• dunce

    I’m still trying to figure it out, but anyway, this is how I went with a NI Audio 4 DJ soundcard, a run of the mill cheap guitar amp with built in distortion, and a Behringer VMX300 mixer. I also wanted to make it so I could control the amount of distortion, and switch back to the normal sounds with a slider.

    physical soundcard routing:
    audio 4′s channel A output labelled mixer line in goes into a channel on the mixer
    audio 4′s channel A output labelled mixer TT/CD into a second channel on the mixer
    audio 4′s channel B output labelled mixer line in goes into guitar amp
    guitar amp output to audio 4′s channel A input labelled player TT/CD

    ableton:
    midi instrument set to output: ext 1/2
    distortion track input: ext in 1/2, and output: 3/4 with the monitor set to in
    return track audio to output 3/4

    midi maps:
    slider mapped to send A on instrument rack (for a wet/dry distortion mix from 100% clean to equal levels clean:distortion, to get a fully distorted mix, just drop the levels of the clean channel on the mixer)
    slider mapped to volume fader on distortion track (for feedback amount)
    slider mapped to freq knob of EQ 8 on distortion track (feedback pitch)

    most of this is just like the video, with a few exceptions. if i route the audio from the instrument rack into the pedal/amp, then back into the distortion track which outputs to master and with send going to the pedal/amp, for some reason i dont get the feedback loop when i play with the send, even though its the exact same idea behind in/out routing loop. its a bit of a drawback using up a whole channel on the mixer just for being able to wet/dry the effect, but it’s still so much fun. this sounds much wilder than the distortion effects in ableton or even on a mini kaoss pad 2. Mad props for another Mad tute!

    • dunceosaurousrexitronomatic

      update: scratch all that. i mapped a slider to the distortion volume to turn it on and off and changed the instrument output to master with the send on full.

  • Millertone

    Hey Mad Zach, What distortion pedal are you using?

    Matt

  • stride9

    Wow, I’ve been wanting to make this effect for a while now but lack the equipment. Is there ANY way to achieve this or something similar all within Ableton and without an external audio interface and/or pedal? Something even remotely similar would be much appreciated! 

  • http://twitter.com/bosskite Boss Kite

    Very, very cool.  

  • http://twitter.com/anzyM_ anzyM

    Really good idea ! I’m also using guitar pedals in ableton live, especially my DD3 delay plugged in a send track ’cause when you fiddle with the delay timing you have some interesting pitch fx and no clics :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/connoririas Connor Irias

    “shred like a beast.” oh yeah

  • mr nice

    MAD clever!

  • Lauti

    i don’t think its such a different setup from regular external FX setups…but it does sound awesome

  • johndoe

    im using a boss super overdrive, behringer u-control uca202 interface and a novation zero slk mk II and this doesnt seem to be working for me is there any chance of getting some advice? 
    [john doe]

  • Steve

    Slightly noob question, can you use a Traktor S4 for this as the audio interface?

    • Rutger Willems

      Yes you can!

  • JuanSOLO

    hmm, routing 1 pedal on a send/return to a laptop.

    Then there’s this guy http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/093c0bb7d139c9761d0e1fa08fc8c598/l.jpg
    Routes countless pedals into a series of about 9 amps. 

    I’m always amazed by DJ culture being so ahead of times, and so far behind the times all at once.

    • subfiend

      don’t be stupid your wearing a starwars suit…..theres nothing initiative about rigging up loads of pedals with guitars and amps,its been done loads of times,i don’t see anywhere him saying this is new and im the first to do this do you? and thats not dj culture also by the way….do you see,decks? cdj’s? i don’t…so if you have nothing good to say….go play with your starwars toys Hansolo..!

  • http://ax11.myopenid.com/ Tom

    Well, I’ve been using a Boss BFl2 (analog phaser) wired through one of the in/out pairs of an ADAT interface for getting hihats “alive” and an Aphex “Type C” Exciter with “Fat Bottom” in line with an Alesis Limiter/Compressor at two seperate pairs, so I can send Ableton’s rhythm section through the Exciter/Compressor chain and back into the master channel. The feedback loop is quite nice – I tried it with a Sure SM65 and a Peavey Backstage Plus guitar amp (which has hell of a feedback on the “Overdrive” channel) intstead of the stomp box. Since the peavey has its own reverb effect and there also is some amount of room acoustics captured by the mike, the feedback is quite impressive. Just a little loud, maybe… 

  • http://www.facebook.com/dj.link2u Dijay Link To U

    Realy Mad. Great work !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/santiagoparamo Santiago Paramo

    Very inspiring man. Thanks for sharing it!

  • Chance

    REally nice, thanks!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jared.baca1 Jared Baca

    Im a fan of the Boss series, used them throughout my guitar playing days, always sounded “clean” but amazing.

  • HT

    to use this in conjunction with traktor, you would still need ableton :P — look up the tutorial on here on how to sync ableton and traktor, and set the audio routing in traktor to go into 4 decks in ableton, and from there you can follow this tutorial. 
    I play with traktor into ableton and use live instruments on top of mixing tracks.. this is great to put on my bass! Great article, thank you!

  • Twig

    Best article on DJTT for ages ! Great work dude …

  • Jabbajams

    I really like your article but do you have any further suggestion for pedals.  The one you suggested was discontinued.  Keep up the great work the sound is awesome.

  • djskratchworx19

    yeah can you do this is Traktor????

    • (JSM)

      as far as I am aware it’s not possible to do it in TSP, due to the limitations of routing, hence the tongue in cheek reply below.

      • http://twitter.com/WooDzMuzik Anthony Woodruffe

        Except Traktor has Distortion and I’m sure mixed with Reverb you could likely get something very similar.

        • (JSM)

          nothing like it in Traktor, I’ve tried all combinations.

    • RockingClub

      This should be possible in Traktor for sure!
       But with doing this you would lose one of Traktor’s 4 decks which then would need to serve as the live input from your external effect processor. If you didn’t want to dirstort your whole main output you would also have to route a dedicated deck (which contains the element that is meant to become distorted) to a second outpt of your audio interface.

  • (JSM)

    Now do it in Traktor  !            ;-)

    • http://ax11.myopenid.com/ Tom

      Should be pretty much the same. Just use record out or FX-send and one of the line-ins for the effect loop and assign the input/output volumes to a controller or a keystroke.

    • subfiend

      would be just the same….a midi controller is a midi controoler its up to you to learn it and map it accordingly

  • Elicio

    Nice Trick :)

  • Anonymous

    Ableton Live feedback without the external send-return: 

  • MrMeloD

    This.Is.AWESOME! I kind of want to buy a midi fighter just for this purpose lol

    • subfiend

      you dont need to…….any midi controller will do,unless you don’t have one,otherwise go for it :)