• http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379550175 Kord Taylor

    Hi Gang,

    Just wanted to mention that we added some more new features to meta.DJ:

    - AirPlay output
    - zoomable (via standard pinch/pull) hi-res wave display
    - text-based search in the Track Deck when adding tracks

    Be sure to check the demos on our YouTube channel as well, it’s at:

    http://www.youtube.com/soundtrends

    Cheers,
    –kT 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379550175 Kord Taylor

    Hi Gang,

    If anyone is wondering how to trigger your own samples in the new meta.DJ for iPad One Shot device? Here’s a YouTube tutorial:

    Cheers,

    –kT

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379550175 Kord Taylor

    Hi,

    Just a word that Meta.DJ for the iPad is on a1/2 price sale until this weekend (2-17-2012)

    It’s only $9.99 USD and and as the review mentions, it lets you DJ with iTunes tracks (with Cue/Loop Presets), XY touch effects (delays, stutters, filters, etc) and performance instruments like Looptastic (a loop player/mixer), a NEW one shot sample player for triggering your WAV files, drumtron (a new type of drum machine) and a sampler synth. 

    You can even use MIDI to sync it to your Mac/PC with Live, Traktor, etc.

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meta.dj-dj.-mix.-beats./id464590436?mt=8

    Thanks,

  • Playboynine

    Awesome app. If you think it’s only two fingers you are as dumb as you type

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for sharing this information.
    It will really helpful to solve my confusion

    Process $ Chemical Engineering

  • http://www.soundtrends.com Kord

    Hi Gang!

    Just a mention that we added some features in our last release (currently available on the app store):

    - support for the numark iDJ Live controller

    - bulk import of iTunes tracks and Playlists

    - an EQ

    - more beats for drumtron

    Also the price is going up from the $9.99 intro to $19.99 next Monday, Oct 31st.

    And BTW we are doing Core MIDI sync and in-app Loop Set creation for the next update, so grab it while the price is low!

    Cheers,

    –kT

  • http://www.soundtrends.com Kord

    Hi Gang!

    Just a mention that we added some features in our last release (currently available on the app store):

    - support for the numark iDJ Live controller

    - bulk import of iTunes tracks and Playlists

    - an EQ

    - more beats for drumtron

    Also the price is going up from the $9.99 intro to $19.99 next Monday, Oct 31st.

    And BTW we are doing Core MIDI sync and in-app Loop Set creation for the next update, so grab it while the price is low!

    Cheers,

    –kT

  • http://www.soundtrends.com Kord

    Hi,

    Kord from sound trends again.
     
    And no, I am not Thong nor do I pay him :^)
     
    I just wanted to mentioned we have another update to the app  that is now on the store that deals with some of the things brought up. So we hope we are on the right track(s) for you guys :^)

    Re: DJing with just the touch screen
    We added support for the iDJ Live controller.

    Re: prefader/cue monitoring
    We added the dual mono cable support that was mentioned previously. You’re right that it is the best we have until the platform supports multichannel.

    Re: EQ
    We added a simple one that you can use in conjunction with the filters if you wish.

    Stability
    We added fixes there and obvioiusly want to hear at support@soundtrends.com if someone has any problems.

    Track Import
    There is now a way to do a bulk track import, so you can bring in a few tracks or a whole playlist to your set’s snapshots area. 

    Content
    Added some more beats to drumtron and are currently working on better content management for audio loops. We will continue to push towards the instruments as well.

    Re: “using our own stuff”
    We actually use this stuff and play with it live.Another guy at the company and I did an electronic music night at a coffee shop the week the app was released. And you’re right, using the stuff is key to getting it right.

    I hope Markku and some you who have the app grab this update and continue to pound us to do the right things.

    THanks Again,

    –kT

  • http://www.soundtrends.com Kord

    Hi,

    Kord from sound trends again.
     
    And no, I am not Thong nor do I pay him :^)
     
    I just wanted to mentioned we have another update to the app  that is now on the store that deals with some of the things brought up. So we hope we are on the right track(s) for you guys :^)

    Re: DJing with just the touch screen
    We added support for the iDJ Live controller.

    Re: prefader/cue monitoring
    We added the dual mono cable support that was mentioned previously. You’re right that it is the best we have until the platform supports multichannel.

    Re: EQ
    We added a simple one that you can use in conjunction with the filters if you wish.

    Stability
    We added fixes there and obvioiusly want to hear at support@soundtrends.com if someone has any problems.

    Track Import
    There is now a way to do a bulk track import, so you can bring in a few tracks or a whole playlist to your set’s snapshots area. 

    Content
    Added some more beats to drumtron and are currently working on better content management for audio loops. We will continue to push towards the instruments as well.

    Re: “using our own stuff”
    We actually use this stuff and play with it live.Another guy at the company and I did an electronic music night at a coffee shop the week the app was released. And you’re right, using the stuff is key to getting it right.

    I hope Markku and some you who have the app grab this update and continue to pound us to do the right things.

    THanks Again,

    –kT

  • Mrkevinjbrown

    Hi. Great review. Is there anything like this for the Android market?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379550175 Kord Taylor

    Thanks again for the comments. We are taking them all to heart, and have already submitted an update to the app store with more on their way.

    Also PLEASE leave a review on the app store if you bought the app and think we’re on the right track. It helps us to keep the updates coming :^)

    kord – a soundtrends guy

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379550175 Kord Taylor

    Thanks again for the comments. We are taking them all to heart, and have already submitted an update to the app store with more on their way.

    Also PLEASE leave a review on the app store if you bought the app and think we’re on the right track. It helps us to keep the updates coming :^)

    kord – a soundtrends guy

    • Anonymous

      It’s awesome. Always loved looptastic producer.. and this, for 10 bucks especially, is mind blowing.

  • Heythere

    Im sorry but djing with your two index fingers…..COULDNT THINK OF ANYTHING WORSE

  • Metro-holografix

    really impressive musical gestures need more space, than an ipad touchinterface can provide

  • Metro-holografix

    really impressive musical gestures need more space, than an ipad touchinterface can provide

  • Metro-holografix

    really impressive musical gestures need more space, than an ipad touchinterface can provide

  • Gdfgd

    Can you tell me why the track being used is from an illegal music blog?

    • Jonbeattie

      Exactly what i was thinking…Dont think a certain Mr. Zimmerman would take to kindly to this :)

    • Jonbeattie

      Exactly what i was thinking…Dont think a certain Mr. Zimmerman would take to kindly to this :)

    • Jonbeattie

      Exactly what i was thinking…Dont think a certain Mr. Zimmerman would take to kindly to this :)

    • Jonbeattie

      Exactly what i was thinking…Dont think a certain Mr. Zimmerman would take to kindly to this :)

    • Jonbeattie

      Exactly what i was thinking…Dont think a certain Mr. Zimmerman would take to kindly to this :)

    • streetstreet

      I was just gonna say the same thing

  • http://www.djutu.fi/ Markku Uttula

    Like others have said, this is definitely a nice toy to play with, but I wouldn’t prefer to play a gig with it. As a backup solution, though… maybe – with some reservations.

    During the first hour I played with it, it crashed twice. Both times happened at the exact moment one of the tracks reached end. The software simply died at that point, no warnings or anything like that. An unpolished bug that would make performance a complete nightmare. I believe this will get fixed soon, it can’t be such a big problem.

    When adding a new track, there is no search feature I can find. If I have more than just a couple of songs on my iPad, finding a correct song can become troublesome. Granted, you can browse the files based on track, artist or album name (and playlists, which I found to be a bit buggy), which does help a bit. However, having a “find”-feature would be welcome.

    There are a few minor UI-mistakes… for example, the play-buttons are located just
    below the drop down -menu, which on the left side decks positions a
    “delete deck”-button just where the play-button was. On a touch
    interface, a minor click just a few pixels off from intended target can
    send your deck into nonexistence just at the wrong time.

    I could find no way to zoom the play-area waveform view in or out. This would be a very neat addition; currently I can only see the next three beats, which is way too little for me. The “phase indicator” of the master clock helps somewhat, but is far from perfect. Also, when I press pause, I’d expect the track to stop immediately instead of playing the phrase to the end like it currently does. Furthermore, my the application failed a few times to place the grid precisely; modifying it at the current zoom-level on a touch interface is – simply put – awful.

    I would also be interested in how can I create my own sample sets for the Looptastic, SaMPL3R and Drumtron… they are fabulous features, but being limited to the sample sets provided by someone else – diminishes their usability a lot, on my opinion.

    Naturally, iPads single stereo output means that there is absolutely no way of implementing a “pre-fader cueing” for the application (unless taking the same road as some other software have gone, by limiting outputs to “mono only” and pumping both the main- and cue-output through the same jack). This means that you’re absolutely on the mercy of the software. Furthermore, you need to actually know the songs you’re about to play (then again, on my opinion that is always a prerequisite for DJs).

    All the above said, I think the software is really going places. The
    feature set is absolutely overwhelming; not only in the category of
    “sub-10$ applications”, but also when compared to many professional
    tools available. However, so far, it is only a toy – but I personally do not regret purchasing the app … it is a toy that shows a lot of promise.

    • http://www.djutu.fi/ Markku Uttula

      Minor followup; I checked out the app developer’s site for tips, and apparently they have a tool for creating your own sample sets called “SetMaker” (you can also use their iPad standalone apps “Looptastic HD” & “Looptastic Producer” for this task.

      They acknowledge the cueing problem and are considering the possibility to use a headphone splitter (like some other DJ tools) which I mentioned in the original comment.

      • http://www.facebook.com/djkleen Thong Nguyen

         thank you so much for this review!! i was highly debating on purchasing this app… but after your review… i buying it!  thank you again for the fantastic review!

    • http://www.facebook.com/djkleen Thong Nguyen

      Thank you for this fantastic review! I was highly debating on purchasing this app, but after reading your review… im sold! great review and totally appreciate it! =]

    • Anonymous

      It seems like Sound Trend is paying for social marketing, good example from “Thong Nguyen”. Big big LOL!

  • Thanatos

    merging production tool and djiing tools is the future !

  • Anonymous

    cute toy…

  • http://profiles.google.com/tkeebler Todd Keebler

    “Just remember that when you get less modular with what you’re DJing with, you need to always have a back up plan.” Although true, considering the price and other uses of an iPad, I think the solution to this is fairly straight forward: buy a second back-up iPad.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tkeebler Todd Keebler

    “Just remember that when you get less modular with what you’re DJing with, you need to always have a back up plan.” Although true, considering the price and other uses of an iPad, I think the solution to this is fairly straight forward: buy a second back-up iPad.

    • Spacecamp

      Hah! Yep, totally valid. Actually, considering the lack of routing control, maybe you just buy two and have eight decks – four on each side!

      • Kord

        Yup. 2 are even more fun. And yes, we are working on Core MIDI sync so you can use the 2 together (via hardware MIDI interface, wifi or Bluetooth) *or* sync them up with Ableton, traktor, etc. on a Mac.

  • Anonymous

    For 10 Bucks, if I had an iPad, I’d start playing with it.

    scamo

  • DJ 707

    Interesting, I don’t see my self using an I pad anytime soon in the club, but had anyone told me I would have abandoned vinyl and gone digital with a lap top when I started out I would not have believed them. I am not a I pad expert as I don’t own one but having a couple of them synched up would be cool and simple set up. Question for I pad users, how stable are they? Are they prone to locking up and crashing?

    • szantog

      The iPad and iOS alone is very stable, similar to OSX. But the app you’re using for DJing can crash, if the developer did not put enough energy to stability.

      Most DJing apps are not usable professionally, because they crash in 60 minutes… most apps in the App Store are not made for robust long-term usage.

      Fortunately some DJing apps can work without any problems for 8 hours continuously playing in the DJ booth, but as i’m a developer for such app, it wouldn’t be fair advertise ourself here. :-)

      • Kevins212

        As I’m not affiliated with any software company – the app I referred to was DJ Mixer Pro which I certainly didnt purchase with an intent to replace any dj gear – more for shits + giggles.  But it was pretty bad in terms of crashing/locking up.  Oddly enough, right after I posted the first message above, they posted an upgrade to the itunes store which I’ll download and certainly update this message with any fixes that this upgrade provides in terms of useability.

        DJ World Studio was an app I tried for 20 mins on a buddys ipad and it was slightly better but neither of these were serious dj’ing apps in any way, shape or form – more like novelties.

        MetaDJ seems a little more serious so ill give it a try..

      • Kevins212

        As I’m not affiliated with any software company – the app I referred to was DJ Mixer Pro which I certainly didnt purchase with an intent to replace any dj gear – more for shits + giggles.  But it was pretty bad in terms of crashing/locking up.  Oddly enough, right after I posted the first message above, they posted an upgrade to the itunes store which I’ll download and certainly update this message with any fixes that this upgrade provides in terms of useability.

        DJ World Studio was an app I tried for 20 mins on a buddys ipad and it was slightly better but neither of these were serious dj’ing apps in any way, shape or form – more like novelties.

        MetaDJ seems a little more serious so ill give it a try..

    • szantog

      The iPad and iOS alone is very stable, similar to OSX. But the app you’re using for DJing can crash, if the developer did not put enough energy to stability.

      Most DJing apps are not usable professionally, because they crash in 60 minutes… most apps in the App Store are not made for robust long-term usage.

      Fortunately some DJing apps can work without any problems for 8 hours continuously playing in the DJ booth, but as i’m a developer for such app, it wouldn’t be fair advertise ourself here. :-)

    • Kevins212

      The ipad itself is one of the most stable pieces of hardware I’ve ever owned.. that said, there are some apps that are poorly designed which can definitely lock up and freeze the app completely (i played with some other really cheesy ipad dj app once and this froze constantly – but it wasnt a ‘serious’ app (at least I dont think it was anyways)).

      Safari can also freeze up from time to time but it seems like its certain websites that it doesnt like (ebay is the one that seems to lock up safari for me believe it or not). 

      Outside of those 2 examples, I’ve used an ipad2 extensively from right around the time it was released and its been very very stable.  Never, ever had a random crash with ipad2.

      For $10, this metadj app looks like it’ll be getting a test drive from me soon.  I’ll give it props if it can make its way thru all these features with stability.  You’ll notice ipad apps in general are rather shallow in content most of the time so this will be interesting to see how so many features play under the same app roof together. 

      The only other ‘serious’ music app I’ve used was TouchOSC and that is very stable but I really dont think that has as much going on within the app as this does (touchosc seems pretty simple in concept compared to metadj – TouchOSC = send a midi message / receive a midi message / allow some customization of graphic buttons VS MetaDJ = process tracks, apply effects, loops, synths, drum overlays, etc etc – thats quite alot going on compared to other ipad apps)

    • DJ Jaz

      iPad is the most stable thing I ever owned. If I could use a touch interface for djing, hands down I would pick iPad.

  • szantog

    How to you beatmatch with this, how do you bend? How do you mix with this without a 3-band EQ?

  • szantog

    How to you beatmatch with this, how do you bend? How do you mix with this without a 3-band EQ?

    • JD

      szantog, it automatically beat matches everything for you. As for bending I’m assuming you mean change the BPM. There is a tap tempo for that. As for EQ there is an X/Y pad for each device with three filter types. You can use those instead of eqs.

    • JD

      szantog, it automatically beat matches everything for you. As for bending I’m assuming you mean change the BPM. There is a tap tempo for that. As for EQ there is an X/Y pad for each device with three filter types. You can use those instead of eqs.

      • szantog

        That’s cool until the app detects bpm and places beatgrid correctly. But what if it’s wrong (even with a small value), or i’d like to mix a disco track from the 70′s for example?

        If i must use the X/Y pad, how do i adjust the color of the track permanently (like boosting the highs a bit), while using something to cut the bass for mixing?

        These examples (and i can come up with more) are limiting the app’s usage for a resident DJ.

        • Spacecamp

          You can edit the beat grid for correction – it’s not as precise as Traktor, but it’s pretty damn good. 

          The X/Y FX pad has hold controls – get those highs just right and hit hold, and it will lock it in place. Using filters on a touch device just makes more sense (you don’t have to take my word on it – IllGates talks about this quite a bit in some of his videos) than trying to duplicate the tradition EQ knobs. 
          That being said, it takes some getting used to. 

          • szantog

            I totally agree that knobs on a touch interface is not that user friendly. We don’t use any either. :-)

          • Anonymous

            Szantong, I bought both – your DJ Player and Meta.DJ. I’ve owned DJ Player for about 2 months and Meta.DJ for a couple of days now.

            While DJ Player is more professional (especially in connection with NetOut) and more intuive to work with, it also has fairly bad BPM detection (I play DnB). I’ve had to use external apps to calculate exact BPM and then use the old PLIST/now SQLITE db import function to correct the tempo. Then I still had to fiddle a little with the values as the looping functions simply lost sync with the playing track when loops were held for a while. Approx. 45 per cent of my tracks were detected wrongly and it costs me a lot of time to correct it.

            Out of the 300 or so tracks that I’ve loaded into Meta.DJ so far it detected ZERO with a wrong tempo despite ignoring bpm tags (including DrumStep with triolic bass patterns). I had to reset the grid to set the “1″ on approx. 10 songs, that was it. They’re all perfectly beat-locked.

            Meta.DJ has its flaws, for sure: yes, it definitely needs a proper 3-band eq per channel, the crossfader is WAY too tiny, it sometimes hangs, the filter presets are a bit too harsh and it’s not very intuitive (plus misses a user guide). But in technical areas it’s sometimes miles ahead of DJ Player/Red Bull BPM HD.

            Now in my ideal world you’d nick some of those ideas and improve on them instead (allow manual zoom and editing of such a beat-locked wave form, for example). Because for now DJ Player is still my weapon of choice.

          • szantog

            Hi Stonecut, thank you very much for your feedback (it’s a bit odd place tough). :-)

            We’ve drastically improved our bpm detection accuracy on the latest release (came out just 1 week ago, so maybe you did not have time to try and had a lot tracks analyzed with an older version). Despite of this, it’s not very high priority for us to make it super precise and as automatic as possible (like beatgrids): every DJ can easily beat-match, it’s so easy (if a DJ can’t, then he’s a live act and not a DJ, different story).

            We also fixed the looping bug already, coming out in the next (small, bug fixing) release soon.

            We continue to focus on ease of use, usability (in a real DJ booth), performance (speed) and stability.

            Cheers,

            Gábor

          • Anonymous

            Hi Gábor, I was referring even to DJ Player 4 BPM detection algo (which is indeed better than before). The bpm detection is still not usable for breakbeats, IMHO. I read on your twitter that the internal loop function is now based (in alpha) on frames instead of ms (very cool!), however that won’t help me since my tracks’s BPM doesn’t get detected correctly. So – back to the db export/manual editing. Oh, and NetOut needs a “record” button ;)
            I can happily send you some tracks that get bad bpm detection.

        • JD

          szantog each x/y pad can run up to four effects simultaneously and there is a hold button for each. This will allow you to use three filter types and it will hold the settings for each. Eq would be nice don’t get me wrong I’m sure they will add more features with future updates. This is great feedback though.

  • Hoffmann1337

    Thanks for sharing, ive tried a lot of djing apps but this one really caught my attention for more then 30 minutes :)
    Apart from that i will kepp usong the iPad as a controller with touchosc, miditouch or even konkrete performer

  • Hoffmann1337

    Thanks for sharing, ive tried a lot of djing apps but this one really caught my attention for more then 30 minutes :)
    Apart from that i will kepp usong the iPad as a controller with touchosc, miditouch or even konkrete performer

  • Hoffmann1337

    Thanks for sharing, ive tried a lot of djing apps but this one really caught my attention for more then 30 minutes :)
    Apart from that i will kepp usong the iPad as a controller with touchosc, miditouch or even konkrete performer

  • Hoffmann1337

    Thanks for sharing, ive tried a lot of djing apps but this one really caught my attention for more then 30 minutes :)
    Apart from that i will kepp usong the iPad as a controller with touchosc, miditouch or even konkrete performer

  • Micha

    Definately a musthave app to tryout for ipad DJ’s.
    Nice article!