• jds1

    fully editable and assignable Touch Vibration is required to take this to the next level and bridge the gap between physical/digital worlds. we need to press apple for this feature to be added.

  • Whos_Pablo

    What would you guys say is the best template for controlling just the effects…. or say to use it in combination with the S4?

  • http://www.facebook.com/azeibekis Antonis Zeibekis

    Can we use it for nexus 7 ? Is anything similar for android tablets?

    • http://nutation.net/ rseymour

      There is now TouchOSC for android I think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.moczygemba.9 Jeremy Moczygemba

    Compared to the equipment that is engineerd for music use, I would not suggest this. Fancy tool this is, buuuut i happen to recall a vci-400 special edition and a bunch of other cool hardwear. Plus I’m not going to pay to watch a show of some chum finger banging his tablet….thats just tacky. Yes I understand everythings digital, but it’s being mastered via midi controlers. I think the tablet would just ruin the image of DJ’ng. The laptop etempt failed, and I think this will soon…hopefully…*vomets a little*

  • Softcore

    Here’s another Lemur template for Traktorheads – quite popular in the Lemur forums! ;)

    http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/351/

    • http://twitter.com/aoterou alfredo otero

      that one’s actually a million times better than mashy, and thanks to your comment I just realized it was recently updated, thanks!

  • ciconte

    do you know if the Mashy template will work with an actual lemur?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=530718492 Pablo ‘Charlie’ Rodriguez

    if you guys thing this software is awesome… what about a fully total custum, like you make costum, to Ableton, Reason or traktor…

    a friend of mine wrote this program, and is way better then Lemur

    • Softcore

      Does it have physics engine? Does it have scripting? Can you create inter-modulations of the objects? Please leave the ‘way better than Lemur’ comments aside if you don’t know what you are talking about….

  • Drew

    the prepare slot of this mapping always ends up bugged, i have to reconnect it with lemur editor every time….anyone know whats going on?

  • http://www.facebook.com/JoshuaCarlHall Joshua Carl Hall

    Yes, this program is also great for Mix Emergency. Some fellas put me on to it a few months back and i have it on an Ipad Mini. Using it soley for non-timing event (in video theres alot of effect sequencer, transition and effects that can be greatly controlled by this)

    but as mentioned the connection is a bit tricky, just look at the Liine help forums before you go out with it, in Ios6.01 you pretty much HAVE to do a static private network and assign the variables… where as a stong wifi or using your Iphone as a hotspot work pretty damn skippy… the daemon likes to just quit once in a while too, and not tell you.

    but other than those little hiccups its an amazing piece of gear, replaced my X1. but i would never use it for things that require 0 latency and such. you can see here how I use it: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/406610_10151156784156372_131497255_n.jpg

  • Naren

    I just ordered my Midi Fighter Spectra. It would be splendid if I could finally adequately incorporate my iPad into my setup with Lemur, as my main tools for DJing are my iPad, computer, and in the near-future, the Midi Fighter Spectra. Thanks for doing this amazing give away DJ TechTools, as many people must be in the same situation as I am.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137292039 Ronald Edwards

    I’ve tried a lot of these touch interfaces (because I like making things my way) but I can’t recommend anything “touch” until it becomes “touchable” without having to look at it… remember: Serato Face… yeah, that… only more-so when you’re using touch screens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=782115386 Ewan Matheson

    Had a play with Lemur alongside an S4 – Lemur was hooked up to Ableton which was in channel 4 of the S4 with a synth and drum sequencer… I have never had so much fun djing in my life…

  • http://www.facebook.com/alisan.cavdarli Alisan Cavdarli

    I’m not a real fan of Touch screens for dj-ing or controllerism :/

    I need to feel the buttons and knobs :p

  • Dimitris Psirras

    is there a similar app for the android tablets? i own a nexus 7…

    • http://www.facebook.com/djrickdawson Rick Dawson

      OSCPad, which has an online editor for layouts. or TouchOSC

  • Bruiser Smith

    My thoughts on this setup: Great for basic controls & effects
    buttons, but not as good as dedicated hardware such as MIDI Fighters and
    knobs/encoders. Although there is little to no lag, the detection of
    touch for the Ipad is not quick enough for advance controllerism
    routines.

    IF YOU WANT A WIRED CONNECTION

    The wireless connections have always been my main beef, as they are not 100% reliable, a huge issue especially if you’re dj’ing live. I’ve been using this setup for a year now using instructions from when I had TouchOSC as my main interface. If you have a jailbroken Ipad, you can use a program called MyWi to establish MIDI over a wired USB connection between the Lemur App/Ipad into Traktor. These instructions are only for Mac, sorry.

    1. Jailbreak Ipad (if not done)
    2. Download MyWi from Cydia ($20, but worth it IMHO – you only buy it once and can use it for actual tethering on your Iphone too)
    3. Plug Ipad into computer via standard USB to 30 pin cord (IDK if this works over Lightning connectors, but I assume so)
    4. Close all open apps on your Ipad. Open MyWi App, turn USB connection to ‘On’. A little blue bar will drop down from the top screen showing that there is a connection. If not, close the app completely and try again. It can be a little finicky.
    5. On your Mac, open Utilities > Audio Midi Setup
    6. Double-click on ‘Network’
    7. In the pop-up Midi Session window, your Ipad should show up under ‘Directory’ with a green dot next to it. Double-click it to establish MIDI connection.
    8. Open Lemur app on the Ipad. Tap the settings cog in the upper right corner. Under the list of templates, select the one that you want. Double check that both the From and To MIDI Targets read “Ipad Name: Session 1″. If not, select the box, and a drop down will appear where you can select this.
    9. Open Traktor and test some of your buttons to see if Traktor is at least detecting MIDI.
    10. In Traktor, open Preferences > Controller Manager. If you have already imported a template/TSI combo, select it. Under the In/Out Port drop-down menus, select ‘Session 1′
    11. This should do it – play around with your control surface to see if everything is working correctly. With this setup you shouldn’t have to use Liine’s Lemur Daemon program to interpret signals (although it’s good to have in case of emergency).

    • Mario García

      You don’t need jailbroken your ipad to send wired midi communication through the ipad and a mac or pc, you just need a cck and a usb midi cable

  • Dan

    Having trouble finding out how I do this “In-Port to Daemon Input 0, and Out-Port set to Daemon Output 0.” Any help guys?

    • Dan

      Never mind.. Just me being a noob. If anyone else have trouble understanding that last sentence, it’s within Lemur settings :)

  • prevolt

    As a Lemur user since ’06, here’s one HUGE note about trying to DJ with it–
    Don’t ever use it for volume control.
    Leave that to real faders.
    Trust.

    • rafiq

      Just a heads up, and you may already be aware of this…but for those who aren’t: One feature that can save you a lot of headache and anguish is the “cap only” option in the Lemur editor.

      This means the fader will only respond if you touch it directly on the fader “cap” onscreen and drag that. Sliding your fingers over it or touching anywhere else on the fader will do nothing. This insures no mishaps by accidentally touching something or accidental large fader jumps and is one significant ace Lemur has over TouchOSC, making it more suitable for live use. “relative” option in TouchOSC is almost as good. With that said, real faders and touch faders both have their places :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/outershpongolia Tyler Thompson

        oh nice! this will definitely be helpful in the future, thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/YuppieMike mike blakely

    Good Article. I am very interested in the hardwired midi option, but it seems jankey, lacking of tutorials, and expensive. Anything show up at NAMM that is gig-solid and makes life easier?

  • Dan

    Just plain awesome! Finally an article that gives an easy in depth description for this great app! Good job DJTT

  • http://www.facebook.com/VicioussHoff Viciouss Hoffmann

    Dan, you could have linked to the original blog where the mashy were developed in April 2012:
    http://digitaldjtools.net/

    http://digitaldjtools.net/news/mashy-for-lemur-update/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1063503197 Alexey Popoff

    Great article! For those who are interested, check out my latest Lemur template designed to control FX units in Traktor: http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/333/

  • http://www.facebook.com/ReiGBorD Reigbord Subzombie

    i hope that something similar comes to android and windows users (because we need something similar at lemur editor)
    meanwhile we have the “Droid Fighter for Android and Apple devices” (thanks beaubryte) that works perfect https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/671

  • http://nutation.net/ rseymour

    Has anyone used Lemur with a Bluetooth Personal Area Network (PAN). I have had success with TouchOSC over bluetooth (it still uses IP addresses, but it seems to connect using UDP which leads to low latency but it can drop the very first hit you send if you let it sit for a while)

    I’m holding back on buying Lemur since it says everywhere to turn off bluetooth. I have a feeling it would work though. Note, this is on the latest macbook air which has bluetooth 4.0, hooked to an iPad. The nice thing is you can leave wifi on on your laptop so you don’t have to lose the web to use touchOSC.

    • http://nutation.net/ rseymour

      Coming back to answer my own question. Lemur definitely works over a pure Bluetooh PAN network under mountain lion. It’s as low latency as I’ve seen with any app. More responsive than TouchOSC as well. The lemur daemon treats the PAN as any other network.

      Hit me up if you have any questions on how to do it. The side benefit is no Ad hoc network to take down if you want to go wireless, you can still charge your iPad since you don’t need the CCK. and also you save that USB port if you were going to hardwire.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.moczygemba.9 Jeremy Moczygemba

        if people know it runs on bluetooth then it’ll just take one hacker to ruin a live show….or somebody with a smart phone

        • http://nutation.net/ rseymour

          You have to pair the iPad and the computer, which is some level of security at least.

  • http://twitter.com/Kamaramusic Kamara music

    We start using this last year and its great !

    • http://www.facebook.com/alisan.cavdarli Alisan Cavdarli

      nice :) but what’s that big thing in the left corner? :O

      • http://www.facebook.com/outershpongolia Tyler Thompson

        Handsonic

  • Deksel

    Love both TouchOsC & Lemur. I don’t have an iPad yet, but sofar I’ve used it for different reasons on my iPhone, of which mapping for the Remix decks was the coolest part.
    I haven’t jumped into the physics engine. What would you use it for and how?

  • http://twitter.com/RockRooted Chris Dowdy

    This has been a great app so far. Especially with the in app editor. It’s very useful as a bridge between my needs in a controller and what I want from a dedicated controller. Then add in the physics engine and take everything on step further. Hopefully Ill have my newest mapping finished soon and will post it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rruel Ryan Ruel

    The Lemur app is wonderful and extremely powerful. It’s of course more money than TouchOSC, but the feature set is so much more rich, and the editor on your PC/Mac is fantastic. Don’t be fooled by the similar appearance.

  • DJ Danny J

    ive been playing with the Lemur app for nearly a year now, i still control Traktor with my VCI-400EGE but using the Mu Template for Ableton live is mind blowing. The way it adds clips in real time and you can have full “off keyboard” control is defiantly the best way to use Lemur and an ipad. Im buzzing for the release of Livecontrol 2 that will be a free lemur overal of the original (and limited) Touch OSC app. Long live multi touch, its the way forward.

  • CKsoundmachine

    I’ve got some problems with creating an Ad-Hoc wifi network in the latest iOSX release. The Ipad mini just won’t connect to it.

    • DJ Danny J

      yeah i’ve had issues with this as well on the ipad 2 and 3. If i use the pad out i always connect with the camera connection kit. Faster and avoids connection issues. Saying that i’m still a bit nervous using it out so I stick to a hardware controller, but in the home studio with standard wifi its fine

    • rafiq

      Did it work before that release? Try creating an ad-hoc network with a different name and without a password and/or try to have your iPad forget the first one before trying to connect it again.. sometimes helps. From personal experience, using Lemur over ad-hoc wifi is very stable and I’ve had no issues using it for long periods of time…I would trust it live. Latency is the only issue I’ve run into, but you can adjust for it while connecting in Audio Midi Setup. For the more conservative, a camera connection kit or something like an iRig are definitely the way to go.

      • CKsoundmachine

        It’s a brand new Ipad mini. Tried different configurations, nothing works. I think an Irig midi connection kit is the way to go for me. :-)

    • Matías J. Padilla

      You need to set a static IP, it’s a problem introduced with the latest versions of iOS

      • CKsoundmachine

        A static IP doesn’t work either. The iPad get’s connected the ad hoc network but it still doesn’t works. I think I’ve bought me a crappy app :-/

  • Guest

    Awesome mapping Winston Ray put together here, easily the best Lemur template I’ve seen for full control of Traktor.

    For those interested: Last week I posted a Lemur/Traktor template which emulates and builds upon the Beat Slicer feature of the DJM-2000 nexus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UDAaHNQu8)…with a few extra features as well.

    I’ll be posting a video at some point demonstrating it.

    Manual Here
    http://db.tt/LQVviVce

    Mapping Here:
    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/1120

    • Spacecamp

      Mapping is not by Winston, FYI. Andrew Norris, the original uploader, is credited above!

      • rafiq

        ahh ok, my bad. I had seen the name Winston associated with it in several places and mistook that to be the author. Thanks for clarifying :)