• DJ Elevation

    So the price of this mixer dropped down to $700. For $1600 it was laughable, does anyone own this mixer and use it for Traktor and Serato? Your thoughts?

    I’d like to have a solution for both programs as they certainly both have plusses and minuses. Thinking of this or a Traktor z2 with one turntable and one midifighter. When I want to use Serato, just plug in a SL2 box, and use the midi controls on the mixer.

    Has anyone used either one for controlling Serato that could give a recommendation?

  • Calkutta

    sorry,i am totally happy with moving my fingers over 3 inches to reach my X1…for this price,seriously?…plenty of mixers that cost half this are way better,and you get to keep your sound card.unless you are djing outta a lunch box in iraq,i dont see the need for all this in one unit,and even losing my A6 to less connections….
    just my 2 cents…pioneer makes great mixers and im sure this thing is cool,but way outta my reach,way way out.
    j-kut

  • Djmabonzo

    I would like to see N.I. build their own mixer geared toward their software. Not That they have to copy the ttm 57 or any of the newer Rane mixers, but a solid product that they can put on the market with confidence

  • http://twitter.com/SEBdotDJ seb.dj

    Can someone acknowledge that there is no option to listen to channel AUX using the headphone?! (the AUX/mic channel on the front). 

  • http://twitter.com/AbeRomano Abe Romano

    I haven’t loved a mixer this much since my TTM-57. L-O-V-E.

  • Rodger Mettenday

    Great review! I almost bought the unit, but when I learned from you that it doesn’t have effects capability if not connected to a computer, I knew it’s not versatile enough for me.

  • Francisco_serrano

    On you tube it says that it ships with a copy if traktor and time codes?
    Is this correct?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeroen-Krieger/1101447983 Jeroen Krieger

    Now pioneer shoud make a 4 channel one ;)
    With 2 usb ports for double djing!

  • djMIXali

    Video review???

  • Elevations

    Does Pioneer bother to check out the rest of the controller market and prices?
    Paying $2000 on a mixer is sooooo 80′s
    Anyone that buys this mixer is an ignorant Pioneer fanboy, and just a plain idiot. 
    The beauty of Traktor is NOT having to spend $2000 on a bullshit mixer !
     

    • Killalllooters

      Yeh the beauty of traktor is having to spend $2000 on a mac to make it work..

  • Mylestec

    Hmm… admittedly I prefer the sound quality of A&H mixers over the Pio counterpart, but even so, I just don’t see too many Traktor users that will be satisfied with only 2 channels as it really cuts down on the functionality that Traktor scratch pro 2 offers.

    Further, because the retail price tag of this unit is so high – and flexibility so low, it seems that very few would be properly motivated to purchase this mixer.  What’s more is that scratching djs like to tag-team.. To this regard, I quite often play with other DJ’s who use Serato and we daisy chain ADJ8′s Serato boxes so that we can tag-team.  However, with only 2 channels I don’t think that strategy will work on this mixer will it?

    • Michielygil

      I’ve stepped down to a 2 channel mixer and am using 2 decks and 2 sample decks with it. With a build in soundcard and some midi at your disposal you’ve got almost limitless options on how you want to route stuff. Of course it depends on your way of djing, but with build in stuff and matrix assign, you can go a long way.

  • Michielygil

    As far as 2 channel mixers with midi and integrated (DVS) soundcard goes, I really think my Denon DN X600 is way better value for money. And it DOES have curve adjust on both X and channel faders and fader start. 
    For a third (!) of the price! I really don’t understand how some extra midi-buttons can justify this…

  • Twig

    Dont get me wrong, but this product is a good example of how its not gonna work :
    1. Price : 1600 bugs – Its (just) a standart 2 Channel Mixer (300 Xone 22), simple audio interface(250 Audio 5 DJ), Midi functions (190 NI X1) = 740 ?!?!
    2. Sound Quality : There’s a reason why there are just A&H Mixers in EVERY high end House / Techno Club – They sound way better, not the sharp, digital, pioneer kinda way

    btw : Maybe you should alle care a lot more about the music you play than wasting your time thinking about what super duper new tech tool would be interesting, spending hours on midi mapping your controller to work better with the new traktor update etc etc etc …

  • Twig

    Dont get me wrong, but this product is a good example of how its not gonna work :
    1. Price : 1600 bugs – Its (just) a standart 2 Channel Mixer (300 Xone 22), simple audio interface(250 Audio 5 DJ), Midi functions (190 NI X1) = 740 ?!?!
    2. Sound Quality : There’s a reason why there are just A&H Mixers in EVERY high end House / Techno Club – They sound way better, not the sharp, digital, pioneer kinda way

    btw : Maybe you should alle care a lot more about the music you play than wasting your time thinking about what super duper new tech tool would be interesting, spending hours on midi mapping your controller to work better with the new traktor update etc etc etc …

    • cabdoctor

      BTW maybe you should go back to crooklynclan.net

      • Wookie

        I think you can compare this mixer to Rane 61 or 62 just for traktor. And as known, rane has super duper mixers full of stuff. So I don not get your idea

    • cabdoctor

      BTW maybe you should go back to crooklynclan.net

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/PaulHolland-DoubleDutchdj/100001027166218 PaulHolland DoubleDutchdj

    This mixer really makes my shit itch, in so many ways Pioneer have nailed the difficult features perfectly. To cram 90% of an X1 onto a battle mixer without making it cluttered is an achievement, I bet it’s a joy to work with. But I could never justify getting a T-1, I don’t care about the price, it is what it is. If you want quality tank like durability you gotta expect to pay for it, after nearly a decade of djm 707 mixer ownership, I can safely say Pio know how to make a battle mixer that lasts years of proper abuse. However, if I swapped part of my current set up, Audio8, X1, DJM 707 and replaced with an T-1, I’d lose so many vital features without gaining anything bar convenience and lfo midi rotaries, yippee! 

    @Chriss Cartledge, How does it handle the audio from the loop recorder?? is there at least an internal send return loop bus to enable send effects, or to allow for post fade loop recorder sampling?? Post fade sampling is a massive feature for scratch jocks who wanna sample them selfs cutting it up.

    The lack of proper rotary curve adjust on “all” fades, no hardware send return loop and the seemingly lack of loop recorder controls pretty much kills this mixer for me.  Such a shame, this could of easily been a dream come true for many.

    At the end of the day Pioneer do know exactly what there doing for there customers, but they could of gained so many more if they didn’t intentionally stream line vital scratch features out of the T-1, let alone make the line fades slightly stiff. 

    Time will tell if Pio were write to ignore the needs of proper Turntablists. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/PaulHolland-DoubleDutchdj/100001027166218 PaulHolland DoubleDutchdj

    This mixer really makes my shit itch, in so many ways Pioneer have nailed the difficult features perfectly. To cram 90% of an X1 onto a battle mixer without making it cluttered is an achievement, I bet it’s a joy to work with. But I could never justify getting a T-1, I don’t care about the price, it is what it is. If you want quality tank like durability you gotta expect to pay for it, after nearly a decade of djm 707 mixer ownership, I can safely say Pio know how to make a battle mixer that lasts years of proper abuse. However, if I swapped part of my current set up, Audio8, X1, DJM 707 and replaced with an T-1, I’d lose so many vital features without gaining anything bar convenience and lfo midi rotaries, yippee! 

    @Chriss Cartledge, How does it handle the audio from the loop recorder?? is there at least an internal send return loop bus to enable send effects, or to allow for post fade loop recorder sampling?? Post fade sampling is a massive feature for scratch jocks who wanna sample them selfs cutting it up.

    The lack of proper rotary curve adjust on “all” fades, no hardware send return loop and the seemingly lack of loop recorder controls pretty much kills this mixer for me.  Such a shame, this could of easily been a dream come true for many.

    At the end of the day Pioneer do know exactly what there doing for there customers, but they could of gained so many more if they didn’t intentionally stream line vital scratch features out of the T-1, let alone make the line fades slightly stiff. 

    Time will tell if Pio were write to ignore the needs of proper Turntablists. 

  • http://www.djpc3.com DJ PC3

    Its def a little over priced, but this is the first Scratch certified pro mixer (sorry Denon & Mackie)… thats why I have already pre-ordered and can’t wait to get it in the mail :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/piopro James ‘Pioneer’ Burkill

      the scrach certified means nothing if you know how to map midi for me the denon kicks it ass in every way: price, quality just as good and features check the specs….
       

    • http://www.facebook.com/piopro James ‘Pioneer’ Burkill

      the scrach certified means nothing if you know how to map midi for me the denon kicks it ass in every way: price, quality just as good and features check the specs….
       

      • http://www.djpc3.com DJ PC3

        The Denon definitely is cheaper… but thats it. I don’t want to have to map midi (even though I know how). I want plug-n-play capability straight out the box.

        Plust this Pioneer has way better sound quality, better ergonomic layout (effects & sampler built right on the mixer) & some dope exclusive features not found on ANY OTHER mixer.

        Not to mention the 2-channel Denon (X-600 I believe) is not technically “Scratch Certified” meaning it could lose that ability if Traktor Scratch Pro 2 ever updates or anything. 

        If you really think the Denon is better why haven’t I seen a review for DJ TT or you. I’ve tried personally to contact Denon with these concerns and to no avail, received no feedback from them.

        I personally will never buy anything Denon (or recommend them) because of it. A company shouldn’t treats its potential customers and reviewers like that…

        • djproben

          Sound quality is a subjective determination in the end, but to say the Pioneer has “way better sound quality” means you probably haven’t listened to the Denons.  The X1600 and X1700 are both TSP certified fully as far as I can tell, and as for sound quality I’ve only used the 1700 but to me it is far nicer than the Pioneer sound which I find a bit hollow.  I also find the Pioneer EQs to be lacking in the bass which to me feels like less control, though some prefer it.  To be fair, I tried a Pioneer 900 Nexus recently and found the sound a lot more substantive than other Pioneers but as far as sound goes I still prefer the Denon.

        • djproben

          Sound quality is a subjective determination in the end, but to say the Pioneer has “way better sound quality” means you probably haven’t listened to the Denons.  The X1600 and X1700 are both TSP certified fully as far as I can tell, and as for sound quality I’ve only used the 1700 but to me it is far nicer than the Pioneer sound which I find a bit hollow.  I also find the Pioneer EQs to be lacking in the bass which to me feels like less control, though some prefer it.  To be fair, I tried a Pioneer 900 Nexus recently and found the sound a lot more substantive than other Pioneers but as far as sound goes I still prefer the Denon.

      • http://www.djpc3.com DJ PC3

        The Denon definitely is cheaper… but thats it. I don’t want to have to map midi (even though I know how). I want plug-n-play capability straight out the box.

        Plust this Pioneer has way better sound quality, better ergonomic layout (effects & sampler built right on the mixer) & some dope exclusive features not found on ANY OTHER mixer.

        Not to mention the 2-channel Denon (X-600 I believe) is not technically “Scratch Certified” meaning it could lose that ability if Traktor Scratch Pro 2 ever updates or anything. 

        If you really think the Denon is better why haven’t I seen a review for DJ TT or you. I’ve tried personally to contact Denon with these concerns and to no avail, received no feedback from them.

        I personally will never buy anything Denon (or recommend them) because of it. A company shouldn’t treats its potential customers and reviewers like that…

    • djproben

      What are you talking about?  Both Denon and Mackie have TSP certified mixers.

  • JuanSOLO

    I’m definitely interested in a battle style S4-ish mixer. I feel like this mixer , as well as others keep missing the mark. At $1500 bucks it needs to have everything it’s missing.  

  • JuanSOLO

    I’m definitely interested in a battle style S4-ish mixer. I feel like this mixer , as well as others keep missing the mark. At $1500 bucks it needs to have everything it’s missing.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grant-Reynolds/748309866 Grant Reynolds

    Dont even get me started on these pieces of shit!  Pioneer are fucking up the controllerism market with these peices of shit.. I have used both the tracktor and serato versions extensively and there horrid!!  The whole idea of controllers is to move away from the conventional thought of 2 decks and a mixer.. thats so old school..

    I work in a DJ store part time and i will sell an S4 over one of these any day…. although that still has unnecessary jog wheels. 

    Ive been a controlerism DJ for 5 years, regular CDJ dj for 2 years and i have used both ableton and Traktor in live environments.  This unit is a step in the wrong direction..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grant-Reynolds/748309866 Grant Reynolds

    Dont even get me started on these pieces of shit!  Pioneer are fucking up the controllerism market with these peices of shit.. I have used both the tracktor and serato versions extensively and there horrid!!  The whole idea of controllers is to move away from the conventional thought of 2 decks and a mixer.. thats so old school..

    I work in a DJ store part time and i will sell an S4 over one of these any day…. although that still has unnecessary jog wheels. 

    Ive been a controlerism DJ for 5 years, regular CDJ dj for 2 years and i have used both ableton and Traktor in live environments.  This unit is a step in the wrong direction..

    • WillBlaze

      This unit is for people who still use vinyl and turntables. What does it have to do with controllerism? Why so upset? Not being a dick, just asking a question.

      • shunt

        Thing is though the S4 can even do the vinyl and turntable stuff using its two audio in ports and at a cheaper price. Admittedly it has a rather wide footprint with that controller, which isn’t ideal for scratch DJ’s, but you get pretty much everything on this mixer and then a whole lot more at a significantly cheaper price. Can’t really see who this mixer is aimed at tbh. Club mixers need 4 channels, too expensive for bedroom dj’s, too low on features for controllerists.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grant-Reynolds/748309866 Grant Reynolds

          your exactly right.. Its hard trying to up sell people to the Pioneer product when is really doesn’t do too much more than a BCD3000 lol..

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grant-Reynolds/748309866 Grant Reynolds

          your exactly right.. Its hard trying to up sell people to the Pioneer product when is really doesn’t do too much more than a BCD3000 lol..

    • WillBlaze

      This unit is for people who still use vinyl and turntables. What does it have to do with controllerism? Why so upset? Not being a dick, just asking a question.

    • http://www.djpc3.com DJ PC3

      I think u are confusing the DJM-T1 & the DDJ-T1… One is a mixer the other is a controller.

      Which shows me u didn’t even read the column (or even look at the pictures lol), just decided to run ur mouth (or type on ur key-board), without really being engaged in the discussion given.

      I admit it has its faults, but nothing is perfect (ever) & by not evening get the right product and reading the column, u really discredit whatever you were trying to say. Just makes u look foolish.

      What DJ store do u work for? So I can be sure never to go there; I’ll ask for a microphone and because u didn’t listen to what I said, send me a pair of headphones… lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grant-Reynolds/748309866 Grant Reynolds

        Ah, you got me there..  I thought i read the DDJ-T1 lol.. still, you wont catch me purchasing brand new pioneer gear anytime soon.. 

    • http://www.djpc3.com DJ PC3

      I think u are confusing the DJM-T1 & the DDJ-T1… One is a mixer the other is a controller.

      Which shows me u didn’t even read the column (or even look at the pictures lol), just decided to run ur mouth (or type on ur key-board), without really being engaged in the discussion given.

      I admit it has its faults, but nothing is perfect (ever) & by not evening get the right product and reading the column, u really discredit whatever you were trying to say. Just makes u look foolish.

      What DJ store do u work for? So I can be sure never to go there; I’ll ask for a microphone and because u didn’t listen to what I said, send me a pair of headphones… lol

  • Dj SpecR

    i thought tthe price is to high 1600€
    u get an denon x 1600 for 1000€ and buy the traktor scratch certified update fo 300€ …. 1300€ for a 4channel mixer + interface+ scratch pro

  • Dj SpecR

    i thought tthe price is to high 1600€
    u get an denon x 1600 for 1000€ and buy the traktor scratch certified update fo 300€ …. 1300€ for a 4channel mixer + interface+ scratch pro

  • Snarejordan23

    if this had post fader fx i would buy it in a heartbeat.

  • Snarejordan23

    if this had post fader fx i would buy it in a heartbeat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/martin.schneider Martin Schneider

    didn’t read it yet, but THANK YOU for the review… waited for this

  • http://www.facebook.com/martin.schneider Martin Schneider

    didn’t read it yet, but THANK YOU for the review… waited for this

  • DjfarmerJames

    I really think Pioneer are starting to miss the point, I mean you can get a a fully integrated 4 channel controller like the S4 or DN-MC6000 for a lot less… or am I the one missing the point?

  • DjfarmerJames

    I really think Pioneer are starting to miss the point, I mean you can get a a fully integrated 4 channel controller like the S4 or DN-MC6000 for a lot less… or am I the one missing the point?

    • Tyfurious

      Scratch certified, but I think the S4 can do that too.  But it does have a analogue mixer feel, which a lot of DJs are begging for (more music less software).

    • Tyfurious

      Scratch certified, but I think the S4 can do that too.  But it does have a analogue mixer feel, which a lot of DJs are begging for (more music less software).

  • http://twitter.com/aestheticbliss Rune

    Would be interested, but 2 channels!

  • http://twitter.com/aestheticbliss Rune

    Would be interested, but 2 channels!

  • DJ Strategy

    As mentioned in the review, the price is definitely steep + the lack of IMPORTANT features such a fadercurves and most of all a SECOND USB-input for DJ switching and controls for cuepoints 5-8 as well as FX-Units 3/4 kinda kills this mixer for me!!
    Why doesn’t anyone including N.I. with their new soundcard think of a second USB-Input!

  • DJ Strategy

    As mentioned in the review, the price is definitely steep + the lack of IMPORTANT features such a fadercurves and most of all a SECOND USB-input for DJ switching and controls for cuepoints 5-8 as well as FX-Units 3/4 kinda kills this mixer for me!!
    Why doesn’t anyone including N.I. with their new soundcard think of a second USB-Input!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Crayon/687300676 Barry Crayon

    Surely one of the biggest conveniences of SSL and TS is being able to pack up the audio interface and take it to gigs with you, seems like your paying more for less convenience with this

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Crayon/687300676 Barry Crayon

    Surely one of the biggest conveniences of SSL and TS is being able to pack up the audio interface and take it to gigs with you, seems like your paying more for less convenience with this

    • Jared

      I find it strange that you consider needing one less piece of equipment an inconvenience. The less you NEED  to carry, the more convenient in my eyes. If I need an extra soundcard, the option to bring it is still there.

      • DJ Strategy

        Well, I think what he meant was, that now, instead of just needing to pack up your interface you need to bring an entire mixer! ; )

    • Jared

      I find it strange that you consider needing one less piece of equipment an inconvenience. The less you NEED  to carry, the more convenient in my eyes. If I need an extra soundcard, the option to bring it is still there.

  • http://twitter.com/iSuitUp Mickael Lucarelli

    This mixer lacks 2 channels to justify this price.

  • http://twitter.com/iSuitUp Mickael Lucarelli

    This mixer lacks 2 channels to justify this price.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mathew.kazmierowski Mathew Kazmierowski

    Very sexy mixer, but the price! D:

  • http://www.facebook.com/mathew.kazmierowski Mathew Kazmierowski

    Very sexy mixer, but the price! D: