don’t you mean Lackmus test?

I’ve ran into the issue of not being accepted a few times. Even when I use my midifighter with my technics. But after they see the creative things I cam do with that setup they usually STFU.

You should put Umek as well on that list

Good article with some solid truth, thanks for the read. Inspiring ;)

Porter Robinson?

I would add Chris Liebing and Speedy J to the list ;-)

For 2 years on the Gold Coast, Australia i have battled with this.. I normally got around this by not telling them and rocking up with my gear (with a set of backup CD’s just incase).

not exclusively though. They’re using traktor, cdj’s, maschine, etc etc. but not only controllers

Carl Cox playing with traktor and a maschine doesn’t he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sC5MuZ5J-s&feature=related ..no ;)

skrillex and deamau5 anyone?

grand master flash, anyone? seeing him with richie hawtin in a traktor commercial sealed da deal for me more than 2 years ago to go digital…..

it is a shame that some people don’t understand that there is hardly any difference between using CDJ’s or 1200′s and running this into Traktor or Serato against a Serato or Traktor midi controller DJ. Also some pro DJ’s have well prepped CD’s warped on a 128 BPM grid and with 16 bar intro-outtro loops. So all together it shows that many different technologies lead to a so called pro DJ, And for some club owners it looks like they use the CDJ’s and 1200′s to play.
Like said in this article many of us are not Professional DJ’s but just play for the fun. That is exactly why i don’t like Pioneers marketing stragegy. They are the ones that create the industry Discrimination norm and not the club owners or Pro DJ’s, i have seen some pro’s play with a DDM4000 and give the same show. For Pioneer it is Play with their stuff or you ain’t a PRO. And just to contribute to the discrimination they offer great price tags on the equipment. Here many of us are cut out because it simply doesn’t justify the investment to have this equipment for one to have at home…And the Pro world is created that way.
Never the less all Pioneer DJ products are outstanding good quality products, no one can’t deny that….

Dunno- my searching has him playing with CDJs recently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztf5IEEJ54M#

Sasha?

daedalus and tokimonsta

the biggest of them all must be paul van dyk…… and deadmau5……. if u ask deadmau5 to play on a cdj he would look at u like u wr from the stone age or something…. lol

I never heard of a Lackmus test so I googled it, and it seems Lackmus is the German translation of Litmus.

When people say, “Well, that’s cool, but it would never work in a club…” I simply respond with “Who cares?”

Amen brother Ean!!!

I think a big finger can be pointed at the bedroom DJ’s that are trying to gain acceptance by the so called pro DJ community as well. They just reinforce the statement that you have to use CDJ’s or turntables to be a ‘real’ DJ by buying all that gear. The sad part is half the time they’re not any good, or just do basic two deck mixing. They’re using CDJ’s though so they’re the real deal :rolleyes: I’m not bashing basic two deck mixing, I do it all the time. :)

That coupled with the fact that there’s next to no cost to get into the DJ game to the point that you can call yourself a DJ. It used to be you had to spend some serious pocket change just to get the gear to be able to call yourself a DJ. or at least have parents that would spend the $$ for you. Now all you need is a torrent and, if you’re ambitious, a $100 controller.

Because of this a promoter doesn’t know if you downloaded whatever software last week and happen to have a lot of facebook friends, or if you’re the real deal and know what you’re doing. That’s the same as it’s always been though, spoiled kids have always been around.

So we just need to keep rocking our chosen gear set and never give up. It’s going to be a slow process, but it’ll speed up exponentially!! Just like CDJ’s were looked down on, but now they’re the norm. Controllers will be the norm eventually.

And on a final note, If you did just download whatever software and aren’t getting gigs don’t blame it on the fact that you’re using a controller. The methods may have changed a little, but getting that club residency still happens pretty much the same way it did 20 years ago. You have to put in the work and prove yourself.

Here, Here!

This article just reinforces the fact that it doesn’t matter what controller or vst platform you choose, just how well you perform with it.

This article just reinforces the fact that it doesn’t matter what controller or vst platform you choose, just how well you perform with it.

“Well, that’s cool, but it would never work in a club…”

Maybe not YOUR club…and how’s that brick cell phone workin’ out for ya? Bet you get great reception in the back of your horse & buggy.

“Well, that’s cool, but it would never work in a club…”

Maybe not YOUR club…and how’s that brick cell phone workin’ out for ya? Bet you get great reception in the back of your horse & buggy.

“Well, that’s cool, but it would never work in a club…”

Maybe not YOUR club…and how’s that brick cell phone workin’ out for ya? Bet you get great reception in the back of your horse & buggy.

I think where we are now is that we are no longer really DJs. The paradigm has changed and we are now closer to a performer than a DJ. Traditionally DJs were taste setters. We told people what music they should be listening to and where the trends were going. The DJ embraced new sounds, artists, styles, etc… and brought it to the masses. As technology advanced we became more and more interactive with the music; eliciting our own perspectives and creating an ambiance in the clubs. We evolved to become much more like conductors orchestrating the music to deliver an experience not just playing music we loved.

Now we are at a point where we are still those taste setters but we are so much more as well. We interact with the music on a whole new level. We manipulate it to bring about our own style and flavor. We are the gatekeepers of our musical past, present, and future.

My whole point is to suggest that perhaps our own paradigms on what we are needs to change as well. We hold on to the moniker of DJ because it brings thoughts of those trend setters and taste makers of yesterday. We are so much more though! We have evolved! We are DJ Superior! The mutant child of music, art, and performance. Masters of technology that bend sound to do our bidding.

Ok, maybe that was a little over the top. My suggestion when you run into these dinosaur club owners is to try and promote yourself more like a band would. You’re a performer not a human jukebox paid to play popular tracks. If club-goers wanted that experience there are plenty of bars and clubs where they can get that. We are the underground. Embrace that before it’s gone. We will be the ones to define the clubs’ evolution not the other way around. Pretty soon there will come a time when we will evolve again and when that happens we will be the dinosaurs still holding onto our buttons and faders.

I think where we are now is that we are no longer really DJs. The paradigm has changed and we are now closer to a performer than a DJ. Traditionally DJs were taste setters. We told people what music they should be listening to and where the trends were going. The DJ embraced new sounds, artists, styles, etc… and brought it to the masses. As technology advanced we became more and more interactive with the music; eliciting our own perspectives and creating an ambiance in the clubs. We evolved to become much more like conductors orchestrating the music to deliver an experience not just playing music we loved.

Now we are at a point where we are still those taste setters but we are so much more as well. We interact with the music on a whole new level. We manipulate it to bring about our own style and flavor. We are the gatekeepers of our musical past, present, and future.

My whole point is to suggest that perhaps our own paradigms on what we are needs to change as well. We hold on to the moniker of DJ because it brings thoughts of those trend setters and taste makers of yesterday. We are so much more though! We have evolved! We are DJ Superior! The mutant child of music, art, and performance. Masters of technology that bend sound to do our bidding.

Ok, maybe that was a little over the top. My suggestion when you run into these dinosaur club owners is to try and promote yourself more like a band would. You’re a performer not a human jukebox paid to play popular tracks. If club-goers wanted that experience there are plenty of bars and clubs where they can get that. We are the underground. Embrace that before it’s gone. We will be the ones to define the clubs’ evolution not the other way around. Pretty soon there will come a time when we will evolve again and when that happens we will be the dinosaurs still holding onto our buttons and faders.

I think where we are now is that we are no longer really DJs. The paradigm has changed and we are now closer to a performer than a DJ. Traditionally DJs were taste setters. We told people what music they should be listening to and where the trends were going. The DJ embraced new sounds, artists, styles, etc… and brought it to the masses. As technology advanced we became more and more interactive with the music; eliciting our own perspectives and creating an ambiance in the clubs. We evolved to become much more like conductors orchestrating the music to deliver an experience not just playing music we loved.

Now we are at a point where we are still those taste setters but we are so much more as well. We interact with the music on a whole new level. We manipulate it to bring about our own style and flavor. We are the gatekeepers of our musical past, present, and future.

My whole point is to suggest that perhaps our own paradigms on what we are needs to change as well. We hold on to the moniker of DJ because it brings thoughts of those trend setters and taste makers of yesterday. We are so much more though! We have evolved! We are DJ Superior! The mutant child of music, art, and performance. Masters of technology that bend sound to do our bidding.

Ok, maybe that was a little over the top. My suggestion when you run into these dinosaur club owners is to try and promote yourself more like a band would. You’re a performer not a human jukebox paid to play popular tracks. If club-goers wanted that experience there are plenty of bars and clubs where they can get that. We are the underground. Embrace that before it’s gone. We will be the ones to define the clubs’ evolution not the other way around. Pretty soon there will come a time when we will evolve again and when that happens we will be the dinosaurs still holding onto our buttons and faders.

That’s right evolve or become a fossil…

That’s right evolve or become a fossil…

That’s right evolve or become a fossil…

i just want to respond to this as i was one of those ” spoiled kids” who just so happen to take my music passion into Djing as playing an “instrument” wasn’t my cup of tea. and i just wanna say just cause some of our parents bought or shelled the money doesnt mean were “spoiled” or any less of a music person than the rest whether we just got our setups or not, everyones got to start some where ^_^ ; not trying to bash you, or upset you or flame you, i’am just saying, we are out there i guess if you’d consider me spoiled, but me and my parent enjoy music and dj together. all the time. and its fun, so i think “spoiled kids” should be included in the dj thing. as you seem to use it as a put down twords us.

i just want to respond to this as i was one of those ” spoiled kids” who just so happen to take my music passion into Djing as playing an “instrument” wasn’t my cup of tea. and i just wanna say just cause some of our parents bought or shelled the money doesnt mean were “spoiled” or any less of a music person than the rest whether we just got our setups or not, everyones got to start some where ^_^ ; not trying to bash you, or upset you or flame you, i’am just saying, we are out there i guess if you’d consider me spoiled, but me and my parent enjoy music and dj together. all the time. and its fun, so i think “spoiled kids” should be included in the dj thing. as you seem to use it as a put down twords us.

i just want to respond to this as i was one of those ” spoiled kids” who just so happen to take my music passion into Djing as playing an “instrument” wasn’t my cup of tea. and i just wanna say just cause some of our parents bought or shelled the money doesnt mean were “spoiled” or any less of a music person than the rest whether we just got our setups or not, everyones got to start some where ^_^ ; not trying to bash you, or upset you or flame you, i’am just saying, we are out there i guess if you’d consider me spoiled, but me and my parent enjoy music and dj together. all the time. and its fun, so i think “spoiled kids” should be included in the dj thing. as you seem to use it as a put down twords us.

Well said Ean! Its sad tho that ppl get denied just cuz they use controllers.

Well said Ean! Its sad tho that ppl get denied just cuz they use controllers.

Well said Ean! Its sad tho that ppl get denied just cuz they use controllers.

No offense taken. Clearly there’s a difference between the type of spoiled person I was referring to and the type of person who has a passion for the music and the art. I did use it as a blanket term, but I by no means meant every kid who’s parent bought them some DJ gear.

Trust me, as the parent of somewhat musically spoiled children (16 and 12) I truly know the joys of sharing a passion with your children.

No offense taken. Clearly there’s a difference between the type of spoiled person I was referring to and the type of person who has a passion for the music and the art. I did use it as a blanket term, but I by no means meant every kid who’s parent bought them some DJ gear.

Trust me, as the parent of somewhat musically spoiled children (16 and 12) I truly know the joys of sharing a passion with your children.

No offense taken. Clearly there’s a difference between the type of spoiled person I was referring to and the type of person who has a passion for the music and the art. I did use it as a blanket term, but I by no means meant every kid who’s parent bought them some DJ gear.

Trust me, as the parent of somewhat musically spoiled children (16 and 12) I truly know the joys of sharing a passion with your children.

[...] the other hand, aficionados of avant-garde controllerism, such as Ean Golden over at DJ Tech Tools, are saying that what you do with your DJing should be all about personal satisfaction and self [...]

Gui Boratto also on that list

So apart from some slight technicalities (this is gonna start an argument i know it!) whats the difference between manipulating a track with SL1200, a CDJ-1000 or an S4 jog?
I’ve used all 3 throughout the years and yes I can scratch, beat juggle whatever. It’s basically the same concept! Progressing through the 3 types has enabled me to carry less weight, have more control and ensure the gear I’m using is bang on ie. I turn up with an S4 and don’t have to worry about the state of the carts, dodgy tone-arm or crackling cross-faders…

(ok…. i’m hiding now – stoke the cannons)

The point of being a DJ in my eyes has always been at a basic level to entertain by playing music… Disc Jockey… Mixing the music is one aspect of this, it doesn’t necessarily add or detract from the overall entertainment value. Se if you play all rare grove funk than when originally recorded was played to a click track or if you play 4 x 4 techno that was made on a laptop and then played on traktor with sync on using a controller it is no more or less entertaining.

Also… technology advances are great! You wouldn’t want your doctor to perform surgery on you with a flint and some leaves… or maybe you would…

:-)

The point of being a DJ in my eyes has always been at a basic level to entertain by playing music… Disc Jockey… Mixing the music is one aspect of this, it doesn’t necessarily add or detract from the overall entertainment value. Se if you play all rare grove funk than when originally recorded was played to a click track or if you play 4 x 4 techno that was made on a laptop and then played on traktor with sync on using a controller it is no more or less entertaining.

Also… technology advances are great! You wouldn’t want your doctor to perform surgery on you with a flint and some leaves… or maybe you would…

:-)

I’ll toss my hat into the ring for Breakbot and Shook, french and dutch respectively. These guys are rocking Europe with ableton. Breakbot uses a BCR2000 and last time i checked Shook was using a Evolution ECU. Fairly certain The Twelves just played coachella using their normal 2 man Ableton setup.

I’ll toss my hat into the ring for Breakbot and Shook, french and dutch respectively. These guys are rocking Europe with ableton. Breakbot uses a BCR2000 and last time i checked Shook was using a Evolution ECU. Fairly certain The Twelves just played coachella using their normal 2 man Ableton setup.

I’ll toss my hat into the ring for Breakbot and Shook, french and dutch respectively. These guys are rocking Europe with ableton. Breakbot uses a BCR2000 and last time i checked Shook was using a Evolution ECU. Fairly certain The Twelves just played coachella using their normal 2 man Ableton setup.

Carl Craig on Maschine? I mean Seeing a legend like him, use maschine sold me out, to try it, and I have never looked back.

Carlo Lio plays Traktor in internal mode with two X1 controllers. I play same way except only one X1 controller with my personal midi mappings on the shift page. And we rock the houses!!!

Carlo Lio plays Traktor in internal mode with two X1 controllers. I play same way except only one X1 controller with my personal midi mappings on the shift page. And we rock the houses!!!

Carlo Lio plays Traktor in internal mode with two X1 controllers. I play same way except only one X1 controller with my personal midi mappings on the shift page. And we rock the houses!!!

Daedelus!! all controller, and an amazing performer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_zIvFYQWig&feature=feedlik

And its just a a matter of time before it just becomes standard to have conrtollers. but for now, you gotta prove the dumb club owners wrong!!

Daedelus!! all controller, and an amazing performer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_zIvFYQWig&feature=feedlik

And its just a a matter of time before it just becomes standard to have conrtollers. but for now, you gotta prove the dumb club owners wrong!!

To me, it always depends on the crowd you get. Period.

If you’re in a room full of vinyl purists, then you will get flack for being on midi. If you’re in a posh glam club…no one is really going to care. If you’re in a cool spot with open-minded people, then go nuts and give them a show to impress.

I more roll my eyes at people who live in the past. When I show up to an event and they’re playing old music on vinyl because they think everything “new” is “bad”. They also then have to wonder why their audiences are getting older in age and smaller in numbers.

To me, it always depends on the crowd you get. Period.

If you’re in a room full of vinyl purists, then you will get flack for being on midi. If you’re in a posh glam club…no one is really going to care. If you’re in a cool spot with open-minded people, then go nuts and give them a show to impress.

I more roll my eyes at people who live in the past. When I show up to an event and they’re playing old music on vinyl because they think everything “new” is “bad”. They also then have to wonder why their audiences are getting older in age and smaller in numbers.

To me, it always depends on the crowd you get. Period.

If you’re in a room full of vinyl purists, then you will get flack for being on midi. If you’re in a posh glam club…no one is really going to care. If you’re in a cool spot with open-minded people, then go nuts and give them a show to impress.

I more roll my eyes at people who live in the past. When I show up to an event and they’re playing old music on vinyl because they think everything “new” is “bad”. They also then have to wonder why their audiences are getting older in age and smaller in numbers.

why is there so much hate here for “traditional” methods of djing? you guys all say you got into digital djing at a fraction of the cost, but i got my 2 CDJ 400s used for 1000 bucks, just like an S4 would cost. and to be perfectly honest i was using them with traktor- until traktor started forgetting its mapping and file location files and got really frustrating… so i burned a couple CDs and taught myself how to use them. it really wasnt that hard. and now i have WAY more fun while im DJing and the only way i can describe it is by asking a question: do you prefer to drive stick or automatic? sure automatic is easier and care-free, but when you drive stick it feels like you and the car are one, like you are part of the machine, and eventually you do things (shifting, or beatmatching) without thinking. that’s how i feel when im DJing with no computer. and you know what? yah i get paid gigs. and i get at least one a month where i open for a international Dubstep or Electro act and guess what they use? CDJs. Ean you have a point- most DJs arent professionals and shouldn’t need to concern themselves with using pro-gear. BUT this mentality should apply to bedroom DJs ONLY. if your dream is to play in a club then you should learn to use CDJs/vinyl, just like if you wanted to be a fireman you have to learn how to use a hose (you dont go around crying about how they wont let you fight fires with your new super soaker). now- you can bitch and moan about “closeminded” promoters and all that but it wont change anything. the fact is they will choose a CDJ DJ over a Controller DJ every day and night of the week simply because its easier for them and most promoters i know have enough to worry about, never mind some new kid who thinks they know about sound. and you know something its easier for you too- just rock up to the club with a CD wallet and headphones (lighter than an S4! no way!!) everything is already set up and ready to rock- and if there is a problem with a fader, tone arm etc it has been my experience that most club owners will go out of their way to rectify the problem because they dont want to take any chances with the music because they know it fuels the night. Big names get to use whatever they want and will usually bring their own stuff which is another great reason controllers will never get into clubs- everyone uses their own!! they are all different!! now if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed. i mean im sure most people could hack it but it wouldnt be ideal. my point is: Club DJs need different gear than house party/bedroom guys do so just decide what you want to be and leave it at that. stop trying to force controllers into the club, most of them arent even built or designed for it and the ones that are cost as much as traditional gear so why make a big deal out of it? the guys that dont care are too busy playing infront of hundreds of people anyways.

why is there so much hate here for “traditional” methods of djing? you guys all say you got into digital djing at a fraction of the cost, but i got my 2 CDJ 400s used for 1000 bucks, just like an S4 would cost. and to be perfectly honest i was using them with traktor- until traktor started forgetting its mapping and file location files and got really frustrating… so i burned a couple CDs and taught myself how to use them. it really wasnt that hard. and now i have WAY more fun while im DJing and the only way i can describe it is by asking a question: do you prefer to drive stick or automatic? sure automatic is easier and care-free, but when you drive stick it feels like you and the car are one, like you are part of the machine, and eventually you do things (shifting, or beatmatching) without thinking. that’s how i feel when im DJing with no computer. and you know what? yah i get paid gigs. and i get at least one a month where i open for a international Dubstep or Electro act and guess what they use? CDJs. Ean you have a point- most DJs arent professionals and shouldn’t need to concern themselves with using pro-gear. BUT this mentality should apply to bedroom DJs ONLY. if your dream is to play in a club then you should learn to use CDJs/vinyl, just like if you wanted to be a fireman you have to learn how to use a hose (you dont go around crying about how they wont let you fight fires with your new super soaker). now- you can bitch and moan about “closeminded” promoters and all that but it wont change anything. the fact is they will choose a CDJ DJ over a Controller DJ every day and night of the week simply because its easier for them and most promoters i know have enough to worry about, never mind some new kid who thinks they know about sound. and you know something its easier for you too- just rock up to the club with a CD wallet and headphones (lighter than an S4! no way!!) everything is already set up and ready to rock- and if there is a problem with a fader, tone arm etc it has been my experience that most club owners will go out of their way to rectify the problem because they dont want to take any chances with the music because they know it fuels the night. Big names get to use whatever they want and will usually bring their own stuff which is another great reason controllers will never get into clubs- everyone uses their own!! they are all different!! now if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed. i mean im sure most people could hack it but it wouldnt be ideal. my point is: Club DJs need different gear than house party/bedroom guys do so just decide what you want to be and leave it at that. stop trying to force controllers into the club, most of them arent even built or designed for it and the ones that are cost as much as traditional gear so why make a big deal out of it? the guys that dont care are too busy playing infront of hundreds of people anyways.

why is there so much hate here for “traditional” methods of djing? you guys all say you got into digital djing at a fraction of the cost, but i got my 2 CDJ 400s used for 1000 bucks, just like an S4 would cost. and to be perfectly honest i was using them with traktor- until traktor started forgetting its mapping and file location files and got really frustrating… so i burned a couple CDs and taught myself how to use them. it really wasnt that hard. and now i have WAY more fun while im DJing and the only way i can describe it is by asking a question: do you prefer to drive stick or automatic? sure automatic is easier and care-free, but when you drive stick it feels like you and the car are one, like you are part of the machine, and eventually you do things (shifting, or beatmatching) without thinking. that’s how i feel when im DJing with no computer. and you know what? yah i get paid gigs. and i get at least one a month where i open for a international Dubstep or Electro act and guess what they use? CDJs. Ean you have a point- most DJs arent professionals and shouldn’t need to concern themselves with using pro-gear. BUT this mentality should apply to bedroom DJs ONLY. if your dream is to play in a club then you should learn to use CDJs/vinyl, just like if you wanted to be a fireman you have to learn how to use a hose (you dont go around crying about how they wont let you fight fires with your new super soaker). now- you can bitch and moan about “closeminded” promoters and all that but it wont change anything. the fact is they will choose a CDJ DJ over a Controller DJ every day and night of the week simply because its easier for them and most promoters i know have enough to worry about, never mind some new kid who thinks they know about sound. and you know something its easier for you too- just rock up to the club with a CD wallet and headphones (lighter than an S4! no way!!) everything is already set up and ready to rock- and if there is a problem with a fader, tone arm etc it has been my experience that most club owners will go out of their way to rectify the problem because they dont want to take any chances with the music because they know it fuels the night. Big names get to use whatever they want and will usually bring their own stuff which is another great reason controllers will never get into clubs- everyone uses their own!! they are all different!! now if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed. i mean im sure most people could hack it but it wouldnt be ideal. my point is: Club DJs need different gear than house party/bedroom guys do so just decide what you want to be and leave it at that. stop trying to force controllers into the club, most of them arent even built or designed for it and the ones that are cost as much as traditional gear so why make a big deal out of it? the guys that dont care are too busy playing infront of hundreds of people anyways.

Started back 1993 with turntables added a sampler in 95, did the CDJ thing for a minute then dusted off the 1200’s in 06, and got Traktor Scratch in 08.
Right around that time I started reading DJTT, now it’s 2011 and I can’t live without my added Midi controllers.
This progression has keep the art fresh and interesting.
Just when I’d get to that point “been there done that”… BAM! some new next level gear comes out, and recharges the old Flux Capacitor.
It’s a very exciting time to be a Dj, for the most part if you can dream it, you can do it. If you study your craft, experiment and practice, the end result can be nothing but positive. It shouldn’t matter what tools get you to that point, as long as they work for you.
All in all if the end result is a “good professional product that will make the club money” how can any owner say no to that.
Unfortunately not everyone is well prepared when they hit the club, and that has made it difficult for those of us who do work hard.
This is nothing new and it was happening way before digital Djing was around. The key is to not be that person.
Prepare, practice and do your best the rest will come with time.

Started back 1993 with turntables added a sampler in 95, did the CDJ thing for a minute then dusted off the 1200’s in 06, and got Traktor Scratch in 08.
Right around that time I started reading DJTT, now it’s 2011 and I can’t live without my added Midi controllers.
This progression has keep the art fresh and interesting.
Just when I’d get to that point “been there done that”… BAM! some new next level gear comes out, and recharges the old Flux Capacitor.
It’s a very exciting time to be a Dj, for the most part if you can dream it, you can do it. If you study your craft, experiment and practice, the end result can be nothing but positive. It shouldn’t matter what tools get you to that point, as long as they work for you.
All in all if the end result is a “good professional product that will make the club money” how can any owner say no to that.
Unfortunately not everyone is well prepared when they hit the club, and that has made it difficult for those of us who do work hard.
This is nothing new and it was happening way before digital Djing was around. The key is to not be that person.
Prepare, practice and do your best the rest will come with time.

I totatlly agree with this article, and I get all the points of view, keep in mind people, the all this “Pro” who use new technict and new way to pley their music, yeah they do it like us, usisng controllers, but also keep in mind, then before they become pro, they used to play , like the old ways, Turntables, cdj, etc…. as far Promoters, I dont think most promoter care how you play the music, as far in how much $ profit you bring in to the club, but as far yes , unfortutaly it is a Tabu, even for people out the club scene, who stare of you just for the fact, then playing or better to said, ” Perform ” out a Computer, is not fucking cool…. well, if now is the awaking of digitalims of music performance, guys , like , well to mention, : Ean Golden, Dedalus, Jon Margelis, Moldover, and many, more…. this dudes are setting a standart, where , promoters like or not, in the new area of become a computer base performace… soooo yes, ……Who fuck in care!!!?????

I totatlly agree with this article, and I get all the points of view, keep in mind people, the all this “Pro” who use new technict and new way to pley their music, yeah they do it like us, usisng controllers, but also keep in mind, then before they become pro, they used to play , like the old ways, Turntables, cdj, etc…. as far Promoters, I dont think most promoter care how you play the music, as far in how much $ profit you bring in to the club, but as far yes , unfortutaly it is a Tabu, even for people out the club scene, who stare of you just for the fact, then playing or better to said, ” Perform ” out a Computer, is not fucking cool…. well, if now is the awaking of digitalims of music performance, guys , like , well to mention, : Ean Golden, Dedalus, Jon Margelis, Moldover, and many, more…. this dudes are setting a standart, where , promoters like or not, in the new area of become a computer base performace… soooo yes, ……Who fuck in care!!!?????

I totatlly agree with this article, and I get all the points of view, keep in mind people, the all this “Pro” who use new technict and new way to pley their music, yeah they do it like us, usisng controllers, but also keep in mind, then before they become pro, they used to play , like the old ways, Turntables, cdj, etc…. as far Promoters, I dont think most promoter care how you play the music, as far in how much $ profit you bring in to the club, but as far yes , unfortutaly it is a Tabu, even for people out the club scene, who stare of you just for the fact, then playing or better to said, ” Perform ” out a Computer, is not fucking cool…. well, if now is the awaking of digitalims of music performance, guys , like , well to mention, : Ean Golden, Dedalus, Jon Margelis, Moldover, and many, more…. this dudes are setting a standart, where , promoters like or not, in the new area of become a computer base performace… soooo yes, ……Who fuck in care!!!?????

Edit-”This progression has kept the art fresh and interesting.” -Sorry

Edit-”This progression has kept the art fresh and interesting.” -Sorry

Edit-”This progression has kept the art fresh and interesting.” -Sorry

I could not agree more with this article. I will add to more pro “pack the club” DJs to the list…Myon & Shane as well as Felguk which I saw live in Calgary this week and both used Ableton and controllers.

I could not agree more with this article. I will add to more pro “pack the club” DJs to the list…Myon & Shane as well as Felguk which I saw live in Calgary this week and both used Ableton and controllers.

I could not agree more with this article. I will add to more pro “pack the club” DJs to the list…Myon & Shane as well as Felguk which I saw live in Calgary this week and both used Ableton and controllers.

Skrillex, Bassnectar, Justice and Deadmau5 use controllers too but I’m not sure if they all use it as their main medium or in a supporting role.

Skrillex, Bassnectar, Justice and Deadmau5 use controllers too but I’m not sure if they all use it as their main medium or in a supporting role.

I understand that the dj world is turning more towards controllers but with this being said, any kid that buys a cotroller and with a week of experience and a sync button will be good enough for perform in a club. This will deff oversaturate the dj world which would leave ALOT of people without gigs due to how easy some software and controllers make djing. Its no longer a thing of skill but more of just being computer savy. This is coming from a guy that started with controllers and didnt feel a sense of being a “real dj” so I went back to a set of 1200 just to get that essence. Obviously i havent been in the dj game that long since i started with controllers but I feel that this day and age it is just to easy to call yourself a pro dj without having to put any effort into your sets. All these big name Djs using these tiny non-lavish controllers can do so because they have already made a big name for themselves, meaning they could dj with with a “spoon” and it would be cool. Thats just the way it is. But have you, they all started off on the “traditional” style of djing. To me djing is the art of playing and manipulating music but also the glam feature and the extravagance of it. And being seen with something that looks like a fisher price toy is not as stunning as spiining two turntables or cdjs…Its a cliche response I know and im very open minded and I understand both sides.

I understand that the dj world is turning more towards controllers but with this being said, any kid that buys a cotroller and with a week of experience and a sync button will be good enough for perform in a club. This will deff oversaturate the dj world which would leave ALOT of people without gigs due to how easy some software and controllers make djing. Its no longer a thing of skill but more of just being computer savy. This is coming from a guy that started with controllers and didnt feel a sense of being a “real dj” so I went back to a set of 1200 just to get that essence. Obviously i havent been in the dj game that long since i started with controllers but I feel that this day and age it is just to easy to call yourself a pro dj without having to put any effort into your sets. All these big name Djs using these tiny non-lavish controllers can do so because they have already made a big name for themselves, meaning they could dj with with a “spoon” and it would be cool. Thats just the way it is. But have you, they all started off on the “traditional” style of djing. To me djing is the art of playing and manipulating music but also the glam feature and the extravagance of it. And being seen with something that looks like a fisher price toy is not as stunning as spiining two turntables or cdjs…Its a cliche response I know and im very open minded and I understand both sides.

I understand that the dj world is turning more towards controllers but with this being said, any kid that buys a cotroller and with a week of experience and a sync button will be good enough for perform in a club. This will deff oversaturate the dj world which would leave ALOT of people without gigs due to how easy some software and controllers make djing. Its no longer a thing of skill but more of just being computer savy. This is coming from a guy that started with controllers and didnt feel a sense of being a “real dj” so I went back to a set of 1200 just to get that essence. Obviously i havent been in the dj game that long since i started with controllers but I feel that this day and age it is just to easy to call yourself a pro dj without having to put any effort into your sets. All these big name Djs using these tiny non-lavish controllers can do so because they have already made a big name for themselves, meaning they could dj with with a “spoon” and it would be cool. Thats just the way it is. But have you, they all started off on the “traditional” style of djing. To me djing is the art of playing and manipulating music but also the glam feature and the extravagance of it. And being seen with something that looks like a fisher price toy is not as stunning as spiining two turntables or cdjs…Its a cliche response I know and im very open minded and I understand both sides.

Yo, Teluan where are you in Calgary? We’re using controllers at our shows at 1410 on Tuesdays. I’m in the DJ comp at Sal’s this Saturday, come by and say hi. BTW my name is Steve V.

Yo, Teluan where are you in Calgary? We’re using controllers at our shows at 1410 on Tuesdays. I’m in the DJ comp at Sal’s this Saturday, come by and say hi. BTW my name is Steve V.

Yo, Teluan where are you in Calgary? We’re using controllers at our shows at 1410 on Tuesdays. I’m in the DJ comp at Sal’s this Saturday, come by and say hi. BTW my name is Steve V.

Hey, to each and there own I say. But put me down on the old school 1200′s list for this O.G. DJ please. Yes – I admit I use Serato, even dare I say added an Akai LPD8 to the fold… but IMO there’s nothing sexier than a pair of 1200′s spinning away in a club and DJ who knows how to work them. Besides, when drunk girls are in the booth what do think is the first thing they do??? They put their hands on the platter and go back & forth while giggling.. Think they would do that with just an X1 in there? I think not. Hell the LPD8 lights up and everything too,,,, but fails to get any response.

Hey, to each and there own I say. But put me down on the old school 1200′s list for this O.G. DJ please. Yes – I admit I use Serato, even dare I say added an Akai LPD8 to the fold… but IMO there’s nothing sexier than a pair of 1200′s spinning away in a club and DJ who knows how to work them. Besides, when drunk girls are in the booth what do think is the first thing they do??? They put their hands on the platter and go back & forth while giggling.. Think they would do that with just an X1 in there? I think not. Hell the LPD8 lights up and everything too,,,, but fails to get any response.

Hey, to each and there own I say. But put me down on the old school 1200′s list for this O.G. DJ please. Yes – I admit I use Serato, even dare I say added an Akai LPD8 to the fold… but IMO there’s nothing sexier than a pair of 1200′s spinning away in a club and DJ who knows how to work them. Besides, when drunk girls are in the booth what do think is the first thing they do??? They put their hands on the platter and go back & forth while giggling.. Think they would do that with just an X1 in there? I think not. Hell the LPD8 lights up and everything too,,,, but fails to get any response.

a very encouraging post, thank you

a very encouraging post, thank you

a very encouraging post, thank you

They have earned the rite to “pseudo DJ” in ableton. Through being GOOD PRODUCERS

No one books skrillex and mouse boy because they are elite amazing crazy good “professional DJ’s”

They are booked because they are leading producers in their genre.. triggering quantized tracks in ableton doesnt make skrillex a DJ.

Having said that the controller is the EASIEST way for a producer who doesnt DJ to jump into headlining.

They have earned the rite to “pseudo DJ” in ableton. Through being GOOD PRODUCERS

No one books skrillex and mouse boy because they are elite amazing crazy good “professional DJ’s”

They are booked because they are leading producers in their genre.. triggering quantized tracks in ableton doesnt make skrillex a DJ.

Having said that the controller is the EASIEST way for a producer who doesnt DJ to jump into headlining.

They have earned the rite to “pseudo DJ” in ableton. Through being GOOD PRODUCERS

No one books skrillex and mouse boy because they are elite amazing crazy good “professional DJ’s”

They are booked because they are leading producers in their genre.. triggering quantized tracks in ableton doesnt make skrillex a DJ.

Having said that the controller is the EASIEST way for a producer who doesnt DJ to jump into headlining.

Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van buuren, Roger Shah the list goes on and on :D

Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van buuren, Roger Shah the list goes on and on :D

Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van buuren, Roger Shah the list goes on and on :D

Well put, applause! For the record I use both and love it, but controllers and software has stepped my game up so much, its really helped me feel much more like an artist. Well played! Cheers!

Well put, applause! For the record I use both and love it, but controllers and software has stepped my game up so much, its really helped me feel much more like an artist. Well played! Cheers!

Well put, applause! For the record I use both and love it, but controllers and software has stepped my game up so much, its really helped me feel much more like an artist. Well played! Cheers!

well, i was just stating, didnt mean to come out as a brat or somthing. i just wanted to be known though lol.. and im not a child im 20 yrs old lol… and my dad still considers me his little boy and we just like to mess around and stuff is all… glad you understand though. ^_^

well, i was just stating, didnt mean to come out as a brat or somthing. i just wanted to be known though lol.. and im not a child im 20 yrs old lol… and my dad still considers me his little boy and we just like to mess around and stuff is all… glad you understand though. ^_^

well, i was just stating, didnt mean to come out as a brat or somthing. i just wanted to be known though lol.. and im not a child im 20 yrs old lol… and my dad still considers me his little boy and we just like to mess around and stuff is all… glad you understand though. ^_^

“Dear Mr. I-Live-Under-A-Rock Club Owner

While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

99% of people who play on controllers are NOT famous/booked for their great unique performance ability but they are booked for a skillset that has NOTHING to do with DJ’ing. production.

If your gonna drop names to a promoter like that to explain your swagger you better show up and put on a quality performance.
2 – 3channel mixxing on your next generation gear = isnt quality

Triggering quantized acapellas or percussion loops over a track doesnt make you a “controllerist” or put you in a category with any of those people

If your Demo tape was good enough I doubt those people who emailed you would be going through this.

I’d rather listen to listen to a track unaffected as a the DJ beatmatchs then listen to someone who cant beatmatch hit sync and fat finger mash the instant gratification mapping out of time all night.

“Dear Mr. I-Live-Under-A-Rock Club Owner

While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

99% of people who play on controllers are NOT famous/booked for their great unique performance ability but they are booked for a skillset that has NOTHING to do with DJ’ing. production.

If your gonna drop names to a promoter like that to explain your swagger you better show up and put on a quality performance.
2 – 3channel mixxing on your next generation gear = isnt quality

Triggering quantized acapellas or percussion loops over a track doesnt make you a “controllerist” or put you in a category with any of those people

If your Demo tape was good enough I doubt those people who emailed you would be going through this.

I’d rather listen to listen to a track unaffected as a the DJ beatmatchs then listen to someone who cant beatmatch hit sync and fat finger mash the instant gratification mapping out of time all night.

“Dear Mr. I-Live-Under-A-Rock Club Owner

While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

99% of people who play on controllers are NOT famous/booked for their great unique performance ability but they are booked for a skillset that has NOTHING to do with DJ’ing. production.

If your gonna drop names to a promoter like that to explain your swagger you better show up and put on a quality performance.
2 – 3channel mixxing on your next generation gear = isnt quality

Triggering quantized acapellas or percussion loops over a track doesnt make you a “controllerist” or put you in a category with any of those people

If your Demo tape was good enough I doubt those people who emailed you would be going through this.

I’d rather listen to listen to a track unaffected as a the DJ beatmatchs then listen to someone who cant beatmatch hit sync and fat finger mash the instant gratification mapping out of time all night.

I disagree with this post.

If I ask all of my fellow DJ buds out there what gives them the most gratification from DJing they, without fail, respond with something along the lines of “making peeps move”. So.. even if you’re just starting out as a bedroom dj… at some point, you’re gonna want to represent in a club for you peeps and the music you love..

Now, its wrong for club owners to reject talent because they don’t use turntables or CDJ’s.. But, understand that if some bloke rocks up to the club with a shitty controller, interface, or whatever – and the system sounds awful as a result, then you know what will happen; peeps will blame the sound on the actual venue instead of the true cause. Then the venue gets a bad reputation. So you see.. having an extraneous amount of shitty equipment on the market will only cause more and more rejections of alternative methods of DJing by club owners.

It is for these reasons that I counter the premise of this article to suggest that the ‘Club Standard’ is the correct method by which to measure all DJ / live performance related equipment.

Cheers y’all

I disagree with this post.

If I ask all of my fellow DJ buds out there what gives them the most gratification from DJing they, without fail, respond with something along the lines of “making peeps move”. So.. even if you’re just starting out as a bedroom dj… at some point, you’re gonna want to represent in a club for you peeps and the music you love..

Now, its wrong for club owners to reject talent because they don’t use turntables or CDJ’s.. But, understand that if some bloke rocks up to the club with a shitty controller, interface, or whatever – and the system sounds awful as a result, then you know what will happen; peeps will blame the sound on the actual venue instead of the true cause. Then the venue gets a bad reputation. So you see.. having an extraneous amount of shitty equipment on the market will only cause more and more rejections of alternative methods of DJing by club owners.

It is for these reasons that I counter the premise of this article to suggest that the ‘Club Standard’ is the correct method by which to measure all DJ / live performance related equipment.

Cheers y’all

I disagree with this post.

If I ask all of my fellow DJ buds out there what gives them the most gratification from DJing they, without fail, respond with something along the lines of “making peeps move”. So.. even if you’re just starting out as a bedroom dj… at some point, you’re gonna want to represent in a club for you peeps and the music you love..

Now, its wrong for club owners to reject talent because they don’t use turntables or CDJ’s.. But, understand that if some bloke rocks up to the club with a shitty controller, interface, or whatever – and the system sounds awful as a result, then you know what will happen; peeps will blame the sound on the actual venue instead of the true cause. Then the venue gets a bad reputation. So you see.. having an extraneous amount of shitty equipment on the market will only cause more and more rejections of alternative methods of DJing by club owners.

It is for these reasons that I counter the premise of this article to suggest that the ‘Club Standard’ is the correct method by which to measure all DJ / live performance related equipment.

Cheers y’all

“If it makes you uncomfortable, then it’s art”

And that’s why you play electro-house/Queen mash-ups?

“If it makes you uncomfortable, then it’s art”

And that’s why you play electro-house/Queen mash-ups?

“If it makes you uncomfortable, then it’s art”

And that’s why you play electro-house/Queen mash-ups?

EAN I TOOK SOME OF UR STUFF AND RAN WITH IT!
To my fellow DJs: at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if a technology or style of music would ever “work in a club”. What matters is how much you enjoy it. How much satisfaction and personal expression you’re able to realize through the medium whether its vinyl, cdj, controllers or just a mouse and a keyboard. Music should unite us not push us apart and conjure up petty arguments about which tech is better; thats like saying a spoon is better than a fork or a fork is better than a spoon.

EAN I TOOK SOME OF UR STUFF AND RAN WITH IT!
To my fellow DJs: at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if a technology or style of music would ever “work in a club”. What matters is how much you enjoy it. How much satisfaction and personal expression you’re able to realize through the medium whether its vinyl, cdj, controllers or just a mouse and a keyboard. Music should unite us not push us apart and conjure up petty arguments about which tech is better; thats like saying a spoon is better than a fork or a fork is better than a spoon.

EAN I TOOK SOME OF UR STUFF AND RAN WITH IT!
To my fellow DJs: at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if a technology or style of music would ever “work in a club”. What matters is how much you enjoy it. How much satisfaction and personal expression you’re able to realize through the medium whether its vinyl, cdj, controllers or just a mouse and a keyboard. Music should unite us not push us apart and conjure up petty arguments about which tech is better; thats like saying a spoon is better than a fork or a fork is better than a spoon.

Don’t forget Sasha!

Don’t forget Sasha!

Don’t forget Sasha!

I can say I have mad respect for the guys that use the traditional mediums… I started when PCDJ first hit… When the sync button wasn’t really a sync button as it is understood now… It would match BPM’s for you, but only if it was analyzed correctly, or else you were stuck constantly adjusting through the mix which would sound horrible. Just the act of beat matching can be a job on turntables/CDJ’s…

With that being said I think the controllerist movement is something completely different… The way I look at it isn’t about just mixing from one song to another but doing so in a way that actually sounds GOOD… It has been said a million times that a kid with some decent computer knowledge and access to a sync button can dj… but without some proper knowledge of music itself, they can sync and mix all they want but many of their mixes will sound like shit. Being able to seamlessly mix two – three songs together while keeping everything harmonically smooth and still controlling the dancefloor is my idea of a professional DJ… This isn’t to mention the ability to work effects through a track in a proper way that doesn’t make the crowd look at you like you’re nuts…

And in response to Dur… I can agree with you to the point that a kid hitting his sync button and working effects “out of time” is not in any way a professional dj. As to everything else you had to say in your prophetic post… Stop fuckin hating. Period. You don’t like the controllerist movement, stay away from controllerist sites. If you’re all about 1200′s and CDJ’s, God bless you. You most likely have a great talent and nobody can hate on you for that. If on the off chance you are just some stupid shit who likes to follow the DJ/Club world, get your head out of your ass… People come here to learn, and share knowledge about these new technologies, not talk shit because they don’t like them.

To everyone else who has read this, I apologize for the outburst. But ignorant people like that really piss me off.

Just my .02

I can say I have mad respect for the guys that use the traditional mediums… I started when PCDJ first hit… When the sync button wasn’t really a sync button as it is understood now… It would match BPM’s for you, but only if it was analyzed correctly, or else you were stuck constantly adjusting through the mix which would sound horrible. Just the act of beat matching can be a job on turntables/CDJ’s…

With that being said I think the controllerist movement is something completely different… The way I look at it isn’t about just mixing from one song to another but doing so in a way that actually sounds GOOD… It has been said a million times that a kid with some decent computer knowledge and access to a sync button can dj… but without some proper knowledge of music itself, they can sync and mix all they want but many of their mixes will sound like shit. Being able to seamlessly mix two – three songs together while keeping everything harmonically smooth and still controlling the dancefloor is my idea of a professional DJ… This isn’t to mention the ability to work effects through a track in a proper way that doesn’t make the crowd look at you like you’re nuts…

And in response to Dur… I can agree with you to the point that a kid hitting his sync button and working effects “out of time” is not in any way a professional dj. As to everything else you had to say in your prophetic post… Stop fuckin hating. Period. You don’t like the controllerist movement, stay away from controllerist sites. If you’re all about 1200′s and CDJ’s, God bless you. You most likely have a great talent and nobody can hate on you for that. If on the off chance you are just some stupid shit who likes to follow the DJ/Club world, get your head out of your ass… People come here to learn, and share knowledge about these new technologies, not talk shit because they don’t like them.

To everyone else who has read this, I apologize for the outburst. But ignorant people like that really piss me off.

Just my .02

I can say I have mad respect for the guys that use the traditional mediums… I started when PCDJ first hit… When the sync button wasn’t really a sync button as it is understood now… It would match BPM’s for you, but only if it was analyzed correctly, or else you were stuck constantly adjusting through the mix which would sound horrible. Just the act of beat matching can be a job on turntables/CDJ’s…

With that being said I think the controllerist movement is something completely different… The way I look at it isn’t about just mixing from one song to another but doing so in a way that actually sounds GOOD… It has been said a million times that a kid with some decent computer knowledge and access to a sync button can dj… but without some proper knowledge of music itself, they can sync and mix all they want but many of their mixes will sound like shit. Being able to seamlessly mix two – three songs together while keeping everything harmonically smooth and still controlling the dancefloor is my idea of a professional DJ… This isn’t to mention the ability to work effects through a track in a proper way that doesn’t make the crowd look at you like you’re nuts…

And in response to Dur… I can agree with you to the point that a kid hitting his sync button and working effects “out of time” is not in any way a professional dj. As to everything else you had to say in your prophetic post… Stop fuckin hating. Period. You don’t like the controllerist movement, stay away from controllerist sites. If you’re all about 1200′s and CDJ’s, God bless you. You most likely have a great talent and nobody can hate on you for that. If on the off chance you are just some stupid shit who likes to follow the DJ/Club world, get your head out of your ass… People come here to learn, and share knowledge about these new technologies, not talk shit because they don’t like them.

To everyone else who has read this, I apologize for the outburst. But ignorant people like that really piss me off.

Just my .02

Oh yea… another name for the list…

Glitch Mob

I know they’re not Club DJ’s… But the extent at which they use all of their controllers and put on such a crazy show should count for something…

Oh yea… another name for the list…

Glitch Mob

I know they’re not Club DJ’s… But the extent at which they use all of their controllers and put on such a crazy show should count for something…

Oh yea… another name for the list…

Glitch Mob

I know they’re not Club DJ’s… But the extent at which they use all of their controllers and put on such a crazy show should count for something…

Hey, I’m in Lethbridge. I’m definitely in the consumer camp of DJ gear consumers, but if you want to get in touch on Facebook or whatever, we have electronic music groups and things that you should get involved in. It’s always nice to network at least. I’m Andrew Garlock at the U of L.

Hey, I’m in Lethbridge. I’m definitely in the consumer camp of DJ gear consumers, but if you want to get in touch on Facebook or whatever, we have electronic music groups and things that you should get involved in. It’s always nice to network at least. I’m Andrew Garlock at the U of L.

Hey, I’m in Lethbridge. I’m definitely in the consumer camp of DJ gear consumers, but if you want to get in touch on Facebook or whatever, we have electronic music groups and things that you should get involved in. It’s always nice to network at least. I’m Andrew Garlock at the U of L.

Sasha also uses controllers extensively. This is a little older, but it shows him with the custom Ableton controller he had built: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMmdG0_I6P4

Sasha also uses controllers extensively. This is a little older, but it shows him with the custom Ableton controller he had built: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMmdG0_I6P4

Sasha also uses controllers extensively. This is a little older, but it shows him with the custom Ableton controller he had built: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMmdG0_I6P4

The only thing that matters is the crowd’s reaction to what you are doing. Period. The real problem is people DJing to get “Drunk Chicks” in the booth.

Digital DJing is pushing innovation and creativity, and the medium you use to get the crowd going doesn’t mean shit.

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

The only thing that matters is the crowd’s reaction to what you are doing. Period. The real problem is people DJing to get “Drunk Chicks” in the booth.

Digital DJing is pushing innovation and creativity, and the medium you use to get the crowd going doesn’t mean shit.

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

The only thing that matters is the crowd’s reaction to what you are doing. Period. The real problem is people DJing to get “Drunk Chicks” in the booth.

Digital DJing is pushing innovation and creativity, and the medium you use to get the crowd going doesn’t mean shit.

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

Dylan Rhymes also rocks Traktor with a pair of Kontrol X1′s.

Dylan Rhymes also rocks Traktor with a pair of Kontrol X1′s.

Dylan Rhymes also rocks Traktor with a pair of Kontrol X1′s.

GREAT post!

GREAT post!

GREAT post!

lazrtag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6TKZHPbFjA

lazrtag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6TKZHPbFjA

lazrtag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6TKZHPbFjA

I’m not going to bash you, but don’t you think that this saturation of Dj’s will force the “pro-DJ’s” to really step up their game and do something that sets them apart?

Instead of getting them out of business, i honestly think it’ll just force them to improve their quality of DJ’ing – add more twists to their music

I’m not going to bash you, but don’t you think that this saturation of Dj’s will force the “pro-DJ’s” to really step up their game and do something that sets them apart?

Instead of getting them out of business, i honestly think it’ll just force them to improve their quality of DJ’ing – add more twists to their music

I’m not going to bash you, but don’t you think that this saturation of Dj’s will force the “pro-DJ’s” to really step up their game and do something that sets them apart?

Instead of getting them out of business, i honestly think it’ll just force them to improve their quality of DJ’ing – add more twists to their music

All those names people are throwing about.. They are well established artists with a proven name, and guaranteed crowd pulling capacity. I imagine, at this point, if Deadmau5 wanted to play off an iPhone the promoters would still book. A world of difference from a local turning up and wanting to rearrange the DJ booth because he can only perform on his system.

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

Watch a guy who has never played without a monitor dealing with a rubbish PA for a great example of this.

All those names people are throwing about.. They are well established artists with a proven name, and guaranteed crowd pulling capacity. I imagine, at this point, if Deadmau5 wanted to play off an iPhone the promoters would still book. A world of difference from a local turning up and wanting to rearrange the DJ booth because he can only perform on his system.

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

Watch a guy who has never played without a monitor dealing with a rubbish PA for a great example of this.

All those names people are throwing about.. They are well established artists with a proven name, and guaranteed crowd pulling capacity. I imagine, at this point, if Deadmau5 wanted to play off an iPhone the promoters would still book. A world of difference from a local turning up and wanting to rearrange the DJ booth because he can only perform on his system.

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

Watch a guy who has never played without a monitor dealing with a rubbish PA for a great example of this.

The club owner doesn’t care what you are playing on. The club owner just doesn’t want people messing with the gear that already works, and doesn’t want to deal with silence in a club when it doesn’t.

The club owner doesn’t care what you are playing on. The club owner just doesn’t want people messing with the gear that already works, and doesn’t want to deal with silence in a club when it doesn’t.

The club owner doesn’t care what you are playing on. The club owner just doesn’t want people messing with the gear that already works, and doesn’t want to deal with silence in a club when it doesn’t.

heh, I was about to post something in the forum earlier in the week about how I’ve run up against people telling me I need to spend another 700 on CDJ’s (after spending over a grand on my S4 + other equipment) so I can practice to play in a club because they “want to keep the talent high.” Now look, I’ve only been DJing for a few months, and I might be a shit DJ, but it won’t ever be the equipment I use that gives that away. Granted I’m thinking of buying a pair of turntables and some timecoded vinyl because I like the look and feel but that’s own my own terms, not because some snobby promoter/DJ told me to.

On the other hand, when you bring a controller to the club and you’re NOT going to be spending half your time beat matching (because why would you want to spend your time on something so technical and boring?) you better be able to do something even better with your free time. Whether that be creating killer buildups, sweeps, and throwing in appropriate effects, mashing up songs on the fly and rocking 3-4 decks at once and sounding GREAT, or simply interacting more with the crowd, there has to be SOMETHING you do that makes you stand out. If you’re going to mix in and out at the end of the songs and let the computer beatmatch for you, I don’t blame someone for being hesitant to pay you for something a sophisticated ipod could do.

The point is that respect is earned, not given. Having a killer demo and performing a set that no one could on CDJ’s and a traditional mixer is something that is a prerequisite when you use a controller and software. You should be constantly looking to push your artform and how your perform. Take for instance DJ Shiftee’s performances or DJ Craze in the Tpro2 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msdFDCcdwaA). That shit inspires me because of how they are PUSHING their art using new technology.

heh, I was about to post something in the forum earlier in the week about how I’ve run up against people telling me I need to spend another 700 on CDJ’s (after spending over a grand on my S4 + other equipment) so I can practice to play in a club because they “want to keep the talent high.” Now look, I’ve only been DJing for a few months, and I might be a shit DJ, but it won’t ever be the equipment I use that gives that away. Granted I’m thinking of buying a pair of turntables and some timecoded vinyl because I like the look and feel but that’s own my own terms, not because some snobby promoter/DJ told me to.

On the other hand, when you bring a controller to the club and you’re NOT going to be spending half your time beat matching (because why would you want to spend your time on something so technical and boring?) you better be able to do something even better with your free time. Whether that be creating killer buildups, sweeps, and throwing in appropriate effects, mashing up songs on the fly and rocking 3-4 decks at once and sounding GREAT, or simply interacting more with the crowd, there has to be SOMETHING you do that makes you stand out. If you’re going to mix in and out at the end of the songs and let the computer beatmatch for you, I don’t blame someone for being hesitant to pay you for something a sophisticated ipod could do.

The point is that respect is earned, not given. Having a killer demo and performing a set that no one could on CDJ’s and a traditional mixer is something that is a prerequisite when you use a controller and software. You should be constantly looking to push your artform and how your perform. Take for instance DJ Shiftee’s performances or DJ Craze in the Tpro2 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msdFDCcdwaA). That shit inspires me because of how they are PUSHING their art using new technology.

heh, I was about to post something in the forum earlier in the week about how I’ve run up against people telling me I need to spend another 700 on CDJ’s (after spending over a grand on my S4 + other equipment) so I can practice to play in a club because they “want to keep the talent high.” Now look, I’ve only been DJing for a few months, and I might be a shit DJ, but it won’t ever be the equipment I use that gives that away. Granted I’m thinking of buying a pair of turntables and some timecoded vinyl because I like the look and feel but that’s own my own terms, not because some snobby promoter/DJ told me to.

On the other hand, when you bring a controller to the club and you’re NOT going to be spending half your time beat matching (because why would you want to spend your time on something so technical and boring?) you better be able to do something even better with your free time. Whether that be creating killer buildups, sweeps, and throwing in appropriate effects, mashing up songs on the fly and rocking 3-4 decks at once and sounding GREAT, or simply interacting more with the crowd, there has to be SOMETHING you do that makes you stand out. If you’re going to mix in and out at the end of the songs and let the computer beatmatch for you, I don’t blame someone for being hesitant to pay you for something a sophisticated ipod could do.

The point is that respect is earned, not given. Having a killer demo and performing a set that no one could on CDJ’s and a traditional mixer is something that is a prerequisite when you use a controller and software. You should be constantly looking to push your artform and how your perform. Take for instance DJ Shiftee’s performances or DJ Craze in the Tpro2 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msdFDCcdwaA). That shit inspires me because of how they are PUSHING their art using new technology.

I prefer to drop samples and effects then wasting my time beatmatching.. is overrated and old.

I prefer to drop samples and effects then wasting my time beatmatching.. is overrated and old.

I prefer to drop samples and effects then wasting my time beatmatching.. is overrated and old.

thats somewhat ignorant… it’s deadmau5 who quoted this: http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/intl/40291/Deadmau5_calls_DJs_fcking_cnts
dj’ing is not technically difficult… really… it isn’t… deadmau5 does a great job in that, he even does a lot more than a normal dj, there are very very few famous dj’s by only their skills, practically all big producers are big dj’s, that kind of means that any big producer can become a respectable dj…

thats somewhat ignorant… it’s deadmau5 who quoted this: http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/intl/40291/Deadmau5_calls_DJs_fcking_cnts
dj’ing is not technically difficult… really… it isn’t… deadmau5 does a great job in that, he even does a lot more than a normal dj, there are very very few famous dj’s by only their skills, practically all big producers are big dj’s, that kind of means that any big producer can become a respectable dj…

thats somewhat ignorant… it’s deadmau5 who quoted this: http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/intl/40291/Deadmau5_calls_DJs_fcking_cnts
dj’ing is not technically difficult… really… it isn’t… deadmau5 does a great job in that, he even does a lot more than a normal dj, there are very very few famous dj’s by only their skills, practically all big producers are big dj’s, that kind of means that any big producer can become a respectable dj…

beatmatching is easy, using effects correctly, choosing the correcct music, and using the right effects/creative transitions is the true art

beatmatching is easy, using effects correctly, choosing the correcct music, and using the right effects/creative transitions is the true art

beatmatching is easy, using effects correctly, choosing the correcct music, and using the right effects/creative transitions is the true art

Great article Ean.

I guess the question is – Do you wanna continue to push the musical culture you are part of forwards, or do wanna be a very fancy jukebox? In my opinion there’s no wrong answer, there’s a need for both types of DJ in the world and the two can happily co-exist.

The masses will always need entertaining (and be willing to pay for it) and most musical innovations come from those who have gone against the grain and just done what feels right to them – like say, Q-Bert,the Piklz and other turntablists did, or like all the different MCs did at The Good Life Cafe.

These two sides have always been there in music – in jazz, Be-Bop originated though after-hours jam sessions at Mintons after players like Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Christian had finished their paid gigs in the Swing bands which were popular with masses in the dancehalls of the time.

Great article Ean.

I guess the question is – Do you wanna continue to push the musical culture you are part of forwards, or do wanna be a very fancy jukebox? In my opinion there’s no wrong answer, there’s a need for both types of DJ in the world and the two can happily co-exist.

The masses will always need entertaining (and be willing to pay for it) and most musical innovations come from those who have gone against the grain and just done what feels right to them – like say, Q-Bert,the Piklz and other turntablists did, or like all the different MCs did at The Good Life Cafe.

These two sides have always been there in music – in jazz, Be-Bop originated though after-hours jam sessions at Mintons after players like Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Christian had finished their paid gigs in the Swing bands which were popular with masses in the dancehalls of the time.

Great article Ean.

I guess the question is – Do you wanna continue to push the musical culture you are part of forwards, or do wanna be a very fancy jukebox? In my opinion there’s no wrong answer, there’s a need for both types of DJ in the world and the two can happily co-exist.

The masses will always need entertaining (and be willing to pay for it) and most musical innovations come from those who have gone against the grain and just done what feels right to them – like say, Q-Bert,the Piklz and other turntablists did, or like all the different MCs did at The Good Life Cafe.

These two sides have always been there in music – in jazz, Be-Bop originated though after-hours jam sessions at Mintons after players like Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Christian had finished their paid gigs in the Swing bands which were popular with masses in the dancehalls of the time.

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Yep beatmatching is super easy, usually takes about 15-25 seconds, so why are all these guys opposed to doing it? especially when it adds the human element to your mix.

Yep beatmatching is super easy, usually takes about 15-25 seconds, so why are all these guys opposed to doing it? especially when it adds the human element to your mix.

Yep beatmatching is super easy, usually takes about 15-25 seconds, so why are all these guys opposed to doing it? especially when it adds the human element to your mix.

if beatmatching is taking you longer than 30 or so seconds, you aren’t beatmatching well. and practicing really does cut your time.

having said that…
Do you really play tracks that arent good enough to be played by themselves for 30 seconds? 30 seconds out of your knob swinging time is just too much? Can I hear how you keep it so interesting and progressive all night that you dont have 30 seconds per tune??

if beatmatching is taking you longer than 30 or so seconds, you aren’t beatmatching well. and practicing really does cut your time.

having said that…
Do you really play tracks that arent good enough to be played by themselves for 30 seconds? 30 seconds out of your knob swinging time is just too much? Can I hear how you keep it so interesting and progressive all night that you dont have 30 seconds per tune??

if beatmatching is taking you longer than 30 or so seconds, you aren’t beatmatching well. and practicing really does cut your time.

having said that…
Do you really play tracks that arent good enough to be played by themselves for 30 seconds? 30 seconds out of your knob swinging time is just too much? Can I hear how you keep it so interesting and progressive all night that you dont have 30 seconds per tune??

your right about mouse, he play his tracks pretty much live and actually have a performance element on the 4D with his progression and whatnot all being on the fly. I geuss i can’t lump him into that category.

your right about mouse, he play his tracks pretty much live and actually have a performance element on the 4D with his progression and whatnot all being on the fly. I geuss i can’t lump him into that category.

your right about mouse, he play his tracks pretty much live and actually have a performance element on the 4D with his progression and whatnot all being on the fly. I geuss i can’t lump him into that category.

A topic that has arose is “beat matching”, with Trakter you are not doing that so in turn you are cheating. How so? I met a DJ last night who while using the S4 chose to manually beat match his songs, great for him, however doing so does not make someone a better DJ/performer then the next. When I choose to use the master clock to beat match for me, it frees my time up to become more creative, to pull samples, to add effects, use the Midifighter, for an end result to only improve the listeners experience and my love of the music.

With all the above comments, experiences and reluctant individuals out there, the time of controllerism has become more apparent, but with it will come ignorance, hold your head high and say we have something great going on here.

A topic that has arose is “beat matching”, with Trakter you are not doing that so in turn you are cheating. How so? I met a DJ last night who while using the S4 chose to manually beat match his songs, great for him, however doing so does not make someone a better DJ/performer then the next. When I choose to use the master clock to beat match for me, it frees my time up to become more creative, to pull samples, to add effects, use the Midifighter, for an end result to only improve the listeners experience and my love of the music.

With all the above comments, experiences and reluctant individuals out there, the time of controllerism has become more apparent, but with it will come ignorance, hold your head high and say we have something great going on here.

A topic that has arose is “beat matching”, with Trakter you are not doing that so in turn you are cheating. How so? I met a DJ last night who while using the S4 chose to manually beat match his songs, great for him, however doing so does not make someone a better DJ/performer then the next. When I choose to use the master clock to beat match for me, it frees my time up to become more creative, to pull samples, to add effects, use the Midifighter, for an end result to only improve the listeners experience and my love of the music.

With all the above comments, experiences and reluctant individuals out there, the time of controllerism has become more apparent, but with it will come ignorance, hold your head high and say we have something great going on here.

Dur I’m with you homie… First of all – beat matching is not easy! anybody who says that it is completely ignorant beyond belief. And if beat matching was so damn easy, why in the world do I hear countless DJ’s train wreck mix after mix, after mix. you know why??? because most of them are tone deaf, or don’t require the skills, or haven’t learned properly – or a mixture of all of them. and to say it’s old & overrated is preposterous. It’s a technic that will never get old. I’ll take smoothness & continuity over scratch in’s and 8bar quick drops all night any day of the week,

Dur I’m with you homie… First of all – beat matching is not easy! anybody who says that it is completely ignorant beyond belief. And if beat matching was so damn easy, why in the world do I hear countless DJ’s train wreck mix after mix, after mix. you know why??? because most of them are tone deaf, or don’t require the skills, or haven’t learned properly – or a mixture of all of them. and to say it’s old & overrated is preposterous. It’s a technic that will never get old. I’ll take smoothness & continuity over scratch in’s and 8bar quick drops all night any day of the week,

Dur I’m with you homie… First of all – beat matching is not easy! anybody who says that it is completely ignorant beyond belief. And if beat matching was so damn easy, why in the world do I hear countless DJ’s train wreck mix after mix, after mix. you know why??? because most of them are tone deaf, or don’t require the skills, or haven’t learned properly – or a mixture of all of them. and to say it’s old & overrated is preposterous. It’s a technic that will never get old. I’ll take smoothness & continuity over scratch in’s and 8bar quick drops all night any day of the week,

I just laugh when some turntable snob comes up to me and says something rude like “real DJ’s do their own beat matches”, or “I bet you can’t do what you just did on a turntable!”.

I’m CREATING my own sounds, samples, and effects and fusing these into snipets of other songs to make a new song. Instead of worrying about where my needle is, slow motor responses and scratched records; I’m building my own song on the spot with a controller I customized myself.

Give me a break. It’s like a VCR enthusiast lipping off to someone who is shooting an actual movie.

I just laugh when some turntable snob comes up to me and says something rude like “real DJ’s do their own beat matches”, or “I bet you can’t do what you just did on a turntable!”.

I’m CREATING my own sounds, samples, and effects and fusing these into snipets of other songs to make a new song. Instead of worrying about where my needle is, slow motor responses and scratched records; I’m building my own song on the spot with a controller I customized myself.

Give me a break. It’s like a VCR enthusiast lipping off to someone who is shooting an actual movie.

I just laugh when some turntable snob comes up to me and says something rude like “real DJ’s do their own beat matches”, or “I bet you can’t do what you just did on a turntable!”.

I’m CREATING my own sounds, samples, and effects and fusing these into snipets of other songs to make a new song. Instead of worrying about where my needle is, slow motor responses and scratched records; I’m building my own song on the spot with a controller I customized myself.

Give me a break. It’s like a VCR enthusiast lipping off to someone who is shooting an actual movie.

Justice
Daft Punk

Justice
Daft Punk

Justice
Daft Punk

Chris, the one thing I’ve learned is that even though we may not be DJ’s, the label, or name is still a powerful one. Being recognized as a “DJ” as opposed to a performer are very high laurels. If you go to a concert or a performance, and you said that you were a performer (and if you were one of the local acts that opened up for a headliner), you would probably be disregarded. But if you were to go up and mix for a while, come off stage and tell someone that you were one of the DJ’s, they would be in awe.

To most mixing is like a secret art, or something that you would move out to a monestary and study under some wise monk (Mr. Miyagi, anyone?). Thusly, you are regarded as a master of a secret art.

Just my thought.

Chris, the one thing I’ve learned is that even though we may not be DJ’s, the label, or name is still a powerful one. Being recognized as a “DJ” as opposed to a performer are very high laurels. If you go to a concert or a performance, and you said that you were a performer (and if you were one of the local acts that opened up for a headliner), you would probably be disregarded. But if you were to go up and mix for a while, come off stage and tell someone that you were one of the DJ’s, they would be in awe.

To most mixing is like a secret art, or something that you would move out to a monestary and study under some wise monk (Mr. Miyagi, anyone?). Thusly, you are regarded as a master of a secret art.

Just my thought.

Chris, the one thing I’ve learned is that even though we may not be DJ’s, the label, or name is still a powerful one. Being recognized as a “DJ” as opposed to a performer are very high laurels. If you go to a concert or a performance, and you said that you were a performer (and if you were one of the local acts that opened up for a headliner), you would probably be disregarded. But if you were to go up and mix for a while, come off stage and tell someone that you were one of the DJ’s, they would be in awe.

To most mixing is like a secret art, or something that you would move out to a monestary and study under some wise monk (Mr. Miyagi, anyone?). Thusly, you are regarded as a master of a secret art.

Just my thought.

“if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed.”

Yep thats the difference between A real “DJ” and a kid who thinks he is elite controllerist DJ 10k

A real DJ can step up at any venue club/house/party/whatever and rock any set of gear. ANY CDJ, ANY shitty lil turntable that might be there, serato no serato traktor no traktor ETC ETC, they just play and do it well.

Where as alot of these kids with controllers now in days cant step up. its that simple, they cannot step up without having exactly the one piece of gear and setup they want. How fucking inconvient is that all around? terribly. I love just showing up and ending up playing having not planned too. Controller kids usually cant improv or “grab out of the bag” and if they are someone elses CD’s they wont even TRY. they just admit they cant do it and refuse like chumps.

“if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed.”

Yep thats the difference between A real “DJ” and a kid who thinks he is elite controllerist DJ 10k

A real DJ can step up at any venue club/house/party/whatever and rock any set of gear. ANY CDJ, ANY shitty lil turntable that might be there, serato no serato traktor no traktor ETC ETC, they just play and do it well.

Where as alot of these kids with controllers now in days cant step up. its that simple, they cannot step up without having exactly the one piece of gear and setup they want. How fucking inconvient is that all around? terribly. I love just showing up and ending up playing having not planned too. Controller kids usually cant improv or “grab out of the bag” and if they are someone elses CD’s they wont even TRY. they just admit they cant do it and refuse like chumps.

“if i showed up at a club and there was any CDJ and any mixer, i KNOW i could rock that venue. what about controllers? if your set was built around an S4 but the club had a A&H, you would probably be screwed.”

Yep thats the difference between A real “DJ” and a kid who thinks he is elite controllerist DJ 10k

A real DJ can step up at any venue club/house/party/whatever and rock any set of gear. ANY CDJ, ANY shitty lil turntable that might be there, serato no serato traktor no traktor ETC ETC, they just play and do it well.

Where as alot of these kids with controllers now in days cant step up. its that simple, they cannot step up without having exactly the one piece of gear and setup they want. How fucking inconvient is that all around? terribly. I love just showing up and ending up playing having not planned too. Controller kids usually cant improv or “grab out of the bag” and if they are someone elses CD’s they wont even TRY. they just admit they cant do it and refuse like chumps.

Honestly Guys I dont think it really matter what you play with. Myself i rock turntables it works for me someone else it may not work for them. It almost feels like we are all being to consumed with the equipment and not as much with djing in general. Its like if i buy this controller or this mixer i’ll be a better dj. It just doesn’t hold up, i feel what ever you choose to play with should work for you. We all got into djing for the love of music lets remember that. Equipment doesn’t always make you better hard working and learning from mistakes is where you see your gains

Honestly Guys I dont think it really matter what you play with. Myself i rock turntables it works for me someone else it may not work for them. It almost feels like we are all being to consumed with the equipment and not as much with djing in general. Its like if i buy this controller or this mixer i’ll be a better dj. It just doesn’t hold up, i feel what ever you choose to play with should work for you. We all got into djing for the love of music lets remember that. Equipment doesn’t always make you better hard working and learning from mistakes is where you see your gains

Honestly Guys I dont think it really matter what you play with. Myself i rock turntables it works for me someone else it may not work for them. It almost feels like we are all being to consumed with the equipment and not as much with djing in general. Its like if i buy this controller or this mixer i’ll be a better dj. It just doesn’t hold up, i feel what ever you choose to play with should work for you. We all got into djing for the love of music lets remember that. Equipment doesn’t always make you better hard working and learning from mistakes is where you see your gains

a-trak is a dj that stands out for me who has for a long time now been reliant on serato to dj with and in dark fantasy by kanye west he actually refers to dj’s using serato

a-trak is a dj that stands out for me who has for a long time now been reliant on serato to dj with and in dark fantasy by kanye west he actually refers to dj’s using serato

a-trak is a dj that stands out for me who has for a long time now been reliant on serato to dj with and in dark fantasy by kanye west he actually refers to dj’s using serato

Because you can spend those 15-25 seconds for your pure creativity, while a software syncs for you.

Because you can spend those 15-25 seconds for your pure creativity, while a software syncs for you.

Because you can spend those 15-25 seconds for your pure creativity, while a software syncs for you.

As I kept getting older I found it more difficult carrying all them records through some convincing and some marvelous things I saw done with Denon dn-f2000 and cdj 500 I was astounded and was happy with the fact no more carrying the wait.

It wasn’t much longer till I got hooked on final scratch and it just went from there. With technology the way it is I am always trying to push the envelope. And personally more djs/producers should really look into it.

As I kept getting older I found it more difficult carrying all them records through some convincing and some marvelous things I saw done with Denon dn-f2000 and cdj 500 I was astounded and was happy with the fact no more carrying the wait.

It wasn’t much longer till I got hooked on final scratch and it just went from there. With technology the way it is I am always trying to push the envelope. And personally more djs/producers should really look into it.

As I kept getting older I found it more difficult carrying all them records through some convincing and some marvelous things I saw done with Denon dn-f2000 and cdj 500 I was astounded and was happy with the fact no more carrying the wait.

It wasn’t much longer till I got hooked on final scratch and it just went from there. With technology the way it is I am always trying to push the envelope. And personally more djs/producers should really look into it.

there are so many current DJ’s and Electronic music producers who don’t use the classical truntable and CDJ’s. For example: Justice, Daft punk, and the ones mentioned in this post.

It is true that there are so many cheapo gears that makes this culture of music possible for so many. However, there are, as well, many products that provide a better quality in all the sences, from sound to performance. Though, this is when the big Dj’s differe from the ones who only owen a controllers or interface that can bring a good performance so that the club owners will love to have.

But hey, you have to start from something, and if you don’t really try starting from something cheap, then you will never get to that big stage.

there are so many current DJ’s and Electronic music producers who don’t use the classical truntable and CDJ’s. For example: Justice, Daft punk, and the ones mentioned in this post.

It is true that there are so many cheapo gears that makes this culture of music possible for so many. However, there are, as well, many products that provide a better quality in all the sences, from sound to performance. Though, this is when the big Dj’s differe from the ones who only owen a controllers or interface that can bring a good performance so that the club owners will love to have.

But hey, you have to start from something, and if you don’t really try starting from something cheap, then you will never get to that big stage.

there are so many current DJ’s and Electronic music producers who don’t use the classical truntable and CDJ’s. For example: Justice, Daft punk, and the ones mentioned in this post.

It is true that there are so many cheapo gears that makes this culture of music possible for so many. However, there are, as well, many products that provide a better quality in all the sences, from sound to performance. Though, this is when the big Dj’s differe from the ones who only owen a controllers or interface that can bring a good performance so that the club owners will love to have.

But hey, you have to start from something, and if you don’t really try starting from something cheap, then you will never get to that big stage.

He uses traktor with cd control.

He uses traktor with cd control.

He uses traktor with cd control.

Yes! So well done! Who would want to throw out 1800 for a basic pioneer 350 series setup, when you can get an s4, an x1, and a machine at the same price! Controllerists go so much deeper into the music- actually tossing it around the way they like it, not just bringing two tracks together.. And i bet your audience isn’t going to care what you use as long as they are kept dancing. Besides, a cue juggled , spontaneous performance is more likely to wow the crowd than any plain mixing.

Yes! So well done! Who would want to throw out 1800 for a basic pioneer 350 series setup, when you can get an s4, an x1, and a machine at the same price! Controllerists go so much deeper into the music- actually tossing it around the way they like it, not just bringing two tracks together.. And i bet your audience isn’t going to care what you use as long as they are kept dancing. Besides, a cue juggled , spontaneous performance is more likely to wow the crowd than any plain mixing.

Yes! So well done! Who would want to throw out 1800 for a basic pioneer 350 series setup, when you can get an s4, an x1, and a machine at the same price! Controllerists go so much deeper into the music- actually tossing it around the way they like it, not just bringing two tracks together.. And i bet your audience isn’t going to care what you use as long as they are kept dancing. Besides, a cue juggled , spontaneous performance is more likely to wow the crowd than any plain mixing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZStfsXhXxg0

Charles Feel good at juju beats….vci 300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZStfsXhXxg0

Charles Feel good at juju beats….vci 300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZStfsXhXxg0

Charles Feel good at juju beats….vci 300

Yep. Dead on Ean. Out in Long Island, NY, in the Nassau County area, you are a considered a “worthy” DJ if you use a MacBook, Serato, TTM57SL, CDJs/Technics. Anything out side of that and you are a freak and dubbed a hobbyist or wannabe. I can’t tell you how disgusted I am with how other cookie-cutter DJs out there would not give me a chance, let a lone a second look when I busted my ass night after night trying to get in the door.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the old “Dude, you gotta switch to Serato.” Why, cause everyone else uses it? “No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.” BS. I do my best work on Traktor, just like you do YOUR best work on Serato. I* wouldn’t ask you to switch up your whole damn set-up just to show me 5 minutes of mixing. And then expect you to be a pro at it. I have MY setup, you have YOURS. But it seems if it isn’t the MacBook-Serato-TTM57SL-CDJs/Technics-way then you’re ass is grass and you just have to sit and twirl while you wonder why these guys get paid for sucking ass.

I know of but one DJ that truly impresses me with just 2 tables, Serato, and a TT57SL. He is awesome. But there a lot of us hybrid table/controllerists and just plain old controllerists that can do more than you ever dreamed of doing. Friggin —filthy.

Yep. Dead on Ean. Out in Long Island, NY, in the Nassau County area, you are a considered a “worthy” DJ if you use a MacBook, Serato, TTM57SL, CDJs/Technics. Anything out side of that and you are a freak and dubbed a hobbyist or wannabe. I can’t tell you how disgusted I am with how other cookie-cutter DJs out there would not give me a chance, let a lone a second look when I busted my ass night after night trying to get in the door.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the old “Dude, you gotta switch to Serato.” Why, cause everyone else uses it? “No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.” BS. I do my best work on Traktor, just like you do YOUR best work on Serato. I* wouldn’t ask you to switch up your whole damn set-up just to show me 5 minutes of mixing. And then expect you to be a pro at it. I have MY setup, you have YOURS. But it seems if it isn’t the MacBook-Serato-TTM57SL-CDJs/Technics-way then you’re ass is grass and you just have to sit and twirl while you wonder why these guys get paid for sucking ass.

I know of but one DJ that truly impresses me with just 2 tables, Serato, and a TT57SL. He is awesome. But there a lot of us hybrid table/controllerists and just plain old controllerists that can do more than you ever dreamed of doing. Friggin —filthy.

Yep. Dead on Ean. Out in Long Island, NY, in the Nassau County area, you are a considered a “worthy” DJ if you use a MacBook, Serato, TTM57SL, CDJs/Technics. Anything out side of that and you are a freak and dubbed a hobbyist or wannabe. I can’t tell you how disgusted I am with how other cookie-cutter DJs out there would not give me a chance, let a lone a second look when I busted my ass night after night trying to get in the door.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the old “Dude, you gotta switch to Serato.” Why, cause everyone else uses it? “No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.” BS. I do my best work on Traktor, just like you do YOUR best work on Serato. I* wouldn’t ask you to switch up your whole damn set-up just to show me 5 minutes of mixing. And then expect you to be a pro at it. I have MY setup, you have YOURS. But it seems if it isn’t the MacBook-Serato-TTM57SL-CDJs/Technics-way then you’re ass is grass and you just have to sit and twirl while you wonder why these guys get paid for sucking ass.

I know of but one DJ that truly impresses me with just 2 tables, Serato, and a TT57SL. He is awesome. But there a lot of us hybrid table/controllerists and just plain old controllerists that can do more than you ever dreamed of doing. Friggin —filthy.

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know.

I was a sound guy before Deejay…So I get the “issues” of introducing new/unknown gadgets, especially in pumpin venues where the $$$ depends on being dialed in.

I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually), to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is…I’m usually the guy with the new stuff (thanks DJTT)…But if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…as noted it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. But knowing sound mgmt has helped me a lot to get their confidence.

So, to my original Point…Make sure you know your gear, their gear, the guy behind the board…and plan ahead, and you’ll likely have no problem.

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know.

I was a sound guy before Deejay…So I get the “issues” of introducing new/unknown gadgets, especially in pumpin venues where the $$$ depends on being dialed in.

I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually), to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is…I’m usually the guy with the new stuff (thanks DJTT)…But if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…as noted it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. But knowing sound mgmt has helped me a lot to get their confidence.

So, to my original Point…Make sure you know your gear, their gear, the guy behind the board…and plan ahead, and you’ll likely have no problem.

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know.

I was a sound guy before Deejay…So I get the “issues” of introducing new/unknown gadgets, especially in pumpin venues where the $$$ depends on being dialed in.

I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually), to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is…I’m usually the guy with the new stuff (thanks DJTT)…But if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…as noted it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. But knowing sound mgmt has helped me a lot to get their confidence.

So, to my original Point…Make sure you know your gear, their gear, the guy behind the board…and plan ahead, and you’ll likely have no problem.

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know. I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually”, to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. If you can have fun, git er done!

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know. I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually”, to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. If you can have fun, git er done!

+1 here….They are usually afraid of what they don’t know. I’ve DJ’d as a 2nd gig for years and years, from 12″ to CD (skipped this actually”, to Laptop, to Laptop with TT, to Laptop with Controllers (1, 2, 3 and counting)…Rave, EDM, Top 40, Clubs, Bars, Lounges yada yada…and the common thread is if I have to DJ somewhere that does not get it, then its probably just the beginning of a long list of other considerations like requests, play lists, “if they can sing it you can play it”, etc… (which I to have gladly done)…it’s that balance between being hired for creativity vs. punching the clock. If you can have fun, git er done!

hahaha, this was funny as balls as I travel though India eating with my hands!

hahaha, this was funny as balls as I travel though India eating with my hands!

hahaha, this was funny as balls as I travel though India eating with my hands!

BTW, there was a time when they hated on the Denon 2000F as well…Left, Right, Up, Down, Sideways…Rock on with ya bad self!

BTW, there was a time when they hated on the Denon 2000F as well…Left, Right, Up, Down, Sideways…Rock on with ya bad self!

BTW, there was a time when they hated on the Denon 2000F as well…Left, Right, Up, Down, Sideways…Rock on with ya bad self!

Persistance is one of the keys to succes. It takes a lot of hard work to get acknowledged. Those top DJ’s didn’t just get lucky. It requires hard work.

Oh and don’t suck.

Persistance is one of the keys to succes. It takes a lot of hard work to get acknowledged. Those top DJ’s didn’t just get lucky. It requires hard work.

Oh and don’t suck.

Persistance is one of the keys to succes. It takes a lot of hard work to get acknowledged. Those top DJ’s didn’t just get lucky. It requires hard work.

Oh and don’t suck.

1) After trying *everything* (down to rewriting firmware and building my own gear), I’ve come to believe that Technics SL-1200, and a real mixer (I favor a UREI rotary), is, collectively, the best “music controller” ever made.

2) 99% of the time: the original producer of the track you’re self-indulgently mashing and beat-repeating to oblivion, put lots of work into making it great in the first place. Chances are, you’re not going to come up with something better on the fly.

You might come up with something better in the studio and set it all up in Ableton scenes and trigger the rows sequentially — but at that point you’re really just “playing back” a remix, which they were already doing on Tape Reels by 1978.

3) In terms of results, 100 loopers and 20 decks and 16 effects sends isn’t much better than 2 decks and an FX box. In fact, the “kitchen sink approach” is often less focused.

Just my $0.02. I spent a lot of time with the Controllerism thing and for me it turned out to be a dead end.

rs

1) After trying *everything* (down to rewriting firmware and building my own gear), I’ve come to believe that Technics SL-1200, and a real mixer (I favor a UREI rotary), is, collectively, the best “music controller” ever made.

2) 99% of the time: the original producer of the track you’re self-indulgently mashing and beat-repeating to oblivion, put lots of work into making it great in the first place. Chances are, you’re not going to come up with something better on the fly.

You might come up with something better in the studio and set it all up in Ableton scenes and trigger the rows sequentially — but at that point you’re really just “playing back” a remix, which they were already doing on Tape Reels by 1978.

3) In terms of results, 100 loopers and 20 decks and 16 effects sends isn’t much better than 2 decks and an FX box. In fact, the “kitchen sink approach” is often less focused.

Just my $0.02. I spent a lot of time with the Controllerism thing and for me it turned out to be a dead end.

rs

1) After trying *everything* (down to rewriting firmware and building my own gear), I’ve come to believe that Technics SL-1200, and a real mixer (I favor a UREI rotary), is, collectively, the best “music controller” ever made.

2) 99% of the time: the original producer of the track you’re self-indulgently mashing and beat-repeating to oblivion, put lots of work into making it great in the first place. Chances are, you’re not going to come up with something better on the fly.

You might come up with something better in the studio and set it all up in Ableton scenes and trigger the rows sequentially — but at that point you’re really just “playing back” a remix, which they were already doing on Tape Reels by 1978.

3) In terms of results, 100 loopers and 20 decks and 16 effects sends isn’t much better than 2 decks and an FX box. In fact, the “kitchen sink approach” is often less focused.

Just my $0.02. I spent a lot of time with the Controllerism thing and for me it turned out to be a dead end.

rs

Last year I went to a producers workshop where A Guy Called Gerald was there explaining (and then performing) his setup. He had two macbooks both running Reason and these were going into a conventional mixer to move from one track to the next. i.e. each macbook was equivalent to the days of two vinyl decks. The cool thing was that he was performing his own material on a mac using Reason but he was comfortable with using a hardware mixer.
You should use whatever works for you. I personally use Ableton, a pair of ipads and a faderfox Midi controller. I get the physical interaction with the faderfox, the flexibility of building my own control surfaces on my iPad and using Ableton to remix on the fly and bring in my own material.

I can’t really see were the whole vinyl/CDJs purity side of DJing comes from – there are a shed load of people in the world that still think DJing is the Emperors new clothes making money out of playing other peoples tunes. So arguing over whether he uses a CDJ and they use a laptop is pretty pointless.
In the end it’s a bit like arguing over a manual/automatic gear box in a car, as long as you get there (entertaining the audience) who cares how.

Last year I went to a producers workshop where A Guy Called Gerald was there explaining (and then performing) his setup. He had two macbooks both running Reason and these were going into a conventional mixer to move from one track to the next. i.e. each macbook was equivalent to the days of two vinyl decks. The cool thing was that he was performing his own material on a mac using Reason but he was comfortable with using a hardware mixer.
You should use whatever works for you. I personally use Ableton, a pair of ipads and a faderfox Midi controller. I get the physical interaction with the faderfox, the flexibility of building my own control surfaces on my iPad and using Ableton to remix on the fly and bring in my own material.

I can’t really see were the whole vinyl/CDJs purity side of DJing comes from – there are a shed load of people in the world that still think DJing is the Emperors new clothes making money out of playing other peoples tunes. So arguing over whether he uses a CDJ and they use a laptop is pretty pointless.
In the end it’s a bit like arguing over a manual/automatic gear box in a car, as long as you get there (entertaining the audience) who cares how.

Last year I went to a producers workshop where A Guy Called Gerald was there explaining (and then performing) his setup. He had two macbooks both running Reason and these were going into a conventional mixer to move from one track to the next. i.e. each macbook was equivalent to the days of two vinyl decks. The cool thing was that he was performing his own material on a mac using Reason but he was comfortable with using a hardware mixer.
You should use whatever works for you. I personally use Ableton, a pair of ipads and a faderfox Midi controller. I get the physical interaction with the faderfox, the flexibility of building my own control surfaces on my iPad and using Ableton to remix on the fly and bring in my own material.

I can’t really see were the whole vinyl/CDJs purity side of DJing comes from – there are a shed load of people in the world that still think DJing is the Emperors new clothes making money out of playing other peoples tunes. So arguing over whether he uses a CDJ and they use a laptop is pretty pointless.
In the end it’s a bit like arguing over a manual/automatic gear box in a car, as long as you get there (entertaining the audience) who cares how.

I believe this discussion have been, debated over and over again. :-).
Today it does not really matter what medium we present our music with. The club goer’s don care. Just dance while you perform, and u can use ur iphone.

I believe today what gives the big dj’s their space, is the fact they also produce, and production/remixing is even more fun.

So what if everyone can easily buy a midi controller or use their joystick to mix, get free music, and perform like Carl Cox. noo ‘wahala’ differentiate your self in other means. (i think ean is a perfect example).

And if a club wont let u play, open one up ur self he he, and beat the competition.

I believe this discussion have been, debated over and over again. :-).
Today it does not really matter what medium we present our music with. The club goer’s don care. Just dance while you perform, and u can use ur iphone.

I believe today what gives the big dj’s their space, is the fact they also produce, and production/remixing is even more fun.

So what if everyone can easily buy a midi controller or use their joystick to mix, get free music, and perform like Carl Cox. noo ‘wahala’ differentiate your self in other means. (i think ean is a perfect example).

And if a club wont let u play, open one up ur self he he, and beat the competition.

I believe this discussion have been, debated over and over again. :-).
Today it does not really matter what medium we present our music with. The club goer’s don care. Just dance while you perform, and u can use ur iphone.

I believe today what gives the big dj’s their space, is the fact they also produce, and production/remixing is even more fun.

So what if everyone can easily buy a midi controller or use their joystick to mix, get free music, and perform like Carl Cox. noo ‘wahala’ differentiate your self in other means. (i think ean is a perfect example).

And if a club wont let u play, open one up ur self he he, and beat the competition.

In this day of age, I think decks such as the CDJ ‘s are useless…though i do respect the quality of vinyl so turntables should be kept…

anyway at the end of the day, art is art and as long you love what you express then people would love it as well.

the whole point of a dj is make people forget about their crappy day / week and make them dance

so “WHO CARES” !!!!!

In this day of age, I think decks such as the CDJ ‘s are useless…though i do respect the quality of vinyl so turntables should be kept…

anyway at the end of the day, art is art and as long you love what you express then people would love it as well.

the whole point of a dj is make people forget about their crappy day / week and make them dance

so “WHO CARES” !!!!!

In this day of age, I think decks such as the CDJ ‘s are useless…though i do respect the quality of vinyl so turntables should be kept…

anyway at the end of the day, art is art and as long you love what you express then people would love it as well.

the whole point of a dj is make people forget about their crappy day / week and make them dance

so “WHO CARES” !!!!!

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

FUCKING AMEN.

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

FUCKING AMEN.

Learn to adapt. Until you and a big enough name to demand your own setup, you will have to fit in. It’s a bit prima-Donna to expect otherwise. Clubs are not your studio.

FUCKING AMEN.

“No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.”

he’s not feeding you bullshit, its about STEPPING UP, being a DJ means you step up and rock all gear. not ” i cant perform without traktor s4 and 6 weeks practice ”

Just copy all your cue points from traktor to serato if you do it by time stamps it takes only a few seconds… then Traktor at home and serato when you play out. I did that for a long time til i got my own serato box.

Im not saying its right to conform to “the norm” to solve your issues. But I personally started having alot more fun and dealing with ALOT less bullshit when I was “another serato guy” even though my entire workflow at home was traktor.

It also helps that “step up” factor. If your a serato guy and you take the time to copy cues to traktor or vice versa then you can just plug and play on ANY timecode setup, and you wont have to switch any hardware ever just load whatever DVS software has hardware already plugged in.

You gotta understand most local kids who use ableton and traktor use software as a CRUTCH to suppliment DJ skills they DONT have. Not to take their broad array of plateau’d turntablism skills to the next level. Then they name drop good artists that truelly use controllers to take their performance to the next level and ASSUME they are in the same tier as said artist because they use the same thing. Kids just dont get it.

“No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.”

he’s not feeding you bullshit, its about STEPPING UP, being a DJ means you step up and rock all gear. not ” i cant perform without traktor s4 and 6 weeks practice ”

Just copy all your cue points from traktor to serato if you do it by time stamps it takes only a few seconds… then Traktor at home and serato when you play out. I did that for a long time til i got my own serato box.

Im not saying its right to conform to “the norm” to solve your issues. But I personally started having alot more fun and dealing with ALOT less bullshit when I was “another serato guy” even though my entire workflow at home was traktor.

It also helps that “step up” factor. If your a serato guy and you take the time to copy cues to traktor or vice versa then you can just plug and play on ANY timecode setup, and you wont have to switch any hardware ever just load whatever DVS software has hardware already plugged in.

You gotta understand most local kids who use ableton and traktor use software as a CRUTCH to suppliment DJ skills they DONT have. Not to take their broad array of plateau’d turntablism skills to the next level. Then they name drop good artists that truelly use controllers to take their performance to the next level and ASSUME they are in the same tier as said artist because they use the same thing. Kids just dont get it.

“No, because I want you to hop on sometimes and show me what you got.”

he’s not feeding you bullshit, its about STEPPING UP, being a DJ means you step up and rock all gear. not ” i cant perform without traktor s4 and 6 weeks practice ”

Just copy all your cue points from traktor to serato if you do it by time stamps it takes only a few seconds… then Traktor at home and serato when you play out. I did that for a long time til i got my own serato box.

Im not saying its right to conform to “the norm” to solve your issues. But I personally started having alot more fun and dealing with ALOT less bullshit when I was “another serato guy” even though my entire workflow at home was traktor.

It also helps that “step up” factor. If your a serato guy and you take the time to copy cues to traktor or vice versa then you can just plug and play on ANY timecode setup, and you wont have to switch any hardware ever just load whatever DVS software has hardware already plugged in.

You gotta understand most local kids who use ableton and traktor use software as a CRUTCH to suppliment DJ skills they DONT have. Not to take their broad array of plateau’d turntablism skills to the next level. Then they name drop good artists that truelly use controllers to take their performance to the next level and ASSUME they are in the same tier as said artist because they use the same thing. Kids just dont get it.

That sync button isn’t just there for the cue point jugglers, its for the people who run 4 decks of tracks and continue to loop and layer them over each other. I’d like to see you try to keeping 4 tracks in perfect time for an hour or more, all the while looping and running effects, on turntables and an fx box

That sync button isn’t just there for the cue point jugglers, its for the people who run 4 decks of tracks and continue to loop and layer them over each other. I’d like to see you try to keeping 4 tracks in perfect time for an hour or more, all the while looping and running effects, on turntables and an fx box

That sync button isn’t just there for the cue point jugglers, its for the people who run 4 decks of tracks and continue to loop and layer them over each other. I’d like to see you try to keeping 4 tracks in perfect time for an hour or more, all the while looping and running effects, on turntables and an fx box

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/03/17/whats-in-your-bag-interview-with-porter-robinson/

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/03/17/whats-in-your-bag-interview-with-porter-robinson/

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/03/17/whats-in-your-bag-interview-with-porter-robinson/

liebing is using 2 xone 1ds, a xone 92, and a faderfox (don’t know which one)

liebing is using 2 xone 1ds, a xone 92, and a faderfox (don’t know which one)

liebing is using 2 xone 1ds, a xone 92, and a faderfox (don’t know which one)

i felt the same too ,after trying many diffrent forms ,and went back to the 12s ,but thank god for tracktor scratch .

i felt the same too ,after trying many diffrent forms ,and went back to the 12s ,but thank god for tracktor scratch .

i felt the same too ,after trying many diffrent forms ,and went back to the 12s ,but thank god for tracktor scratch .

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

using dicers in serato doesn’t make you a controllerist lmao.its pretty much the turntablist norm now.

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

using dicers in serato doesn’t make you a controllerist lmao.its pretty much the turntablist norm now.

Elite Force is rocking Serato now and using a pair of Dicers. Add him to the list.

using dicers in serato doesn’t make you a controllerist lmao.its pretty much the turntablist norm now.

Makes me remember about an interview with Richie Hawtin about this hi-tech setup, which had too much stuff interacting with each other, like a 20+ channel mixer to route every sound possible…

Makes me remember about an interview with Richie Hawtin about this hi-tech setup, which had too much stuff interacting with each other, like a 20+ channel mixer to route every sound possible…

Makes me remember about an interview with Richie Hawtin about this hi-tech setup, which had too much stuff interacting with each other, like a 20+ channel mixer to route every sound possible…

Well, beatmatching only “works” if your BPM values for your songs are all close together. If BPM is all you care about, you’ll miss some “artistic” element in your mixes: you won’t mix songs that have the same mood and would go very well together, despite being vastly different in BPM. Eventually it’ll even begin to sound boring.

Well, beatmatching only “works” if your BPM values for your songs are all close together. If BPM is all you care about, you’ll miss some “artistic” element in your mixes: you won’t mix songs that have the same mood and would go very well together, despite being vastly different in BPM. Eventually it’ll even begin to sound boring.

Well, beatmatching only “works” if your BPM values for your songs are all close together. If BPM is all you care about, you’ll miss some “artistic” element in your mixes: you won’t mix songs that have the same mood and would go very well together, despite being vastly different in BPM. Eventually it’ll even begin to sound boring.

I think the better question at this point is which big name DJs AREN’T using a lot of tech.

You’ve already listed Richie Hawtin, who has been a groundbreaker in this aspect, but what about Sasha, who has been playing exclusively on Ableton with a custom-built controller for six or seven years now. It also allows him to do things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4B-B92xyU . Good luck booking him for your club without some serious space for plugging in some tech tools (check the rider, folks).

Steve Lawler, one of the more traditional (but amazingly good) DJs out there plays entirely off of Serato. The current DMC champion, who just authored a great post on this site a few days ago, uses Maschine and Traktor. Those 1s and 2s are nothing more than controllers, folks. Get over it.

I think the better question at this point is which big name DJs AREN’T using a lot of tech.

You’ve already listed Richie Hawtin, who has been a groundbreaker in this aspect, but what about Sasha, who has been playing exclusively on Ableton with a custom-built controller for six or seven years now. It also allows him to do things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4B-B92xyU . Good luck booking him for your club without some serious space for plugging in some tech tools (check the rider, folks).

Steve Lawler, one of the more traditional (but amazingly good) DJs out there plays entirely off of Serato. The current DMC champion, who just authored a great post on this site a few days ago, uses Maschine and Traktor. Those 1s and 2s are nothing more than controllers, folks. Get over it.

I think the better question at this point is which big name DJs AREN’T using a lot of tech.

You’ve already listed Richie Hawtin, who has been a groundbreaker in this aspect, but what about Sasha, who has been playing exclusively on Ableton with a custom-built controller for six or seven years now. It also allows him to do things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4B-B92xyU . Good luck booking him for your club without some serious space for plugging in some tech tools (check the rider, folks).

Steve Lawler, one of the more traditional (but amazingly good) DJs out there plays entirely off of Serato. The current DMC champion, who just authored a great post on this site a few days ago, uses Maschine and Traktor. Those 1s and 2s are nothing more than controllers, folks. Get over it.

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felix cartel

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Although I certainly agree with the post that DJing with controllers is a perfectly acceptable method of DJing (and it’s what I’ve done for the past 4 years), the Skrillex video inclusion is quite ironic in that it’s a great example of how controllers can also be “abused”. In that video other than adjusting his glasses and hair, jumping around sipping his drink and smoking a cigarette, Skrillex does a 1 second filter sweep and two short stutters/loop rolls in the entire first 4 minutes of the video… then slam mixes into the next track.

That is NOT what digital DJing is all about.

Although I certainly agree with the post that DJing with controllers is a perfectly acceptable method of DJing (and it’s what I’ve done for the past 4 years), the Skrillex video inclusion is quite ironic in that it’s a great example of how controllers can also be “abused”. In that video other than adjusting his glasses and hair, jumping around sipping his drink and smoking a cigarette, Skrillex does a 1 second filter sweep and two short stutters/loop rolls in the entire first 4 minutes of the video… then slam mixes into the next track.

That is NOT what digital DJing is all about.

Although I certainly agree with the post that DJing with controllers is a perfectly acceptable method of DJing (and it’s what I’ve done for the past 4 years), the Skrillex video inclusion is quite ironic in that it’s a great example of how controllers can also be “abused”. In that video other than adjusting his glasses and hair, jumping around sipping his drink and smoking a cigarette, Skrillex does a 1 second filter sweep and two short stutters/loop rolls in the entire first 4 minutes of the video… then slam mixes into the next track.

That is NOT what digital DJing is all about.

totally true, i am in no way condoning trance but im sure i remember reading that paul van dyke started off with a tape player a gramophone and a mixer and to be fair he is as big as they get. just goes to show its not about the gear you use

totally true, i am in no way condoning trance but im sure i remember reading that paul van dyke started off with a tape player a gramophone and a mixer and to be fair he is as big as they get. just goes to show its not about the gear you use

totally true, i am in no way condoning trance but im sure i remember reading that paul van dyke started off with a tape player a gramophone and a mixer and to be fair he is as big as they get. just goes to show its not about the gear you use

after reading through some of these comments i think we need to look at controllerism and DJing at a more fundamental level. people have different definitions of DJs and controllerists. IMO that is what needs to be more defined.

for example, i can easily see how all these controllerism routine videos and contests actually HURT ones chances of getting booked. i can picture myself as the person whos doing the booking, looking at these videos of mashing buttons and layering what normally are totally incompatible styles as something that i DONT want from a DJ. i would want a person who can stay in a mix for multiple hours without going off beat, or clashing tonalities, not one who can mash buttons for 2-4 minutes while making it sound decent.

its easy to see how a 10minmix using any gear will be better for your chances at getting booked. it would actually showcase your ability as a DJ, which is what most people applying to clubs are applying as.

but yeah, basically DJs are not necessarily controllerists, and the other way around. while both may use the same gear, their purposes are not the same. and clearly clubs dont recognize that since the vast majority of information regarding controllers takes it beyond the basic mixing, it almost makes one feel as though controllers are made to do these crazy finger tying routines and DJing is left to those with less buttons.

after reading through some of these comments i think we need to look at controllerism and DJing at a more fundamental level. people have different definitions of DJs and controllerists. IMO that is what needs to be more defined.

for example, i can easily see how all these controllerism routine videos and contests actually HURT ones chances of getting booked. i can picture myself as the person whos doing the booking, looking at these videos of mashing buttons and layering what normally are totally incompatible styles as something that i DONT want from a DJ. i would want a person who can stay in a mix for multiple hours without going off beat, or clashing tonalities, not one who can mash buttons for 2-4 minutes while making it sound decent.

its easy to see how a 10minmix using any gear will be better for your chances at getting booked. it would actually showcase your ability as a DJ, which is what most people applying to clubs are applying as.

but yeah, basically DJs are not necessarily controllerists, and the other way around. while both may use the same gear, their purposes are not the same. and clearly clubs dont recognize that since the vast majority of information regarding controllers takes it beyond the basic mixing, it almost makes one feel as though controllers are made to do these crazy finger tying routines and DJing is left to those with less buttons.

after reading through some of these comments i think we need to look at controllerism and DJing at a more fundamental level. people have different definitions of DJs and controllerists. IMO that is what needs to be more defined.

for example, i can easily see how all these controllerism routine videos and contests actually HURT ones chances of getting booked. i can picture myself as the person whos doing the booking, looking at these videos of mashing buttons and layering what normally are totally incompatible styles as something that i DONT want from a DJ. i would want a person who can stay in a mix for multiple hours without going off beat, or clashing tonalities, not one who can mash buttons for 2-4 minutes while making it sound decent.

its easy to see how a 10minmix using any gear will be better for your chances at getting booked. it would actually showcase your ability as a DJ, which is what most people applying to clubs are applying as.

but yeah, basically DJs are not necessarily controllerists, and the other way around. while both may use the same gear, their purposes are not the same. and clearly clubs dont recognize that since the vast majority of information regarding controllers takes it beyond the basic mixing, it almost makes one feel as though controllers are made to do these crazy finger tying routines and DJing is left to those with less buttons.

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I make Electro house and Queen mash-ups every night before I go to bed, because its important to regularly try and blend impossible mixes of music that don’t belong together. In fact I regularly attempt to mix polka and gospel music too- you should hear it – the blend is amazingly confusing!

I make Electro house and Queen mash-ups every night before I go to bed, because its important to regularly try and blend impossible mixes of music that don’t belong together. In fact I regularly attempt to mix polka and gospel music too- you should hear it – the blend is amazingly confusing!

I make Electro house and Queen mash-ups every night before I go to bed, because its important to regularly try and blend impossible mixes of music that don’t belong together. In fact I regularly attempt to mix polka and gospel music too- you should hear it – the blend is amazingly confusing!

you bring up a good point about the sound quality, it’s hard to know if a dj knows anything about the quality coming from his equipment if it is not standard issue.

There-fore, I agree, club standards are a good measure by which to judge equipment intended for that field. It is not however a standard by which to measure all dj performance/explorations, as the more abstract/strange excursions are often the more interesting.

you bring up a good point about the sound quality, it’s hard to know if a dj knows anything about the quality coming from his equipment if it is not standard issue.

There-fore, I agree, club standards are a good measure by which to judge equipment intended for that field. It is not however a standard by which to measure all dj performance/explorations, as the more abstract/strange excursions are often the more interesting.

you bring up a good point about the sound quality, it’s hard to know if a dj knows anything about the quality coming from his equipment if it is not standard issue.

There-fore, I agree, club standards are a good measure by which to judge equipment intended for that field. It is not however a standard by which to measure all dj performance/explorations, as the more abstract/strange excursions are often the more interesting.

Look I feel you… and its cool to agree to disagree ;-) I Just feel that there is a little too much of the consumerism vibe going on sometimes especially with regard to equipment I see being marketed to bedroom djs. I’m talking about the kind of equipment that won’t last through 5 bedroom jam sessions let alone one chance to break into the local club circuit…..Everyone can get down how they choose and that is the beauty that all of these choices afford us, but I think we should strive to sound our best at all times.. especially when first chances and the experience of our audience are at stake. It is for that reason that I disagree with your premise…. and this is also because I believe that you and your blog have demonstrated the ability to steer the market.

Cheers,
-brandon

Look I feel you… and its cool to agree to disagree ;-) I Just feel that there is a little too much of the consumerism vibe going on sometimes especially with regard to equipment I see being marketed to bedroom djs. I’m talking about the kind of equipment that won’t last through 5 bedroom jam sessions let alone one chance to break into the local club circuit…..Everyone can get down how they choose and that is the beauty that all of these choices afford us, but I think we should strive to sound our best at all times.. especially when first chances and the experience of our audience are at stake. It is for that reason that I disagree with your premise…. and this is also because I believe that you and your blog have demonstrated the ability to steer the market.

Cheers,
-brandon

Look I feel you… and its cool to agree to disagree ;-) I Just feel that there is a little too much of the consumerism vibe going on sometimes especially with regard to equipment I see being marketed to bedroom djs. I’m talking about the kind of equipment that won’t last through 5 bedroom jam sessions let alone one chance to break into the local club circuit…..Everyone can get down how they choose and that is the beauty that all of these choices afford us, but I think we should strive to sound our best at all times.. especially when first chances and the experience of our audience are at stake. It is for that reason that I disagree with your premise…. and this is also because I believe that you and your blog have demonstrated the ability to steer the market.

Cheers,
-brandon

If you are an aspiring club DJ and don’t know how to work with a set of cdj’s or turntables then you should really hang up the headphones on that dream now and stick to being a bedroom DJ.

All you need is an audio interface and a couple of control CD’s/Vinyls. People don’t realise how easy software has made DJing. I challenge any software based DJ to try mixing two vinyls the old school way (without software) if you’ve never done it before. There is nothing telling you the BPM of the song (you have to count it out the old school way) there is no loop, there is no SYNC and you have to feel the music, not rely on waveforms.

Maybe I am just closed minded but if I met another DJ who had no idea how to use a pair of CDJ’s or turntables even with timecode then I would definately look down on them. I started off on software but I taught myself how to use CDJ’s by themselves (you know with actual CD’s) and I am teaching myself how to use vinyls without software. Not because this is how I work in the club but beacause that way I can adapt to any situation and because IMHO these ways represent an important part of the artform of DJIng and I would never call myself a DJ without knowing how to use a pair of CDJ’s or Turntables.

Personally after getting used to timecode vinyls I find it hard to go to any other sort of controller or CDJ. You can’t beat being able to touch the music.

If you are an aspiring club DJ and don’t know how to work with a set of cdj’s or turntables then you should really hang up the headphones on that dream now and stick to being a bedroom DJ.

All you need is an audio interface and a couple of control CD’s/Vinyls. People don’t realise how easy software has made DJing. I challenge any software based DJ to try mixing two vinyls the old school way (without software) if you’ve never done it before. There is nothing telling you the BPM of the song (you have to count it out the old school way) there is no loop, there is no SYNC and you have to feel the music, not rely on waveforms.

Maybe I am just closed minded but if I met another DJ who had no idea how to use a pair of CDJ’s or turntables even with timecode then I would definately look down on them. I started off on software but I taught myself how to use CDJ’s by themselves (you know with actual CD’s) and I am teaching myself how to use vinyls without software. Not because this is how I work in the club but beacause that way I can adapt to any situation and because IMHO these ways represent an important part of the artform of DJIng and I would never call myself a DJ without knowing how to use a pair of CDJ’s or Turntables.

Personally after getting used to timecode vinyls I find it hard to go to any other sort of controller or CDJ. You can’t beat being able to touch the music.

If you are an aspiring club DJ and don’t know how to work with a set of cdj’s or turntables then you should really hang up the headphones on that dream now and stick to being a bedroom DJ.

All you need is an audio interface and a couple of control CD’s/Vinyls. People don’t realise how easy software has made DJing. I challenge any software based DJ to try mixing two vinyls the old school way (without software) if you’ve never done it before. There is nothing telling you the BPM of the song (you have to count it out the old school way) there is no loop, there is no SYNC and you have to feel the music, not rely on waveforms.

Maybe I am just closed minded but if I met another DJ who had no idea how to use a pair of CDJ’s or turntables even with timecode then I would definately look down on them. I started off on software but I taught myself how to use CDJ’s by themselves (you know with actual CD’s) and I am teaching myself how to use vinyls without software. Not because this is how I work in the club but beacause that way I can adapt to any situation and because IMHO these ways represent an important part of the artform of DJIng and I would never call myself a DJ without knowing how to use a pair of CDJ’s or Turntables.

Personally after getting used to timecode vinyls I find it hard to go to any other sort of controller or CDJ. You can’t beat being able to touch the music.

“While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

POP QUIZ: Which one of these DJs is NOT world-famous?
What planet are you on?

“While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

POP QUIZ: Which one of these DJs is NOT world-famous?
What planet are you on?

“While many of our local DJs still rely on traditional DJ gear like CDJ’s to perform their sets, there are many professional/highly paid DJs and performers around the world that exclusively use controllers and get booked in the very best clubs in the world. Here is a short list with video links:

DubFire

Ean Golden

Richie Hawtin

Flying Lotus”

POP QUIZ: Which one of these DJs is NOT world-famous?
What planet are you on?

DJ TechTools  |  Would It Work In A Club? The Wrong Litmus Test…

All too often, when new technologies, ideas, or equipment comes out, people are quick to criticize them with a blanket statement : “Oh, that would never work in a club!” I propose this is the wro……

I can remember the first few years I started djing. This was maybe about 8 yrs ago. I couldn’t afford turntables to practice and dove right into the digital world with the first traktor and a small midi controller. I even tried ableton in it’s 1.0 version. before the likes of Sasha and others started making it the norm. I got a lot of crap and even got stopped from performing at gigs. Even tried to rationalize with promoters that the likes of (name dropping different headliners) were doing it. Fact is most promoters at the time were old school djs, so that didn’t matter to them. As soon as The first Final Scratch was out I was all over it. I went backwards so the whole feeling the record and getting it in was a trip to me and it finally clicked why people demand seeing it. You sometimes need to see the dj working it in because a lot of the fans are not techies like the rest of us. I of course did not want to give up the crate in the computer so I stayed with the timecode buying newer versions as they came out. Played a number of years and got a following in the area I live.

Now here is the kicker. Because of the onslaught of bedroom producers in the last 10 yrs the dj is slowly evolving into the artist or producer performing. I can name a ton of new producers that have written bomb tracks and now have to suddenly learn how to dj to play out gigs. Some embracing the tech world they were born into and some going the traditional route. Bottom line is these new artist are blowing up bigger and faster that the dj not producing. They are being booked for being that artist, not how he/she is going to perform. I just saw a headliner act. (Not going to mention names). So his set appeared to be a pre edited set on one cd. He then scratched and did his tricks (Fire, Floating records, etc.) The crowd ate that shit up. But the hard work was put in becoming a award winning turntablist and producer for years. So really the act was booked not on his dj ability to mix songs together, but the showmanship.

Some of the shows I go to have 10,000 fans and the stage is so far away that you cant even see what the performer is doing anyway. Then I will go to a bar/club and see an act come from another country and it is very intimate. That’s where is sometimes can be crucial how you are going to perform. Lets face it if you are trying to make a name for yourself and have no releases and you are performing in a small venue for 100 people. They are not going to want to see you on a laptop with just a midi controller. NO matter how many edits, glitches, and tracks you play at the same time. If you are just starting out, get ready to play a lot of those small venues with eyes on your technique.

In the end I think if you are just going to stay a dj and not become a producer you are going have to adopt the traditional ways of djing for the crowd. I’m at the point in my life that I’m going to stop tying to get so many gigs and hit the bedroom to get some tracks out before doing gigs again. It’s the nature of the beast. Become a producer people and do what you want!!!

I can remember the first few years I started djing. This was maybe about 8 yrs ago. I couldn’t afford turntables to practice and dove right into the digital world with the first traktor and a small midi controller. I even tried ableton in it’s 1.0 version. before the likes of Sasha and others started making it the norm. I got a lot of crap and even got stopped from performing at gigs. Even tried to rationalize with promoters that the likes of (name dropping different headliners) were doing it. Fact is most promoters at the time were old school djs, so that didn’t matter to them. As soon as The first Final Scratch was out I was all over it. I went backwards so the whole feeling the record and getting it in was a trip to me and it finally clicked why people demand seeing it. You sometimes need to see the dj working it in because a lot of the fans are not techies like the rest of us. I of course did not want to give up the crate in the computer so I stayed with the timecode buying newer versions as they came out. Played a number of years and got a following in the area I live.

Now here is the kicker. Because of the onslaught of bedroom producers in the last 10 yrs the dj is slowly evolving into the artist or producer performing. I can name a ton of new producers that have written bomb tracks and now have to suddenly learn how to dj to play out gigs. Some embracing the tech world they were born into and some going the traditional route. Bottom line is these new artist are blowing up bigger and faster that the dj not producing. They are being booked for being that artist, not how he/she is going to perform. I just saw a headliner act. (Not going to mention names). So his set appeared to be a pre edited set on one cd. He then scratched and did his tricks (Fire, Floating records, etc.) The crowd ate that shit up. But the hard work was put in becoming a award winning turntablist and producer for years. So really the act was booked not on his dj ability to mix songs together, but the showmanship.

Some of the shows I go to have 10,000 fans and the stage is so far away that you cant even see what the performer is doing anyway. Then I will go to a bar/club and see an act come from another country and it is very intimate. That’s where is sometimes can be crucial how you are going to perform. Lets face it if you are trying to make a name for yourself and have no releases and you are performing in a small venue for 100 people. They are not going to want to see you on a laptop with just a midi controller. NO matter how many edits, glitches, and tracks you play at the same time. If you are just starting out, get ready to play a lot of those small venues with eyes on your technique.

In the end I think if you are just going to stay a dj and not become a producer you are going have to adopt the traditional ways of djing for the crowd. I’m at the point in my life that I’m going to stop tying to get so many gigs and hit the bedroom to get some tracks out before doing gigs again. It’s the nature of the beast. Become a producer people and do what you want!!!

I can remember the first few years I started djing. This was maybe about 8 yrs ago. I couldn’t afford turntables to practice and dove right into the digital world with the first traktor and a small midi controller. I even tried ableton in it’s 1.0 version. before the likes of Sasha and others started making it the norm. I got a lot of crap and even got stopped from performing at gigs. Even tried to rationalize with promoters that the likes of (name dropping different headliners) were doing it. Fact is most promoters at the time were old school djs, so that didn’t matter to them. As soon as The first Final Scratch was out I was all over it. I went backwards so the whole feeling the record and getting it in was a trip to me and it finally clicked why people demand seeing it. You sometimes need to see the dj working it in because a lot of the fans are not techies like the rest of us. I of course did not want to give up the crate in the computer so I stayed with the timecode buying newer versions as they came out. Played a number of years and got a following in the area I live.

Now here is the kicker. Because of the onslaught of bedroom producers in the last 10 yrs the dj is slowly evolving into the artist or producer performing. I can name a ton of new producers that have written bomb tracks and now have to suddenly learn how to dj to play out gigs. Some embracing the tech world they were born into and some going the traditional route. Bottom line is these new artist are blowing up bigger and faster that the dj not producing. They are being booked for being that artist, not how he/she is going to perform. I just saw a headliner act. (Not going to mention names). So his set appeared to be a pre edited set on one cd. He then scratched and did his tricks (Fire, Floating records, etc.) The crowd ate that shit up. But the hard work was put in becoming a award winning turntablist and producer for years. So really the act was booked not on his dj ability to mix songs together, but the showmanship.

Some of the shows I go to have 10,000 fans and the stage is so far away that you cant even see what the performer is doing anyway. Then I will go to a bar/club and see an act come from another country and it is very intimate. That’s where is sometimes can be crucial how you are going to perform. Lets face it if you are trying to make a name for yourself and have no releases and you are performing in a small venue for 100 people. They are not going to want to see you on a laptop with just a midi controller. NO matter how many edits, glitches, and tracks you play at the same time. If you are just starting out, get ready to play a lot of those small venues with eyes on your technique.

In the end I think if you are just going to stay a dj and not become a producer you are going have to adopt the traditional ways of djing for the crowd. I’m at the point in my life that I’m going to stop tying to get so many gigs and hit the bedroom to get some tracks out before doing gigs again. It’s the nature of the beast. Become a producer people and do what you want!!!

Chris Liebing !

Chris Liebing !

Chris Liebing !

BASSNECTAR!!!!

BASSNECTAR!!!!

BASSNECTAR!!!!

In the end 99% of anything you are doing in a live setting comes down to two things, track selection and ability to read the crowd. If you are on top of both of these things than whether you fall into a traditional DJ or a controllerist is irrelevant. A good party is always going to be a good party , regardless. Those that don’t have the skills maybe fine for a time but their lack of skills will catch up with them. For those of you that fall into this category, practice more… The great thing about EDM is that it is generally an “inclusive” culture and as such people will embrace you over time as long as you’re not a total douche.

The is all.

In the end 99% of anything you are doing in a live setting comes down to two things, track selection and ability to read the crowd. If you are on top of both of these things than whether you fall into a traditional DJ or a controllerist is irrelevant. A good party is always going to be a good party , regardless. Those that don’t have the skills maybe fine for a time but their lack of skills will catch up with them. For those of you that fall into this category, practice more… The great thing about EDM is that it is generally an “inclusive” culture and as such people will embrace you over time as long as you’re not a total douche.

The is all.

In the end 99% of anything you are doing in a live setting comes down to two things, track selection and ability to read the crowd. If you are on top of both of these things than whether you fall into a traditional DJ or a controllerist is irrelevant. A good party is always going to be a good party , regardless. Those that don’t have the skills maybe fine for a time but their lack of skills will catch up with them. For those of you that fall into this category, practice more… The great thing about EDM is that it is generally an “inclusive” culture and as such people will embrace you over time as long as you’re not a total douche.

The is all.

As a lot of DJs I’ve made a huge jump from a simple 2-deck vinyl setup to CDJs, to eventually a Midi Setup running Traktor. If someone would ever tell me that I would not be able to DJ somewhere because of the setup I use, they could just go f*ck themselves.

I’ve been DJing since the 90s and I’ve bought thousands of vinyls, my back is not what it used to be. Same for CDJ’s, the technology has proven to itself, but there are cheaper/better solutions out there, like a midi setup.

People who are saying “that would never work in a club”, just don’t know what they’re talking about. They want DJs to come in and play on 2 CDJs and a mixer, laying down the same old mixes as everybody else does, making the party one big boring piece of repetitiveness. People with different setups, DJ in different ways and that way they make their sets more interesting. Being creative and “unique” is eventually what people want, so why hate on that?

As a lot of DJs I’ve made a huge jump from a simple 2-deck vinyl setup to CDJs, to eventually a Midi Setup running Traktor. If someone would ever tell me that I would not be able to DJ somewhere because of the setup I use, they could just go f*ck themselves.

I’ve been DJing since the 90s and I’ve bought thousands of vinyls, my back is not what it used to be. Same for CDJ’s, the technology has proven to itself, but there are cheaper/better solutions out there, like a midi setup.

People who are saying “that would never work in a club”, just don’t know what they’re talking about. They want DJs to come in and play on 2 CDJs and a mixer, laying down the same old mixes as everybody else does, making the party one big boring piece of repetitiveness. People with different setups, DJ in different ways and that way they make their sets more interesting. Being creative and “unique” is eventually what people want, so why hate on that?

As a lot of DJs I’ve made a huge jump from a simple 2-deck vinyl setup to CDJs, to eventually a Midi Setup running Traktor. If someone would ever tell me that I would not be able to DJ somewhere because of the setup I use, they could just go f*ck themselves.

I’ve been DJing since the 90s and I’ve bought thousands of vinyls, my back is not what it used to be. Same for CDJ’s, the technology has proven to itself, but there are cheaper/better solutions out there, like a midi setup.

People who are saying “that would never work in a club”, just don’t know what they’re talking about. They want DJs to come in and play on 2 CDJs and a mixer, laying down the same old mixes as everybody else does, making the party one big boring piece of repetitiveness. People with different setups, DJ in different ways and that way they make their sets more interesting. Being creative and “unique” is eventually what people want, so why hate on that?

Reality check:

The overwhelming majority of professional DJ’s don’t work in clubs, they do weddings and private parties. Yes, it’s an incredibly lame thing compared to a club or battle DJ, but it pays the bills.

Sadly, the industry as a whole seems to ignore this fact, catering to the club DJ’s because, well i guess because that’s a lot cooler. – but the software & hardware ends up not quite optimized for the largest market.

So I ask: “Will it work at a wedding?” (Then I puke, but that’s reality.)

Reality check:

The overwhelming majority of professional DJ’s don’t work in clubs, they do weddings and private parties. Yes, it’s an incredibly lame thing compared to a club or battle DJ, but it pays the bills.

Sadly, the industry as a whole seems to ignore this fact, catering to the club DJ’s because, well i guess because that’s a lot cooler. – but the software & hardware ends up not quite optimized for the largest market.

So I ask: “Will it work at a wedding?” (Then I puke, but that’s reality.)

Reality check:

The overwhelming majority of professional DJ’s don’t work in clubs, they do weddings and private parties. Yes, it’s an incredibly lame thing compared to a club or battle DJ, but it pays the bills.

Sadly, the industry as a whole seems to ignore this fact, catering to the club DJ’s because, well i guess because that’s a lot cooler. – but the software & hardware ends up not quite optimized for the largest market.

So I ask: “Will it work at a wedding?” (Then I puke, but that’s reality.)

I played out a show a few nights were they already had a Rane mixer and 2 Techs set up. I told the sound guy, “No Thanks. Can we put the lids on these please?”. We put lids on the decks, which were already sitting in thier flight cases. Stuck my S4 on top, plugged in, and away we went. Zero issues with anyone. I think the sound guy was genuinelly curious about my oversized video game controller on steroids.. :P

This was my first real gig in a legit nightclub as well. (I had so much adreneline pumping through my system, you would have thought I was about to jump out of an airplane..lol) I found it helped to be patient, and polite with the staff and ownership. You get more with honey than you do with vinegar, especially if you are basically DJ No Name to them.

If you do have resistance from staff, I might suggest letting them know you are using state of the art technology which improves the customers overall experience, which will inturn generate them more money. The staff are there to provide a service to thier customers, and make money. Period. They’ll let you get up there with an iPad hooked up to a PS3 controller if you can convince them it will make them $$,$$$.

If you are already fairly established, I would mention other popular venues in the area you have played at with the equipment, killed it there that night, and had zero issues. I think this would be more convincing than randomly thowing out famous DJ names that the staff may, or may not know, or like.

Last resort I would say “Let me play out using my equipment this one time. If you dont like how it turns out, next time I’ll use your gear.” or “This laptop is only ser up for Traktor and the S4, may Serato gear is at home.”..lol I would say this even if I had no intention of ever using thier turntables, just so I wouldn’t come off as a dick. If you end up resorting to these, you will need to be on your A game for your set..lol

I really dont get the whole discrimination deal. If a band shows up to play a gig, are they just expected play whatever random old gear the venue has? Hell no. Never. Its like a modern keyboard player showing up, and they are like “No, you can’t use that sick new Korg, you have to use the old saloon piano in the corner cause thats what weve been using for the last 20 years”..lol

I played out a show a few nights were they already had a Rane mixer and 2 Techs set up. I told the sound guy, “No Thanks. Can we put the lids on these please?”. We put lids on the decks, which were already sitting in thier flight cases. Stuck my S4 on top, plugged in, and away we went. Zero issues with anyone. I think the sound guy was genuinelly curious about my oversized video game controller on steroids.. :P

This was my first real gig in a legit nightclub as well. (I had so much adreneline pumping through my system, you would have thought I was about to jump out of an airplane..lol) I found it helped to be patient, and polite with the staff and ownership. You get more with honey than you do with vinegar, especially if you are basically DJ No Name to them.

If you do have resistance from staff, I might suggest letting them know you are using state of the art technology which improves the customers overall experience, which will inturn generate them more money. The staff are there to provide a service to thier customers, and make money. Period. They’ll let you get up there with an iPad hooked up to a PS3 controller if you can convince them it will make them $$,$$$.

If you are already fairly established, I would mention other popular venues in the area you have played at with the equipment, killed it there that night, and had zero issues. I think this would be more convincing than randomly thowing out famous DJ names that the staff may, or may not know, or like.

Last resort I would say “Let me play out using my equipment this one time. If you dont like how it turns out, next time I’ll use your gear.” or “This laptop is only ser up for Traktor and the S4, may Serato gear is at home.”..lol I would say this even if I had no intention of ever using thier turntables, just so I wouldn’t come off as a dick. If you end up resorting to these, you will need to be on your A game for your set..lol

I really dont get the whole discrimination deal. If a band shows up to play a gig, are they just expected play whatever random old gear the venue has? Hell no. Never. Its like a modern keyboard player showing up, and they are like “No, you can’t use that sick new Korg, you have to use the old saloon piano in the corner cause thats what weve been using for the last 20 years”..lol

I played out a show a few nights were they already had a Rane mixer and 2 Techs set up. I told the sound guy, “No Thanks. Can we put the lids on these please?”. We put lids on the decks, which were already sitting in thier flight cases. Stuck my S4 on top, plugged in, and away we went. Zero issues with anyone. I think the sound guy was genuinelly curious about my oversized video game controller on steroids.. :P

This was my first real gig in a legit nightclub as well. (I had so much adreneline pumping through my system, you would have thought I was about to jump out of an airplane..lol) I found it helped to be patient, and polite with the staff and ownership. You get more with honey than you do with vinegar, especially if you are basically DJ No Name to them.

If you do have resistance from staff, I might suggest letting them know you are using state of the art technology which improves the customers overall experience, which will inturn generate them more money. The staff are there to provide a service to thier customers, and make money. Period. They’ll let you get up there with an iPad hooked up to a PS3 controller if you can convince them it will make them $$,$$$.

If you are already fairly established, I would mention other popular venues in the area you have played at with the equipment, killed it there that night, and had zero issues. I think this would be more convincing than randomly thowing out famous DJ names that the staff may, or may not know, or like.

Last resort I would say “Let me play out using my equipment this one time. If you dont like how it turns out, next time I’ll use your gear.” or “This laptop is only ser up for Traktor and the S4, may Serato gear is at home.”..lol I would say this even if I had no intention of ever using thier turntables, just so I wouldn’t come off as a dick. If you end up resorting to these, you will need to be on your A game for your set..lol

I really dont get the whole discrimination deal. If a band shows up to play a gig, are they just expected play whatever random old gear the venue has? Hell no. Never. Its like a modern keyboard player showing up, and they are like “No, you can’t use that sick new Korg, you have to use the old saloon piano in the corner cause thats what weve been using for the last 20 years”..lol

Come on Ean ! , I have a decent dj booth with no so many space for “extra” toys , but i have 2 cdj2000+2 denon 3700′s+ djm800 , if a dj can’t do the job with my things i’m not interested in him .

Come on Ean ! , I have a decent dj booth with no so many space for “extra” toys , but i have 2 cdj2000+2 denon 3700′s+ djm800 , if a dj can’t do the job with my things i’m not interested in him .

Come on Ean ! , I have a decent dj booth with no so many space for “extra” toys , but i have 2 cdj2000+2 denon 3700′s+ djm800 , if a dj can’t do the job with my things i’m not interested in him .

Additions:
Pete thong
Anton Pieete
Daniel Sanchez
Reboot
nic Fanciulli
Umek
Carl Cox
Booka shade

Some pretty big names I know are digital dj’s

Additions:
Pete thong
Anton Pieete
Daniel Sanchez
Reboot
nic Fanciulli
Umek
Carl Cox
Booka shade

Some pretty big names I know are digital dj’s

Additions:
Pete thong
Anton Pieete
Daniel Sanchez
Reboot
nic Fanciulli
Umek
Carl Cox
Booka shade

Some pretty big names I know are digital dj’s

I’m sorry but as I read this post I couldn’t help but think of how little the next generation of djs are going to care about knowing how to use turntables or cdjs. Its like telling my kid you’ll never learn to write a paper or a book if u don’t learn to write it with a pencil and paper because those darn computers and your typing will never let u become a great writer.

The content and you’re style is what will make you a great dj not the fact that you know how to beatmatch on some old 1200s. Now with technology djing and beatmatching is not this rear skill that takes years to prefect.

Bottom line, now its about who can be more creative and what can u do with 4 decks and all the effects. Because anyone can mix from one deck to the other now.

I’m sorry but as I read this post I couldn’t help but think of how little the next generation of djs are going to care about knowing how to use turntables or cdjs. Its like telling my kid you’ll never learn to write a paper or a book if u don’t learn to write it with a pencil and paper because those darn computers and your typing will never let u become a great writer.

The content and you’re style is what will make you a great dj not the fact that you know how to beatmatch on some old 1200s. Now with technology djing and beatmatching is not this rear skill that takes years to prefect.

Bottom line, now its about who can be more creative and what can u do with 4 decks and all the effects. Because anyone can mix from one deck to the other now.

I’m sorry but as I read this post I couldn’t help but think of how little the next generation of djs are going to care about knowing how to use turntables or cdjs. Its like telling my kid you’ll never learn to write a paper or a book if u don’t learn to write it with a pencil and paper because those darn computers and your typing will never let u become a great writer.

The content and you’re style is what will make you a great dj not the fact that you know how to beatmatch on some old 1200s. Now with technology djing and beatmatching is not this rear skill that takes years to prefect.

Bottom line, now its about who can be more creative and what can u do with 4 decks and all the effects. Because anyone can mix from one deck to the other now.

Christopher & Kurt!

It´s not about the tools it´s how you preform. And you can´t get 25 years of deejay experience because of a syncbutton. I think the crowd has been ” Feed with unskilled ” and ” Just play music deejays ”

Keep your heads up high!!!!!!

/25 years + and still going strong with CDJ, VCI and 1210:s

Enought Said!

Christopher & Kurt!

It´s not about the tools it´s how you preform. And you can´t get 25 years of deejay experience because of a syncbutton. I think the crowd has been ” Feed with unskilled ” and ” Just play music deejays ”

Keep your heads up high!!!!!!

/25 years + and still going strong with CDJ, VCI and 1210:s

Enought Said!

Christopher & Kurt!

It´s not about the tools it´s how you preform. And you can´t get 25 years of deejay experience because of a syncbutton. I think the crowd has been ” Feed with unskilled ” and ” Just play music deejays ”

Keep your heads up high!!!!!!

/25 years + and still going strong with CDJ, VCI and 1210:s

Enought Said!

Amen.

Amen.

Amen.

Before they invented the automobile, people walked. Now that you have a car do you still walk to the store?

And isn’t it your choice as a human to use what suits you best?

As it’s our choice as dj’s, hobbyists, and controllerists to do whatever the hell we choose?

If you put someone that beatmatches perfectly, next to someone that hits sync on a controller, are you going to tell me that you can hear a difference?

If you want to get to the moon you have to use a spaceship. Does that make using a spaceship cheating? Or are you just satisfied with sitting here on earth beatmatching?

Before they invented the automobile, people walked. Now that you have a car do you still walk to the store?

And isn’t it your choice as a human to use what suits you best?

As it’s our choice as dj’s, hobbyists, and controllerists to do whatever the hell we choose?

If you put someone that beatmatches perfectly, next to someone that hits sync on a controller, are you going to tell me that you can hear a difference?

If you want to get to the moon you have to use a spaceship. Does that make using a spaceship cheating? Or are you just satisfied with sitting here on earth beatmatching?

Before they invented the automobile, people walked. Now that you have a car do you still walk to the store?

And isn’t it your choice as a human to use what suits you best?

As it’s our choice as dj’s, hobbyists, and controllerists to do whatever the hell we choose?

If you put someone that beatmatches perfectly, next to someone that hits sync on a controller, are you going to tell me that you can hear a difference?

If you want to get to the moon you have to use a spaceship. Does that make using a spaceship cheating? Or are you just satisfied with sitting here on earth beatmatching?

I am unsure if this is the right place to drop my 2 cents so forgive me if I am offending anyone.

We are in a highly experimental period of digital djing. Through alot of the “programming” done on midi mapping and modifications you can work to stand your effects out to the umpteenth level. I am worried that alot of the program manufacturers in an attempt to eventually simplify everything causes us to lose some of that possibility (maybe market expansion etc). I am not saying that as humans we will not search for the next way to stand out and create I just hope that this level of creativity is kept up.

Thank you.

I am unsure if this is the right place to drop my 2 cents so forgive me if I am offending anyone.

We are in a highly experimental period of digital djing. Through alot of the “programming” done on midi mapping and modifications you can work to stand your effects out to the umpteenth level. I am worried that alot of the program manufacturers in an attempt to eventually simplify everything causes us to lose some of that possibility (maybe market expansion etc). I am not saying that as humans we will not search for the next way to stand out and create I just hope that this level of creativity is kept up.

Thank you.

I am unsure if this is the right place to drop my 2 cents so forgive me if I am offending anyone.

We are in a highly experimental period of digital djing. Through alot of the “programming” done on midi mapping and modifications you can work to stand your effects out to the umpteenth level. I am worried that alot of the program manufacturers in an attempt to eventually simplify everything causes us to lose some of that possibility (maybe market expansion etc). I am not saying that as humans we will not search for the next way to stand out and create I just hope that this level of creativity is kept up.

Thank you.

For house, minimal and other producer focused music- you are probably right. Urei mixers and turntables are great controllers. However for other style of music and styles of mixing, then that technology really starts to fall down.

Controllerism, like anything is a journey of exploration. Some find a meaningful destination, and others do not.

For house, minimal and other producer focused music- you are probably right. Urei mixers and turntables are great controllers. However for other style of music and styles of mixing, then that technology really starts to fall down.

Controllerism, like anything is a journey of exploration. Some find a meaningful destination, and others do not.

For house, minimal and other producer focused music- you are probably right. Urei mixers and turntables are great controllers. However for other style of music and styles of mixing, then that technology really starts to fall down.

Controllerism, like anything is a journey of exploration. Some find a meaningful destination, and others do not.

I agree completely… My point was to the fact that a person without some sort of musical knowledge will not be able to continuously mix from track to track without it sounding ridiculous…

I met a guy today with $5000 worth of equipment poured in a DVS system. I’d say the less than $500 I’ve spent on my Spin and MPD26 have taken me a lot farther than his has. I was mostly bothered by his “my parents bought me these” and “yeah i’m pretty good” attitude when he couldn’t beatmatch or mix.

The part that was even worse was that he has had gigs and has more gigs lined up. I heard his “set” tonight and it sounded like a poor iTunes playlist of common college songs. Bah, I see no art in the press play vinyl DJ…

Exactly! They’re tools… use them. The generations before us said the same boring thing when DJing first started. “You’re not even playing any instruments, you’re just pressing play and using other peoples songs…”. Now here is the newer generation “You’re not even beatmatching”… Wow. Maybe we should regress further and start making separate bathrooms for controllerists and “DJ’s”… Why is it that people hate on progress? I guess it’s always been that way. I guess just do what you do and stay out of each others way if people can’t get over it.

[...] from “Would It Work In A Club? The Wrong Litmus Test” Written by Ean [...]

Thank you for this article, Ean. As a resident club DJ, I’m often frustrated by the restrictions that are placed on my DJing by the expectations of the patrons and owners of the venue. I’d like to add another culprit, too, to the mix: other DJs.

Occasionally the club is rented by a private party, and some of them bring their own DJ. These middle-aged, exclusively male DJs are established local party or wedding DJs, may have done the occasional club gig, and, for the most part, have left me seriously unimpressed. Most DJs who use computers only do so because it’s an easy way to carry around and search a massive music library. The closest any of them came to practical controllerism was one dude who unloaded his Numark Mixdeck (!) from a slick black trailer and cycled through staple party songs via Virtual DJ.

If working DJs, like physicians, were required (by the industry, by their competitors) to keep abreast of new methods and tech, we’d expand our opportunities for public performance with controllers.

You also can add the DJ and producer Gregg Gillis, a.k.a. Girl Talk,
who plays with his Windows laptop and a mouse only..
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/rolling-stone-video-blog/girl-talk-takes-rolling-stone-on-a-tour-of-his-computer-20110412

I’m not a pro DJ by any means…but why is everyone bashing?! DJing and Producing is an art form! Not everyone who is an artist uses the same equipment…paint, pencil, pastel, etc. It’s what you like to do and want to do….doesn’t matter how you do it. To each his own. I dunno about everyone else but I just wanna say that this website has taught me A TON! It’s guys like Ean that keep the art alive and open to new eyes. I just want to keep on a positive note because that’s what it’s all about…having fun. It’s about progression…and taking things to new places! DJTT FTMFW! Much love from SLC,UT.

@ Zach Smith- I couldn’t agree with you more. DJTT has taught me so much and inspired me to want to be creative and get into the art of controllerism. Not to become a turtableist and what’s worng with that? I don’t want to scratch so why would I need turntables or expensive cdjs. I can beat match but I’m not trying to spend time beatmatching when I can be doing other creative things with those 10-15 seconds. Does that make me any less of an artist/dj? If so how? I can mix in key and I have good timing but people want to call me a button masher and say I’m not a real dj if I use sync. I wonder how many of these “real” dj’s even know what a pentatonic scale is? I’ve played guitar, piano and drums for the past 10 years. So I ask this of DJTT, what’s the differenc creating music by playing keys on a piano and creating music by hitting a hot-cue on a controller? And how is this any less than a dj cutting up a song on a turntable? I think they are all lagitimate vehicles for expressing one’s artistic creativity. So why bash anyone who is simply enjoing what they do with the technology the personaly favor? Thank you DJTT for all of your hard work. This site is second to none.

well said.

Its not all people ‘who cant beatmatch hit sync’.
Using traktor 2 I use a feature that only sync’s the bpm and lets you beatmatch manually. digitally it just makes beatmatching a lot quicker and give time to do more with your mix, add samples, effects, prepare the second tune to drop with the first, just a lot more room to get creative, its evolution, don’t be scared of the future..

justice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR2yjukbeeo

If you’re a working club DJ then “will it work in a club?” is a valid argument. If you’re a bedroom DJ, then the “who cares?” approach is the valid argument.

Many many Thanks man! If they don’t like it, they should just keep out.

I love this article. Too many DJs follow mainstream music in order to keep or pursue their dream DJ job. Just keep networking with the right people and playing the music you love the way you want it to be expressed. It shouln’t be your primary job anyway! Wonderful people who may help you in the future will follow because you’re a trend-maker instead of a trend-follower.

Good Article DJTT! 

YES YES thank you, best post I’ve heard thus far! 

Add chris liebing and pete tong to the list!!!

Add chris liebing and pete tong to the list!!!

Sonny and Joel use Ableton so the controllers are really there to enable them to remix their own songs on the fly for their live sets. Recently there was a pic of Joel with a A&H mixer, with two iPads an iPhone running Touch OSC, and IIRC two X1′s. all connected to his 17″mbp running ableton.

Sonny and Joel use Ableton so the controllers are really there to enable them to remix their own songs on the fly for their live sets. Recently there was a pic of Joel with a A&H mixer, with two iPads an iPhone running Touch OSC, and IIRC two X1′s. all connected to his 17″mbp running ableton.

Sonny and Joel use Ableton so the controllers are really there to enable them to remix their own songs on the fly for their live sets. Recently there was a pic of Joel with a A&H mixer, with two iPads an iPhone running Touch OSC, and IIRC two X1′s. all connected to his 17″mbp running ableton.

Very good article. And the litmus test analogy is clever.

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the video goes wrong like in the half but the firts 15 min uffff

Just play the music and you will be fine.

Just because DJ’s like Richie Hawtin or Dubfire use controllers, it doesn’t legitimize the notion that any tom, dick and harry can be allowed to take over the booth of any club and play 10 different remixes of Levels or some 96kbps youtube rip (yeah I’ve actually witnessed that). Before all this controller bullshit existed you’d go to the club to hear music that you wouldn’t hear elsewhere, the experience of clubbing felt alot more exclusive, now it’s all the same predictable music one club after the other chosen by kids who are desperate for fame.

ZEDD and Porter Robinson exclusively use s4′s!