How to map controls to move around the "session" view in Ableton and mapping pads

[IvanAbrasive]

Hi, I'm stucked by mapping my MIDI controller to Ableton. I see in tons of videos some scenes grouped, wich you can move between them, and playing them with the same pads, I'll try to explain myself.

I have 2 channels A and B, with 2 channels inside each of them (Tracks + Loops), ok. In each scene, I have 4 clips, so I construct my set in a simple group 4scenesx4clipseach, when I extend this set to 16scenesx4clipeach, I should map the bank 2 of the pads to the next 4x4, and I'm stucked with this. I wanna use the same pads (without changing the bank) while I move around all the scenes, grouping the scenes by 4.

******* NOW
(Each clip is mapped to a pad TR1-> pad1 / L1->pad2 / TR2->pad3 / L2->pad4 and continuing)

Ch. A / Tracks / Loops ||||| Ch. B / Tracks / Loops

|||||||| TR1 / L1 |||||||| TR1 / L1
|||||||| TR2 / L2 |||||||| TR2 / L2
|||||||| TR3 / L3 |||||||| TR3 / L3
|||||||| TR4 / L4 |||||||| TR4 / L4
|||||||| TR5 / L5 |||||||| TR5 / L5
|||||||| TR6 / L6 |||||||| TR6 / L6
|||||||| TR7 / L7 |||||||| TR7 / L7
|||||||| TR8 / L8 |||||||| TR8 / L8
|||||||| TR9 / L9 |||||||| TR9 / L9
|||||||| TR10 / L10 |||||||| TR10 / L10
|||||||| TR11 / L11 |||||||| TR11 / L11
|||||||| TR12 / L12 |||||||| TR12 / L12
|||||||| TR13/ L13 |||||||| TR13/ L13
|||||||| TR14 / L14 |||||||| TR14 / L14
|||||||| TR15 / L15 |||||||| TR15 / L15
|||||||| TR16 / L16 |||||||| TR16 / L16

********** WHAT I WANT TO DO

I wanna move around scene groups, and launch the clips with the same pads always, just moving and changing the groups by moving the cross keys I have.

Ch. A / Tracks / Loops ||||| Ch. B / Tracks / Loops
_________________________________________
|
|||||||| TR1 / L1 |||||||| TR1 / L1 | PAD LINE 1
|||||||| TR2 / L2 |||||||| TR2 / L2 | PAD LINE 2
|||||||| TR3 / L3 |||||||| TR3 / L3 | PAD LINE 3
|||||||| TR4 / L4 |||||||| TR4 / L4 | PAD LINE 4
_________________________________________|
_________________________________________
|
|||||||| TR5 / L5 |||||||| TR5 / L5 | PAD LINE 1
|||||||| TR6 / L6 |||||||| TR6 / L6 | PAD LINE 2
|||||||| TR7 / L7 |||||||| TR7 / L7 | PAD LINE 3
|||||||| TR8 / L8 |||||||| TR8 / L8 | PAD LINE 4
_________________________________________|
_________________________________________
|
|||||||| TR9 / L9 |||||||| TR9 / L9 | PAD LINE 1
|||||||| TR10 / L10 |||||||| TR10 / L10 | PAD LINE 2
|||||||| TR11 / L11 |||||||| TR11 / L11 | PAD LINE 3
|||||||| TR12 / L12 |||||||| TR12 / L12 | PAD LINE 4
_________________________________________|
_________________________________________
|
|||||||| TR13/ L13 |||||||| TR13/ L13 | PAD LINE 1
|||||||| TR14 / L14 |||||||| TR14 / L14 | PAD LINE 2
|||||||| TR15 / L15 |||||||| TR15 / L15 | PAD LINE 3
|||||||| TR16 / L16 |||||||| TR16 / L16 | PAD LINE 4
_________________________________________|


Believe me, I've been searching all around the Internet and can't find anything related as this is a feature normally mapped by default with systems like Push or Launchpad, I've seen MIDI Fighter too.

My controller is an M-Audio Axion AIR Mini 32, btw, this should be not a problem, as I can map it as I want.

Thanks a lot in advance and waiting for a nice help!

[Patch]

Get Bomes Midi translator.

You can then map the arrow keys on your computer keyboard to the buttons on your controller - so you can navigae around the session view howver you like. Then - just map another button to launch the clip.

Bomes is great. I used to do this with my UC-33e. Mouseless Navigation of Live is great.