Make it and sell me one!

looks nice!!! essentially a pioneer t1 without sound card or kontrol x1 with faders. perfect for dj who wanna rock traktor, but already got a mixer/sound card. i sure you can easily customize a midi fighter to do the same trick…. i’ll definitely be keen if it features arcade buttons for hot cues!

instantly pressing F5 and am happy to see a new blog post over there :)

instantly pressing F5 and am happy to see a new blog post over there :)

its missing arcade buttons, lots of them. Other than that it looks like a great piece of hardware.

its missing arcade buttons, lots of them. Other than that it looks like a great piece of hardware.

ITS MISSING ARCADE BUTTONS lol ok im pretty sure I aint the only one who asked for that. maybe a Vu meter would be a nice touch and a bpm blinking light. :) thank you guys i love my Midifighter Classic ^_^ 

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Just take my money!

APC 40 can do all of this and much more and willing to bet it would be cheaper

So true. :D So many controllers with the same functionality or less. but cost twice as much. 

So true. :D So many controllers with the same functionality or less. but cost twice as much. 

I would like to see 3 more knobs on the top for master, cue/mix, and phone vol, but that is not at all a deal breaker. This thing is awesome and is exactly what I have been looking for. With the right Traktor mapping, this could be an all in one controller perfect for house parties or the mobile DJ. I would pay no more than $200 for it. As stated by someone else, the APC 40 offers more controls and is a meager $250 (roughly), that said it is not nearly as ergonomic (for traktor/serato) as this controller. Also the X1 is clearly a direct competitor, and grossly over valued. If they released this for roughly the same price as the X1, well, bye bye X1. I think that $250 would be the price cap for me, and even then I would be hesitant. If they could make this a solid $200, consider it sold out. My main thought is keep the price down as much as possible. The market is flooded with all-in-one controllers that are too expensive, albeit high quality. Controllers that work well with the modular approach, like this one, if affordable, will destroy the competition.

I would like to see 3 more knobs on the top for master, cue/mix, and phone vol, but that is not at all a deal breaker. This thing is awesome and is exactly what I have been looking for. With the right Traktor mapping, this could be an all in one controller perfect for house parties or the mobile DJ. I would pay no more than $200 for it. As stated by someone else, the APC 40 offers more controls and is a meager $250 (roughly), that said it is not nearly as ergonomic (for traktor/serato) as this controller. Also the X1 is clearly a direct competitor, and grossly over valued. If they released this for roughly the same price as the X1, well, bye bye X1. I think that $250 would be the price cap for me, and even then I would be hesitant. If they could make this a solid $200, consider it sold out. My main thought is keep the price down as much as possible. The market is flooded with all-in-one controllers that are too expensive, albeit high quality. Controllers that work well with the modular approach, like this one, if affordable, will destroy the competition.

built in soundcard would be nice…

built in soundcard would be nice…

i like to see an in-build- soundcart…. but good concept ;)

the layout look simple and it’s compact. a winner in my book!

the layout look simple and it’s compact. a winner in my book!

Would buy it direct if it cost half of the DJM-t1!

Would buy it direct if it cost half of the DJM-t1!

That’s awesome. Like the look and the functionality. I think I’d go to $300 for that. Multi-layer functionality (like on the k2) would make this a game changer.

SUPER DOPE!!  I would rock this.  $400

I’ll buy it as long as it’s under 350 usd and no japanese person comes close to make the software. They make shit software for their beautiful hardware…

I’ll buy it as long as it’s under 350 usd and no japanese person comes close to make the software. They make shit software for their beautiful hardware…

I agree that VU meters are needed. How else are you to determine if you have any connection issues or if your next track will come in too loud?

Where are the turntables connecting? I see the USB cable coming from the mixer, but I do not see where or how the turntables interface with the rest of the setup. 

A minimal dedicated Low and High equalizer might be nice for times where you want to add a bit more kick to the bass or vocals.

An alternate MIDI Fighter special edition could space out the buttons and replace those tiny rubberized buttons that – if not placed right  - get caught under the faceplate when you are performing and hammering away at them in the heat of the moment. (I found this out the hard way after I bought my S4 and I mysteriously had my cue points keep playing after I let go of it.)

I’m hoping there is a curve adjustment available on all of the faders. Not everyone likes a slow curve. Some who do a lot of crab and transform scratches want the channel at full volume when the crossfader is merely less than a millimeter toward the opposite side. And please, NO CRAPPY 1970s Radio Shack FADERS! We want solid 45mm faders like what Skratchworx.com recommends (http://infiniumtechnologies.com/_catalog_50935/45mm_Faders). 

Um…yeah. That’s all I have for now until I actually have time to put some real thought in this.

I agree that VU meters are needed. How else are you to determine if you have any connection issues or if your next track will come in too loud?

Where are the turntables connecting? I see the USB cable coming from the mixer, but I do not see where or how the turntables interface with the rest of the setup. 

A minimal dedicated Low and High equalizer might be nice for times where you want to add a bit more kick to the bass or vocals.

An alternate MIDI Fighter special edition could space out the buttons and replace those tiny rubberized buttons that – if not placed right  - get caught under the faceplate when you are performing and hammering away at them in the heat of the moment. (I found this out the hard way after I bought my S4 and I mysteriously had my cue points keep playing after I let go of it.)

I’m hoping there is a curve adjustment available on all of the faders. Not everyone likes a slow curve. Some who do a lot of crab and transform scratches want the channel at full volume when the crossfader is merely less than a millimeter toward the opposite side. And please, NO CRAPPY 1970s Radio Shack FADERS! We want solid 45mm faders like what Skratchworx.com recommends (http://infiniumtechnologies.com/_catalog_50935/45mm_Faders). 

Um…yeah. That’s all I have for now until I actually have time to put some real thought in this.

price: 250$
need: shift button (two of them)

With sound card and some more buttons for modifires I’ll go 350-400$…

price: 250$
need: shift button (two of them)

With sound card and some more buttons for modifires I’ll go 350-400$…

I would just make it a X1 with built-in sound card and mixer.
I would pay about $200-250 for it. Also, i would want arcade buttons or at least bigger buttons at the top. That’s really all that the x1 is missing. Mixer and  good buttons for beat juggling.
I would definitely be interested in a product like this.

I LOVE the concept, but I’d like 2 more rows of knobs so that EQs+Gain as well as the EFXs habe their own row of dedicated knobs as well as 3 extra knobs+1small fader for master/booth output and cue/mix+vol.
Throw in 3 Innofaders for the cross as well as channelfaders and I’d pay 799 €!

WHY WOULD IT HAVE TO BE FOR MOBILE DJS OR  HOUSE PARTIES .. WITH A PRODUCT LIKE THIS IF IT WAS 4 CHANNELS  with sound card and traktor supoort this would be a djm 900 and djm t1 killer 

ive notice or maybe its me that alot of bedroom djs are on here complaining about products and prices  they want everything to be 300  or lower and to do every thing a s4 or ns6 or vestac can do .. this is why pro besides me  look down apon dj controllers . because these guys bitch and complain about what the want and then the manufactures make these cheap toyish products .. i say this is a great idea 4 channels a be better a sound card thats compatible with serato scratch live and traktor and there you go a winner  pro level …. i have a midi fighter pro i dj at xs and rumor in las vegas and trust me i never the traktor s4 and the midi fighter i use never looks to anyone as a toy but numarks and all these other products do 

Crossfader is un useful better to put there more 8 buttons. And I agree with – Krooklyninaa – no more than 200 $

So strange, I’ve been drawing up ideas for something exactly like this in the last few weeks. I would pre-order right now if…

- LED feedback for knobs/encoders
- LED feedback for faders
- three more knobs for Master, cue, phone
- curve control for cross fader
- three distinct colors for pads
- soundcard
- two versions,: entry level two channel, and Pro version with four channels and morepads. Entry level would be between $200 – $300, pro between $400 and $500
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So strange, I’ve been drawing up ideas for something exactly like this in the last few weeks. I would pre-order right now if…

- LED feedback for knobs/encoders
- LED feedback for faders
- three more knobs for Master, cue, phone
- curve control for cross fader
- three distinct colors for pads
- soundcard
- two versions,: entry level two channel, and Pro version with four channels and morepads. Entry level would be between $200 – $300, pro between $400 and $500
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Would it possible to map the center row of buttons to light up as a VU meter?

DJTT should definately make an arcade Midifighter/mixer. It would be very convenient nestled between the cleavage of two turntables.

I’d buy it. $2-300.
I’d like to see LED rotary lights around the knobs.(Like the APC40)
Also, it would be cool if the pads had different modes, like, MIDI input, and maybe velocity sens pads.etc.

4 Channels,
Maybe a few more mappable buttons on either side of the xfader.

SHit looks dope though, for sure!

A mixer that is not really a mixer? Now that’s something cute :)

A mixer that is not really a mixer? Now that’s something cute :)

I would like to see more people using a spell checker.

I would like to see more people using a spell checker.

Looks nice & pro…the video is great also :)
I like the buttons (classic Dj don’t need arcade one)
Doesn’t need sound card (most of Djs already have pro sound card)
I like the 2 channel concept

The controller miss:
-Vu-meters (for each channel & master)
-3 knobs at the top for monitoring/cue
-One more knob on each channel for filter
-multi layers with different led colors for each layer

For the price: it depends of the quality of the product…if it’s pro, solid…with the features I added, then something around 400€ for 2 channels

Looks nice & pro…the video is great also :)
I like the buttons (classic Dj don’t need arcade one)
Doesn’t need sound card (most of Djs already have pro sound card)
I like the 2 channel concept

The controller miss:
-Vu-meters (for each channel & master)
-3 knobs at the top for monitoring/cue
-One more knob on each channel for filter
-multi layers with different led colors for each layer

For the price: it depends of the quality of the product…if it’s pro, solid…with the features I added, then something around 400€ for 2 channels

It looks nice. Now, just wait for the price, see if it worth it

It looks nice. Now, just wait for the price, see if it worth it

maybe a couple of dedicated knobs for vol. control. And the ability to use it as a hybrid (controller and conventional mixer) would make it a killer piece of gear. 

it’s up tp you and the boys, Ean.  midi fighter adaption 2 &  4 channel versions considering the ddm-4000 as a 4 channel version at their cost of 250 – 300 euro, 400 tops for a 4 channel version 

1 simple reasons this rocks over APC-40 size and a more classic style and as as club DJ I know the Crowd prefer to see decks and a mixer over any controllers it’s just what they are used to see as a DJ dont get me wrong i love controllers but it’s a sad truth I get from punters at gigs

200-300dollars? You guys know that a god xfader is in the market of 70-150dollars alone? Add to that soundcard, the missing knobs and LED’s and we have long crossed the 500 barrier. And even under 1000dollars it would be a good deal as long as its good tech. 

The question here is if its a real mixer with midi capability or just a midi controller. The later I gotta admit is not worth over 200dollars regardless of fader brand. 

It needs at the very least a few more knobs for master out ext to make it a real mixer.  If it had that……. well i think this could move us into a new revolution of midi controllers.  I would easily pay upwards of 600$ for this mixer. especially if it had a sound-card and and the other necessities of normal mixers today.      
Honestly i think this is the most innovative thing i have seen in years even though the concept is not very crazy or new.

BUT: Is this a mixer, or a controller? I only see the usb connected, so I suppose this has to be done all in internal mode?

I really like this concept, especially if you can customise
the color of the visual feedback in the buttons.  Some people gripe about the lack of ‘master’ volume
knob but the reality is that both Traktor and Serato have auto-gain in the
software so that there isn’t wild volume differences between tracks like you
used to get with records.

The only I would have liked to see at least one rotary
encoder for navigating music….

Great concept to be applied to a new midi fighter model

I would love this. I use an apc20 w/ traktor now and this looks better.

I would love this. I use an apc20 w/ traktor now and this looks better.

Please, please make a production version of this! I would pay $500 for it. High quality faders, please.

Please, please make a production version of this! I would pay $500 for it. High quality faders, please.

love the concept, and it looks great, with a launch pad on top, but it would be hard for me to give up my Rane 57

love the concept, and it looks great, with a launch pad on top, but it would be hard for me to give up my Rane 57

That is a pretty awesome mixer. Would love to have it. Notice that the tables dont plug into it at all. How does it work then? The tables have to be plugged into the traktor soundcard but then how does the timecode work if you would have to control the mixer via internal mode? 

AWESOME SIMPLICITY. I would add 2 more rows of knobs though. If it was a real high quality build, (the APC40 being an example of mid poor quality), if it had high quality faders, a pro style cossfader, at least maybe the extra rows of knobs to be push button encoders, I would pay between 300-500 bucks, pending how things worked software wise. Any thing less, I would not pay over 200. 

It’s a GREAT idea, would love to see more things out like this, along with the K2.

Wouldn’t the turntables be connected to an audiocard as this doesn’t appear to have one and the mixer is just controlling them through the software?

that guy killed it… just sayin

if this came out for around sub $350.  i would sell my S4 buy two turntables, get this thing, and go insane. its would bridge the gap for me (between analog and digital),  eliminating the reason i dont want to get turntables.

As-Is, this piece of gear works for bedroom DJs who don’t already have an all-in-one controller or a standard mixer setup. (Price point less than $400)  Otherwise there are far too many other options that are cheaper to produce and obtain.  

Now, if this were a pro piece of gear I think it could work if it were based on a standard 4 channel analog mixer with the complete functionality of a DJM 800, but equipped with 24 midi-mappable buttons as well as at least 16 additional midi-mappable knobs.  Sound cards are only a convenience, and IMO not worth the extra $$ as every Digital DJ brings their sound cards with them even if the club provides ‘em.

A piece of gear such as this would be suitable for a wide range of DJ’s playing many different genres across a multitude of platforms.  If built from high quality durable components, promoted intelligently, and priced competitively - might even dislodge Pioneer or A&H as the standard club mixer.

don’t mean to be hyper-critical but i do not see the unique concept actually. or maybe i don’t get the point.

talking about the price: if you are NOT using dvs and simple route analoge signals through your software you will need a decent soundcard, laptop, software and this thing… which will raise the price level into hights of reasonable quality analog mixers. well yes, you get effects for that…okay.

if you are using dvs than, alright…it’s internal mixing mode. So you will still need a soundcard as traktor scratch only supports NI products (don’t know about serato, my bad). Then this thing is just another midi controller offering faders, knobs and some buttons. plus the way this prototype is designed now it does not provide enough controls to use it as a all-in-one controller, so in reality it’s a limited and stripped-down device.

as some guys already mentioned, you can already do all of the thing shown in the video with an apc…nothing new.

as i wanna be positive…the overall concept could be something to find it’s niche on the market, integrate the midi-fighter into a battle mixer, maybe add a soundcard… like the s2 without jogs. but guess what: if you’ going for quality it won’t be as cheap as some of you guys are hoping for.

The company told Gizmo of Skratchworx that it will be around 49800 Yen. So, about $650…They claim it’s because they are a small team and have to do everything by hand per order…but c’mon, there’s not even an audio device!  That’s just a crazy price.  Unless the faders are the greatest I’ve ever felt, idk…

The company told Gizmo of Skratchworx that it will be around 49800 Yen. So, about $650…They claim it’s because they are a small team and have to do everything by hand per order…but c’mon, there’s not even an audio device!  That’s just a crazy price.  Unless the faders are the greatest I’ve ever felt, idk…

The company told Gizmo of Skratchworx that it will be around 49800 Yen. So, about $650…They claim it’s because they are a small team and have to do everything by hand per order…but c’mon, there’s not even an audio device!  That’s just a crazy price.  Unless the faders are the greatest I’ve ever felt, idk…

Exelent mixer concept… things missing which i feel are very important though… VU METERS!!! a thing lacking on a lot of midi controllers… If not seperate channel and master VU’s, at least a master out VU. I dont like looking at my screen to check my levels…  Master gain knob… self explanatory… A nice added bonus would be some endless push rotaries on each side to play with loop lengths and other things that dont neccesarily have concrete data… Maybe if push rotaries are added, also an LED to display the current push state of the encoder.

Other than that… great mixer concept! Would be awesome to use with serato/bridge or with traktor pro 2′s sample decks

I would like to see a whole range of modular component parts in the form of “Decks”, Mixers and FX Controllers.  I am always wanting to change my setup based on the environment. Most times when you play out its much easier to plugin to an existing mixer, so modular components allow me to have one setup at home and different setups depending on where I play.

I would like to see a whole range of modular component parts in the form of “Decks”, Mixers and FX Controllers.  I am always wanting to change my setup based on the environment. Most times when you play out its much easier to plugin to an existing mixer, so modular components allow me to have one setup at home and different setups depending on where I play.

I would like to see a whole range of modular component parts in the form of “Decks”, Mixers and FX Controllers.  I am always wanting to change my setup based on the environment. Most times when you play out its much easier to plugin to an existing mixer, so modular components allow me to have one setup at home and different setups depending on where I play.

I would like to see a whole range of modular component parts in the form of “Decks”, Mixers and FX Controllers.  I am always wanting to change my setup based on the environment. Most times when you play out its much easier to plugin to an existing mixer, so modular components allow me to have one setup at home and different setups depending on where I play.

I like it but it is ugly…

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Tracklist :) love that last track used in the mix..

Tracklist :) love that last track used in the mix..

Anyone know what songs he used in that video?

well as much as crowds love to see jog wheels and the club’s worn-out djm800, I have realized that jog wheels can’t be used in a room with one 18″ sub without forcing the tightest mixes out of phase, much less a club rig. And I know that people look at an apc40 as a toy, and two cdj200s as professional kit, but when the cdj guy is spending all his time beatmatching and trying to keep his tracks in phase, all of a sudden the apc40 looks alot more professional.

I agree. If the middle of the s4 was available without the decks (can’t stand jog wheels) I would sell anything and everything to make one mine. Some DJs just need 4 channels.

the apc40′s layout needs work if it’s gonna stand up as a DJ tool. I use one and can’t stand having the line faders to the left of the crossfader, and the eq being horizontal..

You can set all those preferences inside the software (I know traktor has these settings, not sure about other software)