Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread

[uncletones]

Hi

Was hoping you guys could clear something up for me about my DB4.

When I cue up Channel A in my headphone adjustments to the ISO/EQ/Filter comes through on the headphones, but does not for Channels B, C and D.

Have I missed a setting on the other channels or is this correct? (for mic settings maybe?)

Find it really handy in Channel A!

Apologies if this has been asked and answered before. I have scoured the net for an answer!!

Thanks very much for your help.

uncletones

[ferluno01]

Hi

Was hoping you guys could clear something up for me about my DB4.

When I cue up Channel A in my headphone adjustments to the ISO/EQ/Filter comes through on the headphones, but does not for Channels B, C and D.

Have I missed a setting on the other channels or is this correct? (for mic settings maybe?)

Find it really handy in Channel A!

Apologies if this has been asked and answered before. I have scoured the net for an answer!!

Thanks very much for your help.

uncletones

Do you have your FX settings setup correctly? Make sure it's set to EQ: Pre Fx

[jdownesbaird]

Since there isn't an "Official Unofficial DB2 Thread", I thought I would ask my question here since there is a lot of shared functionality between the DB2 and DB4. However, it's my understanding that the DB4 doesn't have Cascade mode, but maybe some of you can still help me.

Whenever I put my DB2 in Cascade mode, I am able to route audio through effects engine X THEN through effects engine Y. However, according to the manual, it should still be possible to only access a single effects engine (Y) in Cascade Mode:

"In cascade mode, any channel routed to FX-X can be processed by both engines, but the single effect on
the FX-Y engine can still be accessed by routing the channel to Y."

This isn't the case, though. When I put the DB2 in Cascade mode and route a channel to Y, it is still processed by both FX engines. Also, using the filter knob for X will alter the sound.

Is there a way to truly bypass engine X in Cascade Mode, as advertised? I've tried to get some help from the Xone forum and through Allen & Heath, but I've received no response. Thanks for any insight.

[Paka Ono]

^^ I think you might be confused. If you only want the single effect of Y, why are you cascading? The whole purpose of cascading is to chain X & Y effects together.

What the manual is trying to say, is that you can still assign a channel to the single effect on Y while cascading another channel to X and Y.

Hope that helps

[Paka Ono]

The whole reason Im in this thread, is because I was at a friends last night and got to spend a decent amount of time messing around with his DB4 and man it's pretty damn sweet. If I had the budget I would def own one.

My only complaint is that I wish the sampler could hold 8 or 16 beats. 4 beats doesn't seem like enough.

[jdownesbaird]

^^ I think you might be confused. If you only want the single effect of Y, why are you cascading? The whole purpose of cascading is to chain X & Y effects together.

What the manual is trying to say, is that you can still assign a channel to the single effect on Y while cascading another channel to X and Y.

Hope that helps

Thanks for the input, but that's exactly how I interpreted it as well, but it doesn't actually work that way.

Let's say I want channel 1 to cascade from effect X to Y, but I want channel 2 to only use effect Y. Well, I have to turn on Cascade Mode in the global menu first. If I route channel 1 to effect X, it behaves as expected by going through the X engine and then the Y engine. However, if I route channel 2 to Y, it still goes through X first. In fact, any channel routed to either effect will route from X to Y, so I actually can't just do what the manual says.

If I don't turn Cascade Mode on in the menu, then I can access each effect engine individually, but can no longer cascade. The manual, as you also interpreted, makes it sound like I should be able to access only a single effect engine even when Cascade mode is on simply by routing to Y only. But that's not how it's working.

[djproben]

My only complaint is that I wish the sampler could hold 8 or 16 beats. 4 beats doesn't seem like enough.

Agreed - I wonder if that has been suggested as a firmware update; I would assume it's possible and probably pretty easy to do.

[djproben]

Whenever I put my DB2 in Cascade mode, I am able to route audio through effects engine X THEN through effects engine Y.

The DB4 REALLY needs this option.

[Paka Ono]

Thanks for the input, but that's exactly how I interpreted it as well, but it doesn't actually work that way.

Let's say I want channel 1 to cascade from effect X to Y, but I want channel 2 to only use effect Y. Well, I have to turn on Cascade Mode in the global menu first. If I route channel 1 to effect X, it behaves as expected by going through the X engine and then the Y engine. However, if I route channel 2 to Y, it still goes through X first. In fact, any channel routed to either effect will route from X to Y, so I actually can't just do what the manual says.

If I don't turn Cascade Mode on in the menu, then I can access each effect engine individually, but can no longer cascade. The manual, as you also interpreted, makes it sound like I should be able to access only a single effect engine even when Cascade mode is on simply by routing to Y only. But that's not how it's working.

Ahhh...

Does changing FX routing between Pre/Post fade have any effect on this issue?

[DarioJ]

My only complaint is that I wish the sampler could hold 8 or 16 beats. 4 beats doesn't seem like enough.

http://youtu.be/qcKycHHHJj0?t=3m8s

I am pretty sure it does: 1-= 4 beats / 2- = 8 beats / 4- = 16 beats (in the LED display)

I'm not in front of the mixer to test if it does anything otherwise, but I am pretty sure its functional as listed above. Now if we could get it to do a phrase, I'd be pretty happy!