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  • Anton.a1

    Dear Native Instruments,

    I just bought your overpriced Studio controller a few months back when it first came out, and now you’ve already decided to discount it? I knew this was coming but would not have expected it until a least a year after the launch of such a prestigious, luxury product.

    I seriously don’t feel that is either fair or a good business practice and I want my $200 back! For starters, I would suggest an equivalent discount on a future purchase of Komplete etc. (on top of the cross-grade discount), Traktor S4, or other quality gear/software for all Studio owners who overpaid.

    For those who didn’t jump right away on Studio, I’m happy for you. But for those of us who led the way and did what amounts to real time beta-testing to iron out the bugs…wtf?

    No other way you will win my respect (and $) back….

    http://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/a-giant-beat/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=A GIANT BEAT&utm_source=newsletter

  • shen

    I can’t seem to find Half Velocity in Step Mode in 2.0. Help please?!



  • Okaruto

    So how would the learning curve be for someone who is completely new to production?

  • ?The Other Denzel?

    You can use Traktors Effects, you just have to purchase them separately

  • Rayalon

    Comparing the Electribe to Maschine is like comparing a Toyota to a Ferrari.
    The Maschine 2.0 software together with Studio is a beast.

    • Oddie O’Phyle

      owning maschine doesn’t stop me from using my monotribe, mc808, r5 or any of my synths. sampling these gives you a sounds that cannot be reproduced digitally on a computer. you speak of the electribe as if you really know it, if you did, you’d realize that the electribe has more fullness of sound than you will ever get from a soundcard. it may have something to do with a vacum tube. the toyota to ferrari analogy that you use is almost correct. the corolla is the most reliable car on the market, but until you turn on your computer, your ferrari doesn’t even have an engine.

      • Rayalon

        Obviously, you never heard Monark (for example). Compare that to your precious analog equipment and give me some feedback ;)

        • Oddie O’Phyle

          i own komplete (i’m familiar with monarch, massive, reaktor, absynth…) and use it with maschine… on a regular basis. sure, having access to ALL the same sounds and vst as other producers is nice, if you want to sound like all the other producers, but artist like oliveoil and amon tobin have taught us that sampling sounds and hardware has a feel all of it’s own.

          NI makes a nicely rounded high quality product and i promote NI as much as possible, but if the product were a “box” and it being the only “box” you climb into, are you then able to think outside of it?

          • Rayalon

            Well, only Reaktor on its own is quite a box….it gives you the ability to sound like no one before. Back to your analogy – if you guys all sample the same analog synths – you all sound the same, which is kinda the point you were making…

          • Oddie O’Phyle

            i don’t think that you are getting my point… if all you use is maschine. your library is the same as everyone else’s. yeah, sure i have static friction, but then again so do 1000′s of others… all using massive or other vst’s (that we all recognize). try to finding a vst that sounds like my midi-modded monotribe, circuit-bent R5 or circuit-bent JV-80 that i sample in maschine. as i’ve said before… NI makes a nice package, with nice vst’s… and i use them… but hardware will always have it’s place. where are your samples, if there was no hardware for NI to record them? honestly, i know what an 808 sounds like, i own one. can you honestly say that you know what a real 808 sounds like and not just a sample base? if you think that all hardware begins to sound the same you may want to check out dapayk or dominic eulberg.

          • Rayalon

            I totally get your point, but you don’t seem to get mine. I’m not referring to “Static Friction”and other extensions, but to actual software synths that give us the ability to create new and exciting sounds, like Reaktor for example. I own many hardware synths but most of them are being used as midi keyboards these days…
            Happy 2014

          • Odddie O’Phyle

            i get your point too, but if we are all just using the expansions and library with all the same vst’s we lock ourselves into a smaller sound base. i personally want to grab kinetic metal for maschine, as you’ve stated, some of the vst’s they have sound like nothing else.
            on the other hand, were you aware that you could import those loops and sounds created by maschine to your electribe as a .esx file an get a fuller sound on the play back due to the hardware?
            it’s not the hardware or the software, but the willingness to try new things and creativity of the person using it. why not dust off the old syths, patch into a mixer an use the sampler in maschine… chop, slice and effect the hardware that we loved enough to spend $$$ on and use it as a new sound?
            enjoy the new year… beat well and groove on.

          • Viktor de Hegyessy

            I think both of you are right.. and you are pretty much stating the same argument, just one is biased by hardware and the other by software.. the thing is that if you gave ham and cheese to two different chefs I am 100% sure they wouldn’t prepare the exact same dish! One will make omlette, the other pizza.. but even if both of them would have made an omlette, it wouldn’t taste the exact same. So let it be hardware or software… it does not matter. Every one has its own taste, own manners… resulting unique products. Using software (or one particular soft.) doesn’t mean you will sound like anyone else.. and vice versa, just because you are using hardware synths won’t make your sound outstanding… enough said.. at the end both of you just want to make music.

  • Rostok

    Very nice indeed, but then a Korg Electribe is still a third of the price, with a more “hands on” workflow…

    • White Wulfe

      - Try importing samples into an ESX-1. It’s a pain, even when using third party software. With Maschine it takes you more time to find the files than it does to load them.
      - I fail to see how an Electribe (any of them) is any easier to use than Maschine given that most common features with even the Maschine mkII are at most two buttons and a knob twist away, not to mention the most commonly modified things are right there on the main screens.
      - Maschine doesn’t have anywhere near the jitter with MIDI that the Electribes have.
      - You cannot vary how powerful a part is on an Electribe by using JUST the amount of pressure/force you apply to the pad
      - I distinctly remember it being annoying to hit a precise pitch on my Electribe ER-1 mkII, whereas with Maschine it can be readily done using just Maschine’s pads
      - No additional cables required to record what you’re doing into a DAW if you’re using Maschine (not really a valid point, but it does help with keeping your desk tidy)
      - If I want to add additional sounds, I actually can with Maschine, whereas with most Electribes (with the notable exception of the ES-1 and ESX-1) it is impossible to add extra sounds to the physical machine itself. The ability to add in other VST(i)’s can be quite useful.

      Biggest one to me though? Maschine is still in production for the three most current SKUs (Maschine mkII, Maschine Micro mkII, and Maschine Studio), whereas the original four Electribes are discontinued (EA, EM, ER, and ES) and the EMX(SD) and ESX(SD) are difficult to find new, with plenty of rumours circulating around that they’ve been end of lined by Korg (aka, discontinued)

      • Oddie O’Phyle

        a friend of mine had one (esx-1sd, i think… the red one), it sounded very nice… and full. importing .esx and usage of conversion software seemed too much of a pain… it’s why i got a roland mc-series at the time instead. after that i got into live for 6 and 7, but switched to maschine when 8 came out. i find the workflow intuitive to use and patterns flow that much smoother. it’s nice having a Guitar Rig Kontrol to patch the record out of my A&H ZED10FX. sampling in maschine is a joy :) and all the old hardware that i have sounds just as good as it ever did, but now with all the power behind maschine.

        i <3 maschine, but the hardware still remains just as useful (only now the hardware is more of a "pre-production" process instead of part of the actual production process).

  • DJ_ForcedHand

    The Maschine Studio is a great piece of gear that effectively takes on the MPC 5000 and Renaissance. While it isn’t stand-alone, it certainly makes the most of being tethered to a computing device. Realistically, this is more than most DJs would ever use live, but it’s nice to make that choice yourself (instead of other people making that choice for you).

    That being said, this is exactly what Native Instruments needs to do to their Traktor Kontrol line of controllers. Sure, this isn’t going to be something that everyone snaps up to play with, but it’s supposed to be professional gear, intended for use by professionals.

    As an observed trend, Digital DJs are quickly defining themselves as “more than just a digital version of an analog DJ.” This is (only part of) what we do with the extra time we have by uploading all of tracks on our computer and pressing the sync button to make sure the tracks are in time. Scratching (audio and video), Laying in grooves and riffs with drum machines, MIDI guitars, keyboards, and even doing our own voice-overs with microphones? Yeah, we’re doing that… in real-time now.

    The consumer world is waking up to technology being available to everyone, and people are creating things never before imagined with tools that have only been used this way before in the deep underground of Raves. No wonder people are having a hard time categorizing what a Digital DJ does… the established idea doesn’t fit what we (the artists) are doing.

    A drum machine like this can really bring out something special in a set provided YOU have the ability to deliver that content.

  • http://www.slackitude.com jgerry

    Nice review. Personally, I haven’t even dug into the 2.0 software features with my Mikro mkii so I’m not a likely candidate for this. But it sure looks beautiful.

  • Marquee Mark

    Very solid review, thanks markkus

  • Matt

    if only this had an audio interface built in :( for $999 they could have at least figured out how to fit an Audio 2 in there somehow.

    • William Toca

      Nah focusrite…

  • Carlo Atendido

    Video review please!

  • Angelo

    >You may find yourself neglecting your Play Station, pets, and girlfriend once you sit down to work on this controller/production platform.

    Girlfriend? Is that a new VST?

    • dj vaibs

      she’d be the production platform

      • chris

        Dj Dali (Israel) sings, that she was on an journey thru the inside, to understand the outside. *shrug* (what ever that means?)

        minimals vs creatures of the forest ^^

    • penguinsdoom

      Agreed, i only have a Maschine mk2 with maschine 2.0… but im a noob and i never looked at my PC and made a 8 min song in one day. I mean the whole day.