add-on component you're thinking of building. Will this be a separate unit you'll plug in with a usb? I'm programming some modifiers to use the 8 drum pads as hot cue buttons for each of the 4 decks, but building a dedicated unit looks like a cool solution too...

    - Jones
    I, too, just got through my 1st iteration of a 4 deck mapping for my zero sl. I'd LOVE to know how you get the drum pads to work for hot cues. The problem I'm seeing is that you can't midi map them the same way for hot cues as for other functions, like "play/pause" where you can set to "toggle". My mapping included that and right now I'm having to scrap that idea, unless someone shares how they made it work.

    Maybe you can post your tsi/syx so I can see how you did it?

    Oh...and btw...do you use multiple template paging (2 or more template pages linked to each other)? I can't seem to get it to work properly, though I've followed the instructions (edit template settings 2 size, 1 or 2 position.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EHR View Post
    I, too, just got through my 1st iteration of a 4 deck mapping for my zero sl. I'd LOVE to know how you get the drum pads to work for hot cues. The problem I'm seeing is that you can't midi map them the same way for hot cues as for other functions, like "play/pause" where you can set to "toggle". My mapping included that and right now I'm having to scrap that idea, unless someone shares how they made it work.

    Maybe you can post your tsi/syx so I can see how you did it?

    Oh...and btw...do you use multiple template paging (2 or more template pages linked to each other)? I can't seem to get it to work properly, though I've followed the instructions (edit template settings 2 size, 1 or 2 position.

    Thanks!
    Hey EHR,

    Wow... sorry for the lateness of my reply. Took a bit of hiatus.

    So, I actually never managed to fix the Novation drum pads to use as hot cues. I had them set up to jump forward and backwards (next cue and previous cue) for each of the four decks, but never put in the time to have each mapped to 8 hotcues for each of the four decks.

    When I tried mapping this, I was getting some really weird behavior for the drum pads. When I went into the Novation editing software, I figured that if I changed the drumpads to send out midi notes as opposed to drum notes, the odd behavior would stop. I never went to town on this, as I ended up using the controller more with Traktor's internal mixer, in conjunction with a Nocturn.

    Due to the fact I've been working a lot, I treated myself to Kontrol X1... and, that's kind of worked out well for me mixing externally. I've been using timecode and two decks for the major events I've played over the last four months... so the four deck external mapping with the Novation just kept getting put off.

    - Jones
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