Kontrol f1 - Maschiine - Maschine mikro ???

[Gamm_o]

Hi , just a ''simple'' question
which should be better
maschine
maschine mikro
or the new Kontrol f1 ?
i know they have different functions
the maschine(standard) is like 600 $
and the mikro , some people say its not that good
im not very familiar at producing (i've done some songs) , and i dont want to get stuck in the maschine you know only use it like 2 weeks lol
so i need opinion in what should i buy ?

[mostapha]

What are you trying to accomplish? Maschine is just better than maschine mikro if you're the least bit serious and like knobs. The F1 is for a completely different purpose.

If you're going to use it for traktor, the F1.

If you want to get into groove based production, it's a question of budget and how much you like having knobs.

[Gamm_o]

yeah youre right , for example i guess the f1 is more like improvising right?
and also
thats my question
like whats the difference in the mikro from the standar maschine
for example
the knobs
and thanks for replying

[photojojo]

The first thing you need you to do is figure out what you want to do.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...kro/?page=2919

[mostapha]

Having used both, the biggest difference between maschine and mikro is that the mikro's control structure is so bad that you might as well do about everything with the mouse (apart from the pads, ofc). The knob is basically there just for writing automation and sorta kinda browsing sounds.

[Gamm_o]

yeah thanks!!
for example i have a s4 and a x1,
and i want a production set ,
and ive seen the kontrol f1 previews and ummm im not very '''impressed'' so i thought that the kontrol f1 is more like a '''''light-traktor'' version of maschine ?

[Gamm_o]

yeah you're right ive seen that in other reviews,
and also i mean its a huge difference (almost 300 dlls lol )
another question bro,
does the maschine (mikro-standard ) does it comes with dubstep samples-one shots etc but like
fat dirty sounds?
cus a lot of people says that they bought the ''massive'''
and i looked at that and its also 200 $ more
damn!!!
*btw sorry for my english *
thanks again!!!!!!!!!!

[mostapha]

It comes with samples/sounds that can be used for dubstep. And you can find them other places. Massive is popular because of NI's marketing.

You will want a synth at some point, but any subtractive synth can make a dubstep bass. It's not a particularly complicated sound.



He's using an MPC, not Maschine, but everything he's doing is possible with Maschine and any subtractive synth, including a lot of free ones……or some of the samples within Maschine. It just takes a willingness to put in the time to learn the thing.