• Hugh

    if this controller’s so great why doesn’t Hawtin use it himself?!

  • 3DoubleD

    Something like this with atleast 1 a Xone style Jog wheel would be sweet for traktor use just so you could stroll shit nice

  • Erik Mitchell

    WAY too expensive

  • Morten Agnor

    As far as I’m concerned this device lacks on very important feature… THE JOG WHEELS! For finetuning points and bend the speed. How come nobody has commented on this before?

    YES, I use sync and warp and Traktor and stuff, but sometimes, a few times during a DJ-set I find that the markers are out of touch, and need som manual fine tuning, or that a cue point needs to be manually owerwritten for that special punch in. With only buttons and faders… (need I say more)

    It also lacks a crossfader, but that is not that important. What I really like about it is the possibility to assign multiple effekts and multiple faders for things like filter etc, would like to try one, but as others have commented, the price is not right…

  • RonMexico

    Don’t judge a “hands-on” controller with out putting your hands on it.  Seems pricey but honestly I’d rather pay the extra money and be able to speak the same language as the person who made it.  Livid instruments are boutique, just like API consoles and lunch boxes, handmade and built to order….but not made for everyone  

  • http://www.facebook.com/misterkissmusic Steph

    I bought this controller and created a custom traktor mapping for it. I absolutely love it. I do a lot of 4 deck mixing so no need for a crossfader I always use volume faders. Endless possibilities. Love how it is not designed for a specific software in mind. Perfect!

    • Joshua

      awesome live remix bro! i think I’m gonna have to get one for myself :)

  • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

    NI makes controllers at 1/2 the price.
    ableton mabie…..but too boutique for the standard user. I like to play music….not midi map for 16 hours.

    i can see richie and only richie using this.

  • bundled soundcards can shut up

    honestly, fuck soundcards being bundled into controllers. get a soundcard. get a controller. they shouldn’t be the same package or expected to

  • DJ ForcedHand

    A missing sound card, cross fader and no default mapping printed on the surface AND it’s $699 ?!?! I think this is a bit much noting the rest of the field of controllers. Let’s compare this to;

    * An APC 40 which has the same number of up-faders (plus a Master), 8 fewer buttons and 20 fewer knobs, but it also comes with a sound card, a cross fader AND Ableton Live Akai Professional APC Edition for $299. You’re already looking at something that’s rivaling the cost of the CNTRL_R (with better integration) for a lot less. You might consider adding the following devices to flesh out your stage gear.

    * A Behringer BCR2000 (which has 24 knobs of it’s own) to come up with 4 more knobs than the 36 knobs on the CNTRL_R
    for $179. Yes, the APC 40 doesn’t have RGB LEDs, but is that worth the $221 difference? * A MIDI Fighter 3D will get you an additional 16 RGB colored buttons (with obscene amounts of twist and turn (the box) control at $249.*OR* If you’re looking to add velocity sensitivity and an x-y pad to a 12 button, full color control, you’ll want a Vestax Pad-One: for around $130 (Buying the APC 40,

    Behringer BCR2000 and Pad_one is still less than the price of the CNTRL_R).Combined Price: APC 40 and BCR2000: $299 + $179 = $478APC 40, BCR2000 and MF3D: $299 + $179 + $249 = $727
    APC 40, BCR2000 and Pad-One: $299 + $179 + $130 = $608Any way you look at this, the CNTRL_R is overpriced for what you get out of it, with fewer features than a comparable set up, you’re still going to have to get a sound card for the CNTRL_R.

    • Methodamericon

      Could you show me where the soundcard is in my APC40? I’ve had it a couple years now, and just can’t find it. Am I doing this wrong?! Did I break it?! /s

      • DJ ForcedHand

        You are correct, the APC 40 does not have a sound card. I made an error in my response. I am hoping that the comments section one day will have an edit button.

    • Peter

       But its still APC and Behringer… ;)

    • Dubsquidselekta

      LOL,
      Are you joking? You are comparing a quality handmade unit manufactured by craftsmen to mass produced crap made by the equivalent to Asian slave labor. And, the CNTR-R has step sequencer capabilities. AND, the layout; at least to me, makes a hell of a lot more sense than either of the units you listed. I passed on the APC due to the layout. I had one of the Behringer 2000, what f-in junk; I sold it for $50 (quite the loss). I’d be willing to bet the resale on one of these is also better than either of the units you listed. If I ever find myself not so strapped on cash, I’ll be upgrading to a Livid unit.

      • DJ ForcedHand

        My personal choices have been the Novation Twitch (which is a steal at $399). When used in Ableton Live, it has more colored trigger buttons than the LIVIR CNTRL_R. The Twitch is an amazing tool but it just doesn’t have as many knobs, buttons or sliders as I’d like to use for remixing, so I got a ReMOTE 25 SL MkII (for $350) which came with the X-Y pad, a pitch-mod stick, 8 limitless knobs (with LED indicators), 8 limited knobs, 8 velocity sensitive pads, 8 up-faders and 25 keys. All the controls are touch-triggered and have 4 pages of assignable controls. So, much like my Twitch, all I had to do was touch a button to have a LOT more options.

        Combined, that was around $750… $51 more dollars than the CNTRL_R.

        If you’re going to use *JUST* Ableton Live Intro, the ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2 and Twitch, come with a sound card (Twitch), 10 up-faders (8 on the ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2, 2 on the Twitch), 68 knobs (64 on the ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2 the 4 on the Twitch, 10 more on the Twitch if you want to reassign the EQ envelope knobs), 64 2-color LED buttons (Twitch), 8 Velocity Sensitive pads (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), a bunch of transport and assign buttons (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), 25 Piano Keys (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), an X-Y pad (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), Pitch-Mod Stick (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), Named controls (ReMOTE 25 SL Mk2), the 2 touch strips (Twitch), Ableton Live Intro, Automap and Live Twitch Tool (for ease of mapping). Sure, it has a larger footprint than the CNTRL_R and they’re 2 separate units, but I’d say it’s worth it for all you get out of it… and if you want to DJ, the Twitch comes with the Pro DJ software ITCH. This is without adding the SHIFT function keys or the fact that you can DOUBLE the number of up-faders, or buttons on the Twitch when using Traktor Pro.
        Alternatively, you could get the ReMOTE Zero (in addition to the Twitch) which adds a(nother) cross fader and deletes; the keys, the pitch-mod stick and X-Y pad for $199. That combined package would be around $600… you could still buy “Traktor Pro” and still be under the CNTRL_R’s price, with many more options.

    • Simen Øvergaard

      Good points but there is no soundcard in the APC40. :)

  • Padi_04

    I think it’s perfectly fine that they didn’t include a soundcard. Not everyone has the same I/O needs and having it sitting in there with no use for the ones that don’t need one doesn’t make any sense either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dtylka Dave A Tylka

    Does it work with Reason???

    • Methodamericon

      “…midi…” 

      Yes.

    • Joey

      yes, you can map everything on the CNTRL_R to Reason :) 

  • http://twitter.com/Grant_Reynolds Grant Reynolds

    i havet seen a dance dj use a crossfader in years, its kinda frowned appon these days for some reason.. so that really shouldn’t be a concern.. and i dont think this would be a good tool for rnb djs..   

    • Nosferatu

       ”kinda frowned appon”

      and you don’t want to upset the Jedi DJ council now do you?

      hahahaha… I’ve learned never to frown upon any DJ’s rig as long as he/she can rock the house.

      Can we please do away with these fictitious rules of how a DJ should be?

      • DJ RB0t

        AMEN BROTHER

  • Stewe

    This controller is begging for sick Traktor mapping. So much potential!

  • JuanSOLO

    I dont mind the absence of a soundcard,
    but for the price and intent on drums, the 4×4 matrix should be drum pads. 

    damn shame.

  • Peter

    Wouldve been great with a soundcard…

  • http://twitter.com/DJPeterLo DJ Peter Lo

    No sound-card with this device? 

    • Patrickwdoyle

      If you are in the target market for this product, you can rely on a Pioneer 850 or 900 in booth so there is no reason to lug your own interface.  Also, you probably have a studio set up with racks, etc and aren’t about to take any of that too a club.

      • Joey

        yup, it’s only a midi controller :)

  • Parkaust

    I keep expecting to see new blog posts that are tutorials or ean showing us the midifighter in some way but all we get are reviews? Come on step it up a little

    • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

      I was supposed to post a basic controllerism tutorial today but it got moved to wed instead due to a hectic weekend. 

      • Devon

        Ean, your guys’ content is awesome. Keep it up!

        >>only complaint is I want more! (I know how expensive original content is though..!)

        • Anonymous

          How about letting users also write up blogs and the best ones getting posted? Or even a new area on DJTT, where people who intend to write good product reviews, experiences about their  dj’ing, or any other DJ related blog can be shared? ;)

          scamo

          • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

            I am 10000% percent on board with this if there is a way to do it REALLY well. We must maintain the quality 

      • Parkaust

        Sorry ean. Didn’t mean to be a douche. I take you back. You guys are way awesome

    • Alishaferaz

       satisfaction guaranteed or your money back