• zzz

    so will you do a follow up now that they have released the software? I am seriously thinking of giving up on traktor

  • Benjamin Goulart

    BPM detection is broken. It’s not even designed for key detection? And the sound seems weird compared to V1.9- DD. That and the inability to recognize four identical transport controllers at once (MIDI glitches) leaves me wondering why I’d bother with DD over VDJ, which does everything except VST. And I can Rewire Traktor to anything else that supports VST (like Ableton) and get my fix there if I need. VDJ 8 will bring full VST support, improved sound routing (split in digital domain, me thinks) and on and on. Plenty of other stuff IL seems to also be losing on DD 2 compared to V1. Four decks is nice, but it’s a bad, glitchy Traktor Pro 2 clone now. With the utter failure that is Serato DJ (totally f—ing garbage coding), InMusic has so much chance to take over this market after buying M-Audio & Torq 2. That DVS is done except for the crummy sound. Improve the sound process/DSP engine and Torq’s practically already superior. Full routing. VST. 4 Deck. Great layout. Geez.

  • benjaminwg

    NO TRACK ANALYSIS. DUAL WAVEFORM VIEW IS GONE. MULTIPLE CONTROLLERS OF THE SAME TYPE CANNOT BE RECOGNIZED. CAN’T FIND OUT HOW TO ENABLE OR DISABLE AUTOGAIN. SOUND IS WEIRD AND COMPRESSED. They improved the VST system, expanded to 4 decks, but seem to have broken most everything else. Even the waveforms look crunched and useless now. And they still don’t allow you to disable the BPM display. I don’t know why they’d touch their autogain design from v1. It was perfect. I even liked the ability to use the gain knobs to adjust the PFL cue levels in the headphones when it was on.

    I still think Torq 2 has the best potential. It just needs its sound improved.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Reticuli Benjamin Goulart

    Couldn’t get it to map 3 of my 4 transport controllers in the trial of v2.

  • Evan Moore

    Does this software work with Traktor Products?

    • MellonHead

      kinda. you can map midi, but none of your leds will light up.

  • Guest

    Does this software work with Traktor products?

  • Guest

    Does this software work with Traktor products? If so

  • http://twitter.com/WPHead WPHead

    Trekator! :P

  • http://twitter.com/treefitty Markkus Rovito
  • Louis OConnor
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

    Did anyone else flip out over the low requirements for system specifications? I’m working with a MacBook Pro OSX 10.6.8 and just got left behind when Traktor decided to update, it was a System 10.7 required update. This program does more with less… oh, Also… Deckadance has a spectral analyzer for each deck AND vertical track display in the center area.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.burn.5283 Jimmy Burn

      yeah im still running osx 10.5.8 so cant update traktor or ableton, noce to see the low specs with deckadence

  • Anonymous

    Does Deckadance 2 have Traktor-like fixed gridding or Serato-like flexi gridding?

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.hart.39750 John Hart
  • http://www.facebook.com/john.hart.39750 John Hart

    Wow Itd be nice to voice my opinion if the download links actually worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

      Try again, they actually work now.

  • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

    some good ideas……but a horrible program.

  • pixelbreak

    isolator FX FTW…This is something I would like to see in Traktor with the addition of VST plugins

  • Anonymous

    Deckadance 2 isolated effects demo…

    I’m hoping to have a better video up soon, but I have had difficulties getting my main controller mapped. In fact, the Behringer controller is the only one I have been able to map any way I want.

  • blah

    really no more room for another dj tool… the bases are covered with better tools… 64 bit.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

      I agree about the DJ software… but this isn’t just a DJ tool, it pushes boldly into Controllerism territory and also does some really nice re-thinks of how to handle DJing.

  • MellonHead

    i’ve been messing with this program for a week or two, vst plays very nicely with ableton. i’ve made a script for apc40 that halves the red box, freeing up a 4×5 matrix and 4 faders for deckadance and leaving the rest for ableton. stays right in sync as long as you start on a downbeat, take that trackleton! the only thing keeping me from doing more with it is the lack of mappable led feedback for anything but the limited range of controllers. lighting up the buttons in different colors is a must for me, as well as having feedback on which deck is playing via flashing green button.

    • MellonHead

      after further searching image line’s forums, it appears the main developer (l.s.d.) has been promising bi-directional midi mapping since 2010. on the other hand, the other forum mods only respond to requests for advanced mapping with “you can map any midi controller, please see instruction link here,” which brings one to an input-only mapping page. either only 1 member of the team understands the concept of and need for bi-directional communication, or they just don’t care. makes one wonder what exclusivity deals image line-has made with the hardware they do support. sigh.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

        Yeah, I miss bi-directional MIDI control, I know someone who could solve this problem. Leap (Loop but not losing time with the song) is a really nice function and while I really liked the “map-as-you-want attitude” of the program, I failed to get the jog function to work (even though the little arrows showed up white) for my Novation Twitch. Granted, this controller uses a touchstrip, but you would figure Image-Line would have thought about this kind of interface because other controllers use a touch strip for “needle search.” Anyway, the Twitch uses the touchstrip for loop pinching as well as jogging (Decadance is supposed to excel at doing two things at once). I would be very happy to buy this software if the touchstrip control would work for me. I’m also not very happy with having to use the propeller key as a shift function… it’s non-standard. Maybe I’ll assign the propeller key to my shift button if the program will allow me?

        • mellonhead

          i’ve been thinking of setting up osculator to light leds on the apc40, but am still a beginner at osc routing. maybe image-line will add support for the controller by the time i figure that one out. you know someone who can solve the problem?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

            I really hope they add bi-directional MIDI signaling. I do have a friend who works in this capacity but I can’t say anything as I don’t want to ruin his negotiations. Let’s hope he gets hired at Image-Line, because he already has solutions for these things.

          • dtdollarsign

            IL commented on a launchpad demonstration video that they would be adding light feedback in a future update :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

      I wonder if you can route all the Deckadace MIDI controls from Ableton? I know Ableton has MIDI sends and that might just be an interesting work-around. My problem is trying to get the Touchstrips on my Twitch to function properly and some kind of logic out of the File Tree navigation. Has anyone else run into “one file being highlighted, but completely different file ends up being loaded when you press the load deck button?”

  • type_omega

    im very much liking the look of the center part of the GUI being able to quick tab through all the parameters including transports, FX, and vertical wave forms is a genius idea.if they work out all the bugs they might just draw a crowd. Traktor better step up there game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

    I’ve been using Deckadance 2 Beta for about 2 weeks and I’ll agree that it’s not ready to be relied on, it has some features that are really called for, especially the VST plug-ins, ReLooper (which is a weird fusion of effects to loops at specific time slices), automation (you want automated scratching, you got it), and ease of incorporating other controllers (this includes drum machines, and keyboards). I am really looking forward to the full release and I’m curious how they’re going to work FL Studio into this mix (because it’s business, that’s why).

    • http://twitter.com/treefitty Markkus Rovito

      Geez, egg on my face for missing the system requirements. They weren’t in the beta documentation that we had, so I dropped the ball a bit there. I will update the post to include them. Props again!

      • antifmradio

        Looks like they are already done with BETA and have released the full 2.0 as of this morning http://bit.ly/Ys37Oh

    • blah

      VSTs and 3rd party plugins also supply latency and may require delay compensation.

    • whomprat

      ipad ! YES traktor on ipad is so awesome! whomp whomp whomp

    • Louis OConnor

      Please chek out my podcast and tell me if you enjoy it :)

  • http://twitter.com/PanPanmusic Pan Pan

    I think this is a stepping stone for pushing the live performance. The VST feature can really bring digital instrument into live sets. Can’t wait for the release of this

  • KIO

    Two questions:

    1) ITCH/SDJ count the first downbeat of the first bar as 1, not as 0. Therefore I have to count my phrases in the table of n*16+1, which sucks. If they would start counting the first downbeat as 0 then phrase two starts at downbeat 16, phrase 3 at downbeat 32, which would make a LOT more sense. Does Deckadance start counting at 1 or are these guys smart and start counting at 0?

    2) ITCH/SDJ don’t show cover art for any other file than mp3. MediaMonkey though simply shows the cover art for every track no matter which file format since it links to the location of the cover art file and does not look only to embedded cover at pictures (FLAC does not embed cover art) What about Deckadance?

    • http://twitter.com/treefitty Markkus Rovito

      Good questions, KIO. Answers:

      1) Sorry, it starts the count at 1, not 0.

      2) More bad news for you here, I’m afraid. It’s showing cover art for MP3 and M4A, where the art is embedded, but not for FLAC.

    • Dan White

      Interesting perspective you have on counting beats. Most musicians count with one on the first beat – one and two and three and four.

    • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

      no one counts 0 as a beat. That would mean that a 4 bar measure would be beat 0-3??!?!?! I dont think so.

      I have been playing drums / percussion for over 15 years…..NO ONE starts a beat on 0. again……NO ONE USES ZERO AS A BEAT.

      Sight? Seen!

    • KIO

      Rant alert:

      Surely if I count beats for beatmatching, I count 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, like anyone else. However, at the start of beat 1, 0 bar of the song have played, at beat two, still only one quarter of a bar has played. A full bar has only played after four whole beats have finished. So since ITCH/SDJ number bars, not beats, to me it makes no sense to start at 1 instead of 0.

      If I measure the length of an object and would take the reasoning mentioned above my tape measure would start at 1. Then after travelling ten millimetres along my tape measure it would indicate that I have measure 2 cm, when in fact I have only measured 1 cm. For that reason tape measures and anything else that measures start at 0, not at 1.

      This is entirely analogous to counting bars. First I need to measure four beats before I have one bar, therefore DJ softwares should indicate the first down beat marker as 0, making each phrase start at easily recognisable numbers like 16, 32, 80, 144, 160 and n*16 instead of 1, 17, 33, 81, 145, 161 and n*16+1. This error of DJ software annoys me even more if a track opens with a full 16 bar phrase without any beat at all. Then I choose to set the first downbeat marker at the first beat of the second phrase, making the song start at bar -16. Then the negative bars go from -1 directly to 1 without going through zero, which makes no sense at all.

      In the end I really wonder why software engineers decided to start counting at 1 and, worse, even omit zero. You’d think that software engineers would love 0 just as much as they love 1, wouldn’t you?

      End rant

      KIO

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Konstantin-Romanov/100002935602669 Konstantin Romanov

    LOL. Gross Beat is match older then “automation tool that BentoSan released over a year ago” ))

    • David De Garie-Lamanque

      true. also this curve automation function was present from version 5 or 6 of FL Studio in some of the plug-ins

    • Dan White

      Indeed. I simply was suggesting that it was familiar to our core readers because of this tool – I’ve adjusted wording to make it sound less like anyone did anything nefarious :D

  • Rudi-J

    “…However, now Deckadance 2 can be yet another disruptive DJ software, such as MixVibes Cross, to give you interesting alternatives and to keep the top dogs on their toes….”

    –> Let’s hope so. This looks really cool and comprehensive. Still waiting for those kind of innovatiions to appear inTraktor…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

      I’d like to clarify something in the article. If you sign-up (this is what they mean by register, not have a previous version of the software), you can download the Beta for free.

      • http://twitter.com/treefitty Markkus Rovito

        Thanks Ronald! We were under the impression that you had to be a previous owner, so thanks again for looking into it.