• Jamm

    I have a 62 and when playing the same track on both channels me right Side is much stronger than left! Any one knows anything about this! Holla @ me jammclubb.ent@gmail.com

  • billcosbyman

    can you elaborate some more on the build quality? I’ve yet to see one in the stores, but am curious about the plastic pots that I keep hearing about. I would think a mixer at this price point would have metal…

  • djdelite

    thanks for this decent review..im bout to scoop one up…

  • Inbituin
  • Jtyler101

    can traktor be used with this mixer?

    • http://www.facebook.com/warpnote Audun Notevarp Sandvold

       Yes, but no time code.

  • Saewerd

    Is it really an 11 inch mixer? Probably some evil scheme Rane is doing to sell cases in the future. 

  • Djkrayz

    This is the best effect on the mixer by far!!!! Unfortunately its hidden! but with the right keystrokes you can unlock it!!!

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/535539_10151453468840427_797200426_23563018_1739519855_n.jpg

    • Saewerd

      Hahah great! How do?

  • http://twitter.com/Lylax_Dubs Lylax

    is that a BFI bin from outerspace….??

    nope just rane.

  • JuanSOLO

    “Theoretically, you should be able to assign the second USB port to send/return VST effects from your laptop. At the moment you can’t plug two USB ports into one laptop – this confuses Serato Scratch Live since the USB soundcard is locked to the software. Perhaps Rane will come out with a fix for this, but for now the only way that you can get this working is with dual laptops.”
    Does this make since to anyone else?
    Theoretically wouldn’t you just use something like “Soundflower” for this?, or Ableton?

    • Djbarticus

      the mixer functions as a ASIO/CORE Audio Soundcard, until you open up Serato. you can’t use it as a soundcard, and a serato interface at the same time on the same computer.

      if you happend to have an extra computer then you can have 1 be the serato computer, and one do other things (like VST fx thru the usb fx send)

      kinda sucks, kinda makes me want another computer at the same time

      • proben

        That makes no sense; especially in the context of “the bridge,” wouldnt serato want to play nice with other programs?  A soundcard should be treated as a soundcard and ought to be accessible from other programs, no?

  • http://ax11.myopenid.com/ Tom

    Not cost effective? Compared to what?
    Quotation: “…at 48 kHz, 32-bit floating point”. AFAIK, there’s just no audio interface or digital mixer built on floating point architecture apart from this one. And, yes, it makes quite a difference in view of clipping and dynamics.

  • Justin

    For the same price here where I live you have the Xone DB4 or even the Pioneer DJM 900. That’s just a no brainer! How in the name of God can you pay $ 1,900 (!) for a 2 channel mixer??? Which comes with FX where even Traktor has better FX…

    • Djbarticus

      Rane mixers cost more because
      -they are made in America and not China (better labor conditions and wages)
      -they make Professional not Consumer gear, anything with RANE on it gets supported forever, there is a reason why most of the Pioneer mixers you see are new (they don’t make it to being old) talk to an old sound guy about how reliable the old Rane crossovers are.
      -Rane keep a back stock of old parts on mixers they haven’t made for years. also if you lose a fader knob they will send you out new knobs I offer to pay but they always just overnight them for free.

      $1999 is the MAP (minimum advertised price), i think the dealer cost is around $1500, you can find some dealers that will meet you in the middle if you ask nicely and do regular business with them.

      • DJFT

        Yep – and just to add to that a 61/62/56/57 are 100x more comfortable to scratch with… the 4 channel mixers that guy is talking about are super crapped if your trying to lay your hand down next to the fader…. there’s a damn good  reason RANE mixers dont have anything but a fader on toward the bottom of the face.

        but again we have a bunch of a bedroom DJ’s commenting on how crappy the best mixers ever made are.

      • Anonymous

        I wouldn’t exactly put Pioneer, but especially not A&H, in the consumer gear category instead of the professional category, especially on a site where the $500 controller is a mainstay.  You like Rane, fare enough, but because you like Rane doesn’t make the other professional mixers bad quality.  The article even states that there are issues with breakage on the 57′s buttons, yet you argue quality, and then is says the 61s button playability is not quality.  Facts sure, preference sure, but don’t argue your preference as fact.

        • Djbarticus

          Pioneer has a range of gear from consumer to professional and they do a good job of blurring the line. Rane only makes pro gear. build quality is only part of what makes something professional, the other part is support. I have read many complaints about pioneer productions not being supported by the company.

          also about the broken buttons, rane will fix them for you, if you have a broken USB port on your pioneer CDJ, well that’s your own problem to deal with.

          i do think that rane made some misstep with the 57, and 68. I feel the 62 is the first digital mixer where they got everything right. rane is a company that cares so much about sound quality that they didn’t used to put power buttons on the mixers, and had external power supplies to have a cleaner signal path.

          i don’t have enough experience with A&H gear to comment on it.

          if you are comparing prices be sure to add 300-800 for the serato license (price rage of serato interfaces) 

          • Anonymous

            Not at all comparing prices, but that brings up a good point. At the same price point of the 62, there isn’t a mixer available that isn’t “professional”, that I have seen anyway.  They all have their strong points, and weaknesses, but they are all professional.  Simply because Rane only makes a pro line of mixers, and doesn’t do consumer products, doesn’t mean that all other companies pro lineup isn’t pro either.

            My point was only that because you prefer Rane, it doesn’t make all 2-4 channel mixers from $1500-$3000 non-professional like you proposed, just not your preference.  I have never dealt with Rane support, and have only touched the mixers a few times, but I own A&H, and I can assure you that they are professional mixers.

            Simply put, if you smash a professional guitar that was a vintage guitar in a rock show, just because you can’t get phone support for it the next monday doesn’t make it a consumer grade guitar.  Support helps, but does not define professional gear.

          • RBX

            With all due respect you’re starting to troll.  You like RANE mixers and they have great customer support, we get it.  Just because someone prefers something else apart from rane and places effects and number of channels in higher regard doesn’t mean they’re stupid.

            Keep things in perspective.

            I live in Australia and have been 57 owner for 3 years.  I recently broke the bass pot the left channel and have so far been waiting 2 months to get spares…. the support isn’t as great as the utopian picture you paint.

          • DJFT

             “I live in Australia and have been 57 owner for 3 years.  I recently
            broke the bass pot the left channel and have so far been waiting 2
            months to get spares…. the support isn’t as great as the utopian
            picture you paint.”

            DUDE YOU LIVE IN FREAKING AUSTRALIA … and… your complaining about turn around time on the other side of the planet… im sorry you live on the moon … but I live about 90 minutes away – had the USB port on my SL1 pop off. I dropped it off in person and it was shipped back to me in 48 hours.

            I also was probably the 3th or 4th owner of said SL1 box, had no box, no reciept, no registration – the sticker with the serial number was gone, its banged up on one corner, covered in decals, and smells like grimy club… they didnt say a single thing about it… didnt care they just smiled and helped me for free…
            Thats fucking service!

            Something happens to your Pioneer gear the day after the (very limited) warranty, and pioneer will tell you to go eat a dick.

            A&H mixers sound ALOT better than pioneer mixers on large systems, A&H and Rane are in the same league, Pioneer is not.

          • Owen

            If you think Australia is on the moon please never get a passport and just stay in Yanky land. Seriously people like you give Americans such a bad name. Australia’s festivals raked in gross earnings of $85.5 million last season. They also have a booming economy, something America hasn’t had in a long time. Everyone is playing out in Auz. Kindly try and get a grasp of geography and what other countries are actually like before you talk down to people on the internet because you look like an asshole.     

          • RBX

            Well that took less time than
            expected for comments to become ad hominem. 
            I totally forgot that there not a single that DJ exists outside USA, thankyou
            for reminding me.  What I also didn’t
            know is that the 30+ countries from Africa to the West Indies listed as
            official Rane international distributors on Rane’s website is in fact a lie,
            I’m so glad you’re here to breathe truth into the matter.  I also didn’t realize that everyone is the USA lives
            within 90 minutes of the Rane factory and can go there in person and therefore
            everyone gets instant service.

             

            I’ll have you know I purchased my 57
            direct from the USA,
            it took 5 days to arrive via UPS express. 
            A bass pot must be so much more difficult to send being so much bigger
            and bulkier than the whole mixer and all…

          • 4321djgear

            my audio 8 usb port never pops off..

    • RBX

      The Pioneer DJM-T1 has only two channels and that cost $1900 when it came out.  DJM-T1 also has only 1 soundcard, no LCD screen and no onboard effects…

      The DB4 and the DJM 900 are club mixers, the 62 is a battle mixer.  With battle mixers you always pay more for less because the parts are usually better quality.  Obviously this mixer is not for you, move along.

      • Justin

        Yes, you’re right. Clearly not for me and I do get it about the quality. But even this thing has it flaws (as read in the review)…

    • jprime

       Dual USB supports for swapping over serato laptops (I don’t use traktor, serato is better for my use).   FX aren’t a priority – scratching is.  With your Xone or Pio – That would mean bringing a serato box.   Better that it’s contained in the mixer.

       Dude, I could go on – horses for courses yeah?   ;)  To each his own, etc. 

       

  • jprime

    My next mixer.

  • Djbarticus

    I’m a very proud owner of this mixer, if anyone has any questions about it let me know.

    a couple things left out of the review
    -3 sets of outputs (XLR, TRS, RCA), each with separate volume control
    -20 channel sound card (4 stereo playback, 6 stereo record channels)
    -can send and receive MIDI timeclock
    -currently the ableton live “mixtape” features are disabled, the people on the serato forums have spoken and its something they are working on bringing back.

  • j-kut

    What about latency and sound quality?

    • Djbarticus

      i’ve been on this mixers since the first batch shipped out from rane 6 weeks ago

      the sound quality is much better than the 57, and the sl-1. i could always hear those sounding a little “cold” and “digital” the 32 bit floating point (look it up) is so good that i really can’t hear it.

      as for latency I asked and got the offical answer from rane and and serato here: http://serato.com/forum/discussion/629057

      if you use the mixer to play vinyl or CDs it has 1.28ms of latency, if you use it with Serato it can be as low as 8 ms, but you may have to set it higher if you have a slower computer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nathanmooney305 Nathan Mooney

      Answer: What latency? I bought this mixer after banging my head against the wall deling with TSP’s latency issues using the Audio8 Interface with vinyl. It’s on point every time, if there is any latency it is imperceptible.

  • Jamba Juice

    that is one ugly mixer

    • Str8up

      It’s ugly? Mother fucker are you going to be wearing it, faggot?

    • Str8up

      It’s ugly? Mother fucker are you going to be wearing it, faggot?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1428282377 Phil Morrow

    i’ll be sticking with the 57. outside of the dual usb, i can do everything the 62 does with the 57.

    • DJFT

       not true – a dedicated audio routing for the sampler. so you can have both serato channels playing  tracks + samples, cant do that on a 57 – and thats pretty huge in a 2 channel format

      • DJFT

         i explained that terribly – the website has the correct info. go go mmj!

        • Philskillz

          i see what your saying, but whats the big deal for dedicated audio routing for the sampler? The closest thing I do with a third channel on the 57 is hook up another sound card to the aux and route ableton to the card. I use the aux kinda like a 3rd chan 

          • DJFT

             its a 3rd channel for SP6 straight up

    • http://www.facebook.com/warpnote Audun Notevarp Sandvold

       The 62 can hood up an extra computer runna a daw, route the playing audio through this, and apply vst POST fader. A unique and very powerful feature, not available on any other mixer than 62 and 68. Explained for the 68 here http://rane.com/sixtyeightvstau.html

  • Lazyellow

    I nearly switched back to Scratch Live for this, but the SP6 has no sync, SL users do generally look down on the idea of sync but perhaps a pitch bend would have been a good alternative? I suppose you could always instant double a track deck down to the SP6 but it’s a bit long winded and as such its hard to see the SP6 being used for much more than just dropping one shots :(

    • http://www.facebook.com/warpnote Audun Notevarp Sandvold

       Im guessing Serato is working on sync for the Sample player, and it already has pitch bend…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1770079663 Randy Sciangula

    still very expensive compare to the traktor/pioneer alternative – DJM-T1 which is @ $999. 

    • DJFT

      those pioneer mixes don’t even compare… in quality or capability.

    • RBX

      The DJM-T1 has been out for almost year, when it was first
      launched its RRP was also $1900.  My guess is the lack of demand for the
      unit has since caused the rapid price fall.  Build quality aside, the
      DJM-T1 also only has only one soundcard, no onboad effects and no
      onboard high-pass/low-pass filters.

      Also, if you watch Traktor Kontrol F1 showcase video you’ll notice that DJ Shiftee using the Rane 56 as his mixer and not the DJM-T1.  Makes you wonder why the traktor posterboy isn’t using the apparent traktor/pioneer alternative…

       

  • Djecka84

    As of right now, if i had the option i would go with an used ddm 4000 and an used sl1. that would put u arround 500 and you would still have the same funtionality(not the dual usb though) but just a dif layout. (i own both mixers). 

    • DJFT

       K well you obviously dont scratch if you just put Behringer and rane crossfaders  in the same category and chose Behringer. I wont even mention sound quality or the several other blatent things smacking your comment in the face.

      My brain is still melting around your comment.  Your either a liar or a tard.

    • jsolo

      yeah sorry to break it to you behringer is the skid mark in the underpants of the dj world.

      • 4321djgear

        we’ll see about that when the Behringer modular controllers rule the “DJ world” starting this summer.

        DDM4000 IS a decent mixer. Check Innofader upgrade for DDM4000 if you are in need of scratch crossfader. 

        • DJFT

           All the old behringer crap will still suck when the modular stuff arrives FYI and its not opinion – its in the lack of quality

          • wallangalang

            FYI the ddm4000 is a decent piece of gear, innofader or not. I happen to have one and have yet to find something wrong with it (ok, maybe the sound quality isnt up to par with rane/ecleer but its still pretty bang for your buck).

          • djquirk

            I have a DDM4000 and an Ecler Evo 5. The Behringer is a great deal in terms of the midi functionality it offers for the $400 I paid for it. But in terms of sound and build quality it certainly sounds and feels like a $400 mixer. Still, it got me by until I could afford my Ecler. 
             

        • DJFT

           And no its not a Decent mixer it never will be, look at any behringer mixer wrong and the outputs fucking die. As far as the innofader… putting lipstick stick on a pig…comes to mind…

          Plus that mixer is way way to crowded on the bottom to be any sort of long term scratch solution, unless you have tiny tiny little girl hands and love carpal tunnel when you crab.

          But yeah… anyone who scratchs would never say innofader in behringer lol so thanks for commenting!

        • jsolo

          DJFT pretty much said it. Putting an innofader in a behringer mixer is the equivalent of putting a LS7 engine in a KIA. The car is still a piece of shit and isnt gonna last. 

          My brother took my mixer with him 7 years ago when he left town to go to graduate school. I needed a new 4 channel to pair with my CDJ 1000′s. I thought I could get away with a behringer for 3-5 months while I saved my money for something better. Crossfader shitted out within 2 weeks, channel 3 popped in and out and I could only use headphones bc the left channel on the rca out stopped working.

          I had heard of problems with behringer before and never intended to use the mixer for an extended period of time yet was still blown away at its utter shittyness and terrible quality.

          Good shit isn’t cheap, Cheap shit isn’t good.

  • Deaconjonez

    I have a 61 and my biggest complaint is that not all buttons are midi assignable really hope rane fixes that and allows all buttons to be mapped

    • http://twitter.com/djspisbornadj David John Perez

      I thought only cross/up-faders, and EQs are midi-capable on the 61.

    • http://twitter.com/djspisbornadj David John Perez

      I thought only the cross/upfaders & EQs were midi-capable on the 61.

    • djquirk

      I’m not a technician but I would think that adding midi capability to the various controls would require a hardware mod. I wouldn’t hold your breath for that.