• Anthonie Gonzalez

    Would anyone know why when i click Run.bat i get a window that tells me ” there is no application set to open document RUN.bat” ? thank you!

  • Jeremy

    I want to change the Key in virtual DJ without using my mouse, Is there a key i could press to change it, move it up and down etc

  • Emoutikon

    With keylock ‘on’ in Traktor, even without changing key, it still negatively affects the overall sonic quality of the track, so I still choose not to use it. For samples in the remix decks it’s ok. Harmonic mixing is still the way to go. Great for Techno with those long mixes ;)

    • Farbklang

      Depends totally on the track and how much you change the tempo. If you change the tempo by less than 3,5% or so, most tracks will still sound completely alright, while others will sound completely awful. For those that sound awful, I just add a little hint in the comments like “!KEY!”

  • Hinochino

    I used to take a lot of attention on key to make my set lists, or decisions during a performance.
    At first was good, and produce great results, long smooth mixes etc… But at
    long term, I commence to feel my creativity limited, and even that I wasn’t
    training my ears properly, on the melody aspect, due to the info that Camelot Wheel
    gave me.

    Since I
    realized that, I only use Camelot Wheel (when it’s necessary) on the
    preparation phase of a set, for example to ensure long mixes on songs that I
    want to give more emphasis on the melodic aspect, create mash-ups, etc… But on
    live, always the ear.

    This way to
    go gave me great feel of freedom when mixing, and still produce great results
    (sometimes unexpected), and obviously sometimes not so good. But for me,
    forgetting more about keys, and doing all more intuitive, take me to more “chill”
    moments, and be more empathic with who are listening.

    This is only my personal experience with this tool, but I thought that it deserved to
    put here.

  • DjLiquitATL

    I just purchased mixed in key just cause BUT I have way too many songs in my library so until I condense it down it is useless to me… I have always used my ear…I have a classical (violin) background so it’s not hard for me to tell if it sounds “harmonic” or not

  • Patrick Ijsselstein

    to quote one of my great inspirators, Robert Henke; “Sometimes wrong can be just right” use your ears and your imagination is my advice. Also a cool trick is to slow down (or speed up) track one (in tempo and pitch, turntable style), right to the point where the key of track one matches the second track.

  • Alexandre De Joncaire Narten

    Great article but thought I’d like to add the fact that I’ve found that you can also match mathematical divisions. For example 5A and 10A or 2A and 4A or 2A and 6A go well together. I haven’t check this for all cases but in my experience it works so far.

    Hope this helps for creating original harmonic mixes :D

  • DJ RootBwoy

    Great article! When I switched from the Camelot Wheel system to Traktor’s Open Key system I didn’t knew exactly what the notations meant.

    Could you make a future article with more details about which keys are compatible? Cause I noticed not only the +1/0/-1 works fine, sometimes dividing the open key by 2 or 3 works nice (like going from 12m to 6m, or from 12m to 4m)

  • Paul Cassella

    I’ve never thought about mixing in key i’ll have to try that

  • dion mavath

    Great article, some of the best i’ve read regarding Key

  • bobby

    learn some music theory

  • Volker

    Found this the other day via digital dj tips, you can DL a printable chart of the keys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8jCJtIHXOj0

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theo-Bishop/643886953 Theo Bishop

    “Mixed In Key” has saved me so much time getting my tunes to harmonicly mix. For years i was grouping my vinyl records in key using my ears… i.e find 2 records that are in key, then find a 3rd record that mixes with record 2 , you should find it also mixes with the 1st record. But playing a whole set in one key leaves the crowed static even though your mixes are all in key and in time ! How many dj’s start there set playing there best tunes in the key of … Guess what ??? yep .. 1A right through to 12A. Don’t get me wrong, Mixed In Key is a great tool but try to keep some spontaneity in your mixes. For example …. Wait for the tune you’re playing to get to the last 8 / 4 bars, Hopefully the melody has stopped by now and just the beats remain. Then simply set a 1 or 2 bar loop… you’re now free to mix what ever you like to the looped beat on deck A (if you can’t wait for deck A to get to the end where its just beats, set a cue point and jump to that section when ever you like ! Remember its beat gridded digital files NOT linear vinyl !

  • Anonymous

    i have always mixed different keys by ear… but this was overall a good read :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000531686375 Futureglue Musik

    I use Keylock a lot but… I find that a whole set of camelot up&down is quite boring, that’s why they invented the ‘bridge’ in modern pop songs. Contrast is good: Too much and it lacks unity, too little and it’s looses your attention.

    And you gotta use your ears. Most of the time these key values are off. I use my key knob as if I was tuning my guitar, going up and down until it sounds right.

    Key mixing is definitely one area where your ears know more than the software.

  • Orge

    I generally only pitch +/- 1 semtone in traktor, as 2 seems too noticeable. Rather than clicking around the screen etc, I use a single button on my controller to cycle through the 3 possibilities for that deck (0,+1,-1). This requires the use of a modifier to track the current setting. I also reset the pitch when loading a new track.

  • DJ Ashhh

    There is a small factual mistake in the text. In default mode, the +/- boutons around the key know increase/decrease the key by 2 semitones indeed. This corresponds to a fourteen key jump on the camelot/open key wheel. This often generates significant alteration of the sound. If you want to jump in steps of 7 keys only on those wheels, you have to set the +/- buttons on the “Fine” resolution (right-click on the button and set to “Fine”). This is the setup I use when I DJay.

    • DJ Ashhh

      Traktor counts in units of semi-tones. +1 means one semitone up.

      • DJ Ashhh

        So when you use the “Fine” mode of the +/- buttons, the key knob turns by +/- 1.0, which means 1 semitone, which means 7 keys around the Camelot wheel.

  • lauti

    Is it only me that prefers to mix without keylock? I like to hear when I push or pull my record to match the phase. besides, for scratching, it kinda messes it up when you do scratches like cutting or simple releases, cause it doesnt sound as they should (cause theres som acceleration involved)

    • DjLiquitATL

      I prefer it off most the time just b/c I came from vinyl…it doesn’t sound right when you have the “digital” scratch with keylock. However, if I want to mix a track that is much slower at a faster tempop then keylock is a must…i.e…live remixes (vocals)

  • DJ S2

    i’m glad you added the last paragraph – that’s really the “key” (pun intended)

  • gowstpop

    Would love to see a key chart for traktor 2.6.2 from 1d to 1m ect.

    • https://soundcloud.com/robert_wulfman Robert Wulfman

      to convert from camelot to open key move up 5 positions and to do it the other way move down 5 positions. in camelot notation A minor is on 8 but in open key it is on 1.

  • ChaZ

    Finally some idea regarding Key, used to wonder to which Lock does it belong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cre8tivechristoval Christoval Gonzales

    Great article dan, Crazy to see the VDJ has such a strong feature set in this aspect. love the info, cheers!

    • Dan White

      VDJ’s key-related features have been this way for years now – still waiting on NI and Serato to make moves in this area. It’s possible that NI could make their key tags dynamic since there is now key detection built-in to track analysis!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theo-Bishop/643886953 Theo Bishop

        Rekord Box has a built in “mixed in key” but who wants to use that ?
        Crapy CDJ 2000 NEXUS with only 3 cue points and poorly constructed plastic body. Not me !

  • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

    awesome article. the camelot sysem is the way to to go.

    • Dan White

      Indeed – just remember to use it as a guideline, not as a rule :)

      • DJ S2

        +1

      • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

        without a doubt. we are still human :)

  • KIO

    When I’m mixing my Chill Out library, these tracks have a wide range of BPM (ranging from 60 to 120) and the way the songs phrases are build also differs much more than when I mix from my Electro library. Personally I find that a mix sounds much more awful when I mix two tracks with non-matching phrases, but matching harmonies then when I mix two tracks with non-matching harmonies, but matching phrases. What do other DJ’s choose to prevail, harmonies or phrases?

    KIO

    • http://www.facebook.com/damien.higdon Damien Higdon

      Well the point of the article is that now you can use your preferred phrase matching, then adjust the key/pitch to match. Best of both worlds.

      • KIO

        Well, the point of any article on this website is that every DJ should use Traktor. I don’t, I use ITCH/Serato DJ and do not intend to change. And as the article says Serato cannot change the key of a song. Therefore my original question still stands.

        • Roger-4bit

          Neither prevail. Phasing and harmonic mixing can be used in different situations. Hard rules don’t work, you have to adjust what you do based on the particular songs you are working with. As you’ve seen, the tricks you learned to work with your Electro sets don’t necessarily translate to your Downtempo set. Just like what works for my Downtempo sets might not work with the Downtemp tracks you are working with. You’re ears will let you know went you get it right though.

  • Jack

    Ableton?

    • MellonHead

      unless using a max4live device to emulate dj software, key adjustment is done on the sample edit panel for each clip. knob is marked “Transpose.” adjusts key and tempo for unwarped tracks, or just key if in any warp mode other than repitch.

      • http://www.facebook.com/WANGZOOM Maximillian Alexander

        If you’ve got the CPU for it, you could also build an effect rack that uses something like Waves Pitch VST to achieve the effect.

      • Tyler

        Pretty much comes down to going to the mouse to adjust the transpose unless you’ve got it MIDI mapped but I never liked how that worked.. it will only adjust the currently selected clip so it’s easy to accidentally adjust the pitch of something that you weren’t try to mess with

  • Marquee Mark

    whoa did not know that Virtual DJ key detected and auto updated, will have to give that a shot. also digging the advanced knob adjustment tips in traktor, will come in handy

    • Dan White

      Actually discovered the Traktor knob tips while writing this article – the control-click takeover is a really awesome easter egg!

      • http://www.facebook.com/rob.cifre Rob Bamboo Cifre

        That control click takeover tip is amazing.. never knew it existed.