MIDI Enabled DJ Mixers

Midi-Mixer

The DJ console has come a long way since Francis Grasso plied his trade with the first stereo mixers.  Today DJs have digital, analog, MIDI, and hybrid mixers. While analog, digital and MIDI are married among the available controls, great possibilities await for hybrids.  Well that’s what the advertising promises.  Do they live up to the hype?  Let’s break down the available hybrids and see if any of them show promise.

HYBRID OR THE HIGHWAY?

Mixer manufacturers have looked towards the future and it is quite evident that the digital world is only going to expand further.  Analog will likely never go completely away, thanks to its warm, human character, but the real estate it occupies is now doing double duty with digital and MIDI, sometimes both.  Opening these possibilities becomes completely context sensitive and hard to totally encompass in a single article, but let’s look at a couple of the mixers available and dip into what new avenues open up for us as digital DJs.

ALLEN & HEATH XONE:4D

Allen & Heath offer this no joke mixer more at home in the pro DJ’s studio or atop a two story stage during a five day festival  in Europe. At just under an arm and a leg the Xone:4D stays true to A&H’s quality, solid workmanship and design.

  • $2,599.99 – $2,999.99
  • 105 controls in two sections with 227 MIDI messages
  • Shift mode allows seamless switching between program layers
  • MIDI Merge allows for a peripheral (e.g. a keyboard) to be intergraded into the DVS
  • 4 stereo/analog in & 1 stereo/digital in
  • 4 stereo/analog out & 1 stereo/digital out
  • 20 channel USB 2.0 soundcard 96 kHz/ 24 bit
  • BPM push and pull MIDI time clock
  • All new BPM detector circuit
  • Award winning filters and effects built in

RANE SIXTY-EIGHT

Rane has teamed up with Serato and pre-mapped this monster mixer with scratch live functions and features like dual USB ports for uninterrupted seamless switching between DJ’s  or parallel mixes. It is sure to stand out huge amongst the club DJs.

  • $2,599 – $3,299.99
  • Scratch live mapped and full midi functionality
  • Two MIDI sections with 12 buttons and 2 endless encoders
  • Two USB ports for real time switching or mix in parallel with two laptops
  • Two 2.0 USB ports 32bit soundcard with 22 channels @48 kHz
  • 4 channels with line/phono/spdif inputs
  • Built in effects section
  • FlexFX for multiple support of effects, hardware and software based
  • Headphone split cue
  • FlexFX mix levels

PMC-05ProIV

The PMC series is a staple in the turntablist’s kitchen and now with cue points and effects being directly mapped to your fingertips, this hybrid mixer is sure to be rolling out some hybrid mixes and juggles.

  • Around $1000
  • 13 midi functions per channel
  • New digital cross fader
  • Compatible with CoreAudio and ASIO
  • Transformer switch per channel
  • Effects send and return
  • USB port for computer connectivity

BEHRINGER DDM4000

Behringer steps into the ring with the DDM4000 digital knockout that’s sure to please the digital DJ. With features like EQ kill as well as sync for effects, cross fader and sampler this mixer will be going more then three rounds.

  • Sells for $399
  • 32-bit digital mixer with beat-synchronized sampler
  • 4 multi-FX sections, 2 BPM counters, digital X fader and MIDI
  • 4 Phono/Line stereo channels allowing a max of 8 signal sources to be connected simultaneously
  • 2 Microphone inputs with Gain, EQ, Talk function and FX
  • 4 stereo channels with Gain, programmable parametric 3-band EQ with Kill function, fader curve control and flexible cross fader assignment
  • Fully featured MIDI controller for your DJ software
  • Sophisticated sampler with beat-controlled loop function, real-time pitch control, sampler FX and cross fader start option
  • 2 freely assignable and BPM-synchronized, high-quality FX engines (Bit crusher, Resonator, Reverb, Flanger, and more).

ECLER NUO 4 (DISCONTINUED)

Ecler offers this simple yet power-packed four plus one channel mixer which is perfect for the crossover DJ looking to expand their skills into the software world. A smooth layout and MIDI features push this mixer into the new standard level for inspiring DJs everywhere.

  • $700 to $800
  • 4 MIDI knobs and eight buttons
  • 3 effects scenes
  • Deck A and B toggle button
  • MIDI clock
  • No audio interface
  • Replaced by Nuo4.0 which had no Midi

PIONEER DJM-800

Pioneer has this new version of the DJM but can now offer a massive MIDI functioning mixer. Features recommended by many professional DJs and club engineers have been jammed into the DJM-800 and it is raising the bar on sound fidelity and ease of mixer operation.

  • $1,000 to $1,500
  • 96 kHz / 24-bit digital mixer
  • High-fidelity sound (32-bit sound processor)
  • 61 fully assignable MIDI controls
  • 4 sound color effects
  • 13 beat effects, including roll sampler
  • Large, bright dot matrix display

FUTURISTIC FOOLS OR JACK OF ALL TRADES?

What is the future for hybrid mixers? Is there room for these types of products in a fast growing market?  The answer is not really clear. With Ecler and Numark discontinuing several MIDI-mixers, there may be clear signs of a soft market. On many of these mixers, the MIDI-implementation seems to be just an after-thought or an extra feature requested by the marketing team, not an innovative new look at DJing. We are interested in hearing what you, the community, has to say- how do these products fit into your DJing picture?

This is Rifki’s first article for DJTT, lets show a little DJTT appreciation for his work.

  • http://www.metachemical.ca Metachemical

    I think the future lies in these kinds of devices, I just don’t think they have been done particularily well as of yet. For example the Korg Zero 4 and 8 were buggy, and lacked buttons of play control. I owned the DDM4000, and the midi implementation of it was fantastic. I could use channels 1 and 4 to use as play control while using 2 and 3 as audio…. what I really want to see is a well built unit like the Rane, but with 4 rows of buttons and rotaries for play control. I love the idea of showing up with just the mixer and laptop. I also believe a successful device will be laid out with Traktor and Live in mind, to capture both sides of the market. Making devices specifically for one program (ala the Itch specific units) are a mistake – advantages of tight integration aren’t worth the lack of choice.

  • http://www.ilektron.com Mudo

    Metachemical +1

    and add:

    Controller surface + (focusrite kind) soundcard are killing the most part of analog2digital mixers make them only for “classic” (?) turntable or cdj sound sources… not really interesting for “stream apple wished future”.

    Innofader make the bad mixers, good “cutters” and grid surfaces (monome, launchpad, apc, maschine, midi fighters…) are the “cue/slice” mashers of this new era.

    Qfo with midi/hid/osc support like v7+xfader (good one please) will be a great product.

    Who needs a mixer? We need control over laptops!

    ;)

  • Supertrooper

    I’m looking for an external mixer(controller) to use with Traktor Pro. I basically need 4 faders, a crossfader and knobs to control EQ.. I’ve got two Kontrol X1 controllers to control decks and fx of Traktor. I don’t use anything else other than Traktor (no CD players, Turntables and such).

    Anyone?

  • Chris Jennings

    Great article! I’ve been drooling over the Denon DN-X1600. If I don’t get this new NI controller I think the Denon will be it for me.

  • dj-react

    I’m surprised you left out the new denon mixers. I just picked up the dn-x1600 and must say its one of the best mixers I’ve ever used if not the best. The MIDI strip on in is great. I do think having a MIDI capable mixer was a good decision but its still a little bit away from being perfect. I still use the dicer along with it. maybe you guys need to design a mixer with a mini MIDI fighter built in.

  • Lushys

    Until you touch a 4D, there is no comparison. The thing is sturdy as a rock and has functionality moving well beyond mixing/effects and into the studio as a production tool to boot. When you compare the price of a high end midi controller and a high end mixer to the price of the 4D, the few extra hundred are just going toward industry leading design and perfection. Yes, Pioneer is considered tops by most, but I’ve seen more dead pioneer mixers then I could count, I’ve NEVER seen a dead A&H product.

  • http://www.deadmanzkassette.com jasonmd2020

    I actually have a DDM4000 I use with my band. I know Behringer has a bad reputation, but this mixer has never failed me live or recording our album. The midi has a modular approach to the set up so you can configure some contols to audio & some to midi and has 8 user setups to save the configuration. I use the main for channels as audio, and have the mic channel & sampler audio sections configured for midi control.

  • http://sonof8bits.com/ JordyVision

    I’ve always been using Traktor in external mode with midi-gear for Traktor’s controls and FX. Having an all-in-one solution would be great but I can also see myself using Ableton to mix using an external mixer with midi. I Never DJ’ed with Ableton except for making mixes for (internet-) radio. Using the midi to control the tracks in Ableton and the built in soundcard to output it like a normal external mixer does would make that seem more pratical.

    A KORG Zero4 is headed my way, so I can put this theory to the test soon. Along with enjoying the scratch readiness of the device.

  • DJ R3 Bonaire

    +1 for Denon X1600 – 1700 mixers being left out. Maybe Denon aint the industry standard but these 2 have possibly everything better than all above and besides the cheap Behringer gives the best price for most possible connections and midi mappings.
    Also what is not told is that DJM800 has only 1 MIDI 5 pin output. So it only allows software control and no talk back to the unit.The DJM does not produce the sound but only controls your software faders and rotaries.Kind of expensieve… No USB connect means one needs a sound card with 5 pin MIDI in. M-audio Fast Track or NI AK1 and Audio 8 have this.
    So for SUPERTROOPER this might be some advice, Look at the DENON’s. This unit is sound card and midi control and 4ch mixer in 1 and with a push of the ch buttons a instant analog mixer.And a row of dual ch effects.
    •4-Channel Digital DJ Mixer with Studio Quality Components & Specifications
    •Worlds First Professional DJ Mixer w/32-Bit DAC Output
    •24 bit 96kHz USB2.0 Audio Interface (Soundcard) 4in/4out (stereo)
    •MAC OSX 10.6.4 and 32/64-Bit Windows Compatible
    •Low latency 32/64 Bit ASIO driver for PC included
    •USB MIDI In/Out and 5-pin MIDI Out
    •MIDI mapping for various software is available
    •Dual Layer Control Available – MIDI / Normal Audio
    •2 Independent Effectors w/12 Effects available for each
    Delay
    Echo
    Trans
    Flanger
    Filter
    Phaser
    Reverb
    Loop
    Rev. Loop
    Pitch Shift
    BeatBreaker
    Send/Return
    •2-way EFX Parameter Filter (LPF/HPF)
    •Independent EFX 1 & 2 Insert for, Channel, Mic, & Master
    •Matrix Input Assignment for Line/Phono and selectable USB Audio, Digital Input
    •Discrete FET Phono Preamp Stage (4 phono inputs)
    •Discrete Mic Circuit w/studio mixer quality specs
    •Discrete high powered Headphone Amp w/studio mixer quality specs
    •45mm Cross Fader (Flex Fader) w/tension adjust & A/B cut position preset
    •60mm CP Studio quality Alps K-Type Channel Fader
    •Fader Contour control for Channel and Cross Fader
    •Fader Start function (channel/cross fader)
    •Cross Fader assignment function: (A, B, Thru)
    •Independent 3-Band Isolator EQ w/Kills (High-Mid-Low)
    •3.5 inch TFT Color Display w/animated easy navigation
    •4 Digital Inputs (coaxial)
    •Selectable Digital Output (44.1/48/96kHz)
    •Balanced/Unbalanced Master Output
    •Balanced Booth Output
    •2 Mic Input w/Ducking level control
    •Send/Return for external effectors
    •Extensive Utility Menu to customize user settings
    •Preset Import/Export Function by USB memory device (take your settings to another X1700 mixer)
    •High Resolution 24 Segment Output Peak Meters
    •Dual Power Transformer construction for best possible specs (Digital/Analog sections)
    •Output Limiter function w/adjustable threshold (great for Club installers)
    THIS LAST FEATURE IS THE BEST FOR ANTY CLIPPING>>>>>>>
    do i have one? no i wish…..I have a DDM4000 but face the same MIDI 5 pin cable problem. No USB connector on this one too.
    Never the less the DDM is in my opinion the best money can get for what this unit has to offer. And The little sampler on the left makes a great 3e deck in a loop copy of a deck to mix out while changing track on a CDJ. Maybe Behringer aint the long life span brand but so far i used it every weekend for over a year and failure free. I had to borrow it to a friend because his DJM800 broke…Here we are talking a 1:4 price difference…
    PS i am not advertizing Denon or Behringer here…but giving some additional info that might be usefull and contributes to this nice article.
    Thumbs up DJTT.

  • deex

    @Supertrooper I have a very similar setup and have an A&H xone 42. It’s great, robust, and stands the test of time. Plus if your vinyl friends want to jam, no problem, all 4 channels have line in (2 line/phone, 2 line/line)

  • DJ R3 Bonaire

    i forgot about the new Pioneer DJM2000. Same price range as Rane and A&H. and has USB connect and fully asignable midi control and a cool touch screen EQ mix-over section..
    Haven’t seen it live or in store so far.

  • http://www.djtechtools.com pilmat

    I don’t think the list was meant to be exhaustive, but the Denon and DJM-2000 could easily be on there. Also the Ecler Evo4 and 5 could be on there too.
    What would be very interesting is how people are USING the midi functionality. Are you replacing a midi controller, expanding a midi controller, only using the odd function or not using any of it? And for clubbing DJs, is it worth hoping to find a mixer with midi at a club or just easier to bring your own midi device?
    I think the potential is huge, but only if it will be beneficial.
    ..
    Phil.

  • Shawn

    I love my Korg zero4 it’s long since discontinued but it sounds great. I use an A and H 1d along side to control traktor’s loops, effects and play lists. It’s more than enough to keep me occupied.
    best,

    sb

  • http://bestlegsmusic.com jorge muniz

    i just got the allen and heath xone 4d, and it completely rocks! while i love it, i feel like most do not care for it. most djs here only want to use the djm800.

    when we bring acts in they usually request that get a djm 800. would connecting my xone 4d to the djm be a dj no-no? (i want to make it my main midi controller)

  • http://www.dj-nvidia.com/ Dj Nvidia

    I think that this is the future of Dj’ing… Mainly because it allows for such universal access as well as back-up capabilities. Dj’ing is becoming more computer orientated (whether Dj’s like it or not) and systems like these help continue that trend.

    In addition, if Dj’s ever need to go back to use more traditional approaches (like Vinyl & CDs) these systems support that as well. I am a big proponent of adding features, not taking stuff away. So if a company wants to keep building good products it should negate the old (just because its old) but rather incorporate the old with the new and I think these mixers do that.

    If it wasn’t for the heafty prices on these bad boys (and the size) I would already have one….

  • kru-kut

    pretty soon every mixer will have at least one midi-component (knob, fader, etc).

    i am looking for a midi enabled mixer right now for use with serato video sl.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tos ToS

    It is a SIN (or at least frowned upon) to use Pioneer DJM mixer as passtrough for any Xone mixer (audio quality-wise).
    On the other hand most od us are mixing 44.100 192-320 mp3s and I don’t know how that quality of sound is affected by DJM (hope I make sense).
    What I consider way of next level MIDI-mixer integration is disconnecting Surface controls from audio channels in a way that you can use surface as MIDI but the mixer is still perfoming audio summing (I think EVO has that option).

    +1 for DENNON not supposed to be left out

  • Anonymous

    what about the korg-zero series?

  • JuanSOLO

    I’m really into the Hybrid style mixers. They are either too large, or smaller with out as many controls. The XONE-4D would be perfect if it had only 2 channels, No JOG wheels and was somehow squeezed together a bit more. Maybe if the top center knobs above the EQ were replaced with a button matrix. Something more Battle style, but still a monster controller.

    I know thats not for everybody, but to me it sounds great.

  • xbubbax

    i have the DDM4000, and now with the X1 no contact crossfader, this mixer is serious! i use it with traktor and the midi functions work flawlessly! ch1-2 for mixing ch3-4 all midi for effects,the sampler section is all midi fo cue / loop points.for the price this mixer is the best all around!

  • Mark Murder

    I have an Ecler Evo 5 and it is definitely hybrid and, with the exception of the Xone 4D, it probably kills everything else mentioned. I don’t know why you chose the Nuo4 to represent Ecler’s hybrid.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/ninjaontherocks NinjaOnTheRocks

    I know it’s not out yet, but has anyone been paying attention to the numark m6? it looks like a solid mixer with a dedicated channel for usb to computer and xlr out. The only thing i wish it had was effects. On a side note, can people speak more on the quality of the ddm4000? and how good of a fit it would be with my apc40/ableton, audio 4 dj, and macbook pro setup?

  • CrazyDutchman

    Laugh all you want, but I’ve been mixing with a BCR2000+BCF2000 combo for ages. Made a custom case for it. They last a year or so before needing replacement, but for the price you can keep a few extra :) Hey, motorized faders & endless supply of endless encoders. 4 decks at your fingertips.

    (combined with a decent firewire sound card, of course).

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  • p

    XONE 4D is just amazing. This is really a revolutionary product. But who needs a djm 800 with midi? there arent enough controls to control a software like traktor good enough. So you had to carry a second midi controller what destubes the advantage of an all in one product… Just my thoughts…

  • piopro

    I just done this finished this I have a ddm4000 spent 6 months mapping it to 4 deck or 2 deck control and love it the deck now are more redundant for me know so the next move for me would be a x:zone 4d or the 1d midi controllers for ritchie hawtin control al thought I still wana scratch so i well interested in the vms 4 and the new traktor controller my options are quite this is what i love about cotrollerism its completely custom so who need a industry standard the when it’s plug and play i do still use the vinyl when i play and have moved through the use CDJ’s but after that where do you go? i say take your own kit to gigs and plug in to there mixer from your master out and show your skills not the same skills as every1 else a industy standaed is limiting check out ths vid from deadmau5…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjHUDYiQINQ&feature=fvw

  • Lock Mess

    The Pioneer DJM-700 works great as a Mixer/Midi Controller. Paired with a X1 it gives me plenty of midi options for Traktor Pro. The 700′s price tag is much less then the DJM800 and it only has a few less midi functions. Owning many Rane and A&H products I’ve always been a big advocate for Rane and A&H but this mixer has impressed me. I just wish there was a Innofader for it.

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  • elefanc

    Yes, no Denon DN-X1600 and DN-X1700 is a shame, this article is stuck in 2008, except the Rane’s one.
    And what is exactly the goal of this article ? Everyone can go on Thomann.de and enter “mixer+midi”… Yes i know it’s vacation time. But i know DjTT has better to offer.

  • Chris Jennings

    Not trying to turn this into a Denon advert, but the X1600 is also Traktor scratch certified.

  • DJ TUZA

    where are Denon mixers? DN-X1600/1700??? Ecler EVO series??? What a joke!!!

  • Jonny

    I have had the DDM 4000 for about a year and a half now and it has never, and I mean never, failed me. Personally, I like it better than the DJM 800 because all the controls are fully mappable and someone can, they wish to, assign midi and audio to it all at the same time. I love it so much in fact that the only way I’d move up is if I somehow got enough money to buy a XONE 4d or a RANE 68 (but in my opinion they are too much $$$!). The only thing I would change is the crossfader, as it is not very scratch friendly, but I don’t scratch that much in my sets anyway and it is fully replaceable. The Eclers are realllly nice, however, they are something I’d really like to get my hands on. The DJM is overrated, despite the fact that they are in every club, but then again so is Serato…

  • http://www.twitter.com/DJUrkelDee DJ Urkel Dee

    I have the Ecler Evo 4 and love the midi features… The four endless encoders are great… I am having a issue with the cross fader not being accurate as I’d like but the concept of the mixer is great!

  • jono

    i also own the ddm4000 and have been using it in a club environment 2-3 nights every week for the last year and half everything is still soild it has never let me down once except the first mic input on it stopped working proply after 4 months and the second one a month later and getting any kind of help in new zealand just doesn’t happen but you find ways around that. i used the midi side of the mixer for 5 months but as i still needed 2 channels for ttables it didn’t leave enuff buttons to assign and were just a little to close for a dark club so add another toy for midi have used the Pioneer ,ecler ,vestax over time even though Behringer has been given a bad rap and there surport well,, i love the ddm4000 better than the other midi mixers and (normal ones)i have used overtime that and the price well :-) have lost good gear to a drunk or 2(they never mean to or remember)i would buy another one tomorrow but hope i don’t have to / as for the crossfader nothing abit of cable glide ( crc ,sewing mach oil)and couple bits of metal glued under face plate of the crossfader ajusted to where it kicks in then it’s perfect for scratching

  • Beyond the Line

    I have the Denon DN-X 1700 and it is a M O N S T E R.
    Better than the DJM 800 by far

  • Beyond the Line

    You should have talked about it, on the other hand nobody cares about the VESTAX PMC-05 PRO4

  • http://listn.to/chekrah chad

    While alot of people say the 4D is one of the best hybrids out there, it is very restrictive in its layout. It provides a massive amount of control when various layers of midi are taken into account and options like Modifiers in Traktor are used.

    However I believe that for anyone moving to these sorts of mixers, its important to try before you buy. I bought the 4D for use with Ableton thinking it would solve all my problems. And for a while, it did. But I soon found the layout to be very fixed when applying it to my workflow. So I went and found a Lemur. And was instantly satisfied as I can create the controller I’m after. I now run both with Traktor+Ableton and it seems to be working.

    I guess the point of all that was to highlight that while these mixers may seem to have a large amount of functionality, they often fall into ‘niche’ scenarios. Each person’s workflow varies greatly and Digital DJs may find they prefer combining 2 or 3 items to create something that works for them.

  • KLH

    Silly rabbit, mixers are for kids. The future is MIDI controllers and a stable computer running ANY software you want.

    -KLH

  • http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11964 Double DutchDj

    I love me Zero41

  • http://soundcloud.com/ballsofsteel Balls of Steel

    The problem with these is that they’re pretty big and not very convenient for traveling with, and there’s no way all clubs are going to go buy the same MIDI mixer, so it’s not as if you can expect to have your particular model at any given club. If clubs were to standardize and all buy A&H Xone 4Ds, for example, then it’d be easy, but until there’s an industry standard, you have to have something more portable.

  • GrooveJunkie

    I don’t really see the point of these mixers

    The 4D is way too big to carry to a gig and clubs already have mixers installed anyway

    What is really needed is a good midi controller with an excellent sound card already in it

  • http://soundcloud.com/groups/fleater Pete

    [quote comment="34477"]what about the korg-zero series?[/quote]
    Hear hear………
    A friend bought a DJM-800 and its pants for MIDI!

  • vestaxxer

    Its all a matter of “certifiing”

  • Chris

    Funny to read this kind of article just after the NI revelation…

    Anyway, my point of view…
    The futur will be all about controllers…hybrid or not…
    coz most of the new dj generation are using controllers instead of the OLD cdj system…
    In the future, “the pioneer standard” club setup will disapear simply because classics old djs will disapear too !
    So in a near future, there’ll be place for controllers in clubs !

    Electronic Music is about evolution so it’s normal that the tools evolve too…if it gives us better possibilities, it’s stupid to continue to use old way. “old” djs like PVD, Hawtin… have already understood that…)

    Choose between hybrid or simply digital controllers is not really important to my eyes…If you really want to add warm to digital sound, there are plugins to do it…what is important to is to find the better controller as possible for my prefered dj software …don’t found it for the moment…

    If you want all the desired controls (enough faders, knobs, jogs…), the controller must be bigger than a vci 300…and must have a really good internal soundcard (to avoid several usb cables)…that’s what i’m waiting for.

    The clubs will adapt their set up for digital/controllers djs soon for sure

  • http://soundcloud.com/psylozen/ Psylozen

    I’ve had the DJM800 since they first came out. I was more looking for a good mixer than a midi controller, but the midi capabilities definitely played into my decision. The mixer itself is fantastic. Very rugged, nice f/x, sounds great, and I’ve never had any issues with it after a few years of gigging.
    The MIDI aspects of the mixer however, I can only label as FAIL. As mentioned above, there’s no USB connector, only DIN. It only sends midi, so there’s no led feedback, and you can’t slave the mixer to Traktor’s midi clock. But the biggest drawback is that the midi controls are just the standard mixer knobs and sliders which also send midi messages. If you’re just playing two decks, you can use the mixer controls of the other two channels to do midi stuff. I use all 4 channels on the mixer, 1 for traktor’s preview player, and the other 3 for mixing, which leaves me with next to no controls available to do midi stuff with.

    Feels like the midi was just tacked on as an afterthought, with no real plan…

  • http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11964 Double DutchDj

    Right, here’s why the zero 4 is simply the best for what I want, firstly I can control Traktors Clock from the zero 4′s clock or the other way round, each of the four channels can be a mixture of midi, all midi or all audio and the options are independent, it’s firewire!, more eq isolator and filter presets than you can shake a stick at. it’s the only four channel mixer that is scratch dj friendly(clutter free fader area, it’s slim = xfader in good position, pro x fader installed). It’s easy to route Traktors fx to the send & return = post fader fx. The delay’s and filters on it are awesome. Channel fx and master channel fx with nice fader for wet and Dry. Midi thru vis 5pin midi = my friend Maschine can set the tempo of the zero 4, Kore 2, Traktor and my Boss RC 50 sample pedal.
    ++++
    I currently have only a few midi controls on the zero4 mapped to traktor, The 1st channel is dedicated to NI’s kore 2 but because Kore 2 and Traktor can share the soundcard I can still play a signal from Traktor at the same time as kore2 on the same channel( so I don’t end up losing a Traktor deck). I’ve joined a band recently so this set up has been geared towards turning my kit in to an actual instrument as much as possible, eg, I can a play soft-synth via my midi keyboard and mess around with the different sound variation’s using midi mapped pots on my zero4, all while Trakor is recording and at a flick of a switch I can load it in to any of traktor’s virtual decks. To the left of the mixer I have one turntable with two Dicer’s mounted for quick hot cue setting or deleting, Within an instant the synth lead or fat dirty bass I was just playing on my midi keyboard is now sitting in a deck waiting to be scratched and cue point juggled. I only use one turntable because I’m not mixing when I’m with the band, so to get use out of Traktor’s other decks I mapped a couple of buttons on the zero4 to chose which virtual deck I want the turtable to control, tho I’ll most probably end up getting a midi foot pedal to do those jobs. But the best tool on the mixer for me is the tap tempo, There’s a fair bit of swing in the bpm when playing in the band, but once the beat is tapped in to the the zero 4, Traktor, kore 2, RC 50 sampler and the zero4 all sync up beautifully, all via firewire.

  • http://www.dj-nvidia.com/ Dj Nvidia

    [quote comment="34510"]Cool.

    The all mixers have in our website sell.
    http://www.dj-wholesale.com/mixers_c113

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    I love the DJ MIXERS.[/quote]

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  • piopro

    forgot about the Korg Mixer just as nice as a ddm 4 flexibility there is also the ecler vuno and there are just the same got to love the tech today

  • Teleport

    Anyone got a release date on that 05pro4? If that aint out soon ima save up and get a 4 channel, the TTM57 just dont have the layout i want

  • http://turntablepoetry.com dj professor ben

    Yeah those new vestax mixers look pretty sweet. I’m surprised the Mackies aren’t mentioned anywhere – http://www.mackie.com/products/d4pro/ – they’re traktor certified too. They look pretty nice but I’m not sure it would work with my workflow; I use a TTM-56 when I mix externally and I prefer plenty of space around the crossfader for scratching. Speaking of Rane though you gotta love Vestax’s ad for the new mixer – “This mixer will make all DJs night a vibrant one rather than a raney one.”

  • born

    I hope that new controller of NI have a “normal mixer” as xone4d etcc….The feeling of mixer midi is not really good!

  • DJ R3 Bonaire

    JONO, i had the same on the mic channels.The programmable in and out put locks up and it doesnt work any more. I had some one reset this section for me, well all settings were reset to default. So all user settings wil go away. I can’t remeber what buttons to hold and push to make this happen. I will ask the guy for you, or look in the manual. My mic channels are back to normal….

  • http://www.djayrage.com Djay Rage

    I also use the DJM800 & agree with the user above. The only function I really use the midi for is to control the video crossfade with the 800′s crossfader.

  • clnbdwy

    @Metachemical was the zero4 actually buggy? I need a new mixer and I just dont have the cash to shell out for the xone92 which is really what I want. I found a zero4 fairly cheap, but I wasnt aware that they had issues…I know the zero8 had a hum to it…is this the same issue?

  • Manus

    Do the Faders work fine with all these whilst using traktor? I find with my Uc-33e its a bit behind and not sharp enough or fast enough for me. And do the faders work alright when recording in internal mode on these midi enabled mixers?

  • http://zilchified.blogspot.com ivan zilch

    VESTAX PMC-05 PRO4 looks really yummy…….

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="34460"]I’m looking for an external mixer(controller) to use with Traktor Pro. I basically need 4 faders, a crossfader and knobs to control EQ.. I’ve got two Kontrol X1 controllers to control decks and fx of Traktor. I don’t use anything else other than Traktor (no CD players, Turntables and such).

    Anyone?[/quote]

    the DDM4000 is basically what you’re looking for. i have almost the same set up (one kontrol x1, traktor pro, dicer & akai keyboard). but yeah the DDM4000 will bring it all together well

  • http://www.RotemAyalon.com Rotem Ayalon

    Iv’e been usind the DJM-800 for over 4 years now.
    as a former Traktor Scratch user (currently a Traktor Scratch Pro user) Iv’e been using the MIDI functionality on the mixer for a long time now.
    it’s hooked up to my Audio 8 via a midi cable. most functions I control in Traktor via the mixer are Master Clock Tempo (and type), control over the filter of traktors (instead of the mixer’s built in filter). also mapped folder/playlist browsing capabilities thru the mixer, but ever since I bought 2 Kontrol X1′s and Maschine (all about 6 months ago) I’m using the mixer’s midi options less.

  • FUFR

    ok, who decided to hire a color blind productdesigner at Vestax?

  • S.O.

    I have Nuo4 and used those MIDI features a lot (now i’m using X-1). It’s great mixer, but not as common as Pioneers or A&H in clubs, so when i want use MIDI on gig, i have to bring my own mixer to club. And if they have one in there, need to upload my own config to mixer, backup their etc.
    Extra controller is better way for me.

  • http://raylus.tumblr.com raylus

    ecler evo 5 ftw, i love her.

  • http://computerpaul.blogspot.com Computer Paul

    I’d like something that’s biased a lot more towards being a controller but with an analog mixer section. I want my VCI-100 but with no faders – they are useless on the vci 100 for cutting and the internal compression or whatever in traktor makes long smooth house blends very hard to pull off with the excitement and bangingness you get on a real mixer.

    but i love all the other controls on the vci, the jog wheels, the efx control, the DJTT maps… just give me an analog mixer to bolt on beneath it with super high quality i/o and then i don’t need a separate sound card. the vci-300 sort of does this but it is more of a toy and again i don’t want the faders. i’d love for my signal to go through the analog section before being converted back to digital for internal routing and mixing – 1 d/a and 1 a/d to run through the analog mixer is worth it to get that sound. i feel like my mixes are too smooth and not dynamic enough when i just use the vci 100 and traktor’s internal mixer. it doesn’t sound like house to me.

  • DJ LP

    I have owned the DDM 4000 for 9 months. This mixer is incredible. I have it customized with my own Traktor mapping. Its one of the best buys ever. However the fader went out and it was a pain to replace.

  • http://www.dj-wholesale.com/mixers_c113 DJ Mixers

    [quote comment="34589"]I also use the DJM800 & agree with the user above. The only function I really use the midi for is to control the video crossfade with the 800′s crossfader.[/quote]
    I have the same

    thanks.

  • http://www.gianpaj.com GianPaJ

    So surprised nobody has mentioned the American Audio VMS4 !
    http://www.adjaudio.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ItemNumber=1447&Category=CD_Players

    I would like to try it before buying it. And the last thing is stopping me from selling my Audio 8 for traktor is that it’s not Scratch certified so no timecodes but in reality i don’t use them…
    I might just sell my Denon mixer, Faderfox controller and soundcard and buy a VMS4…

    Any good review with Traktor Pro?

  • http://www.twitter.com/ThatDJEll Ell

    Does the bahranger not have efx in and outs? have a pioneer efx 500 box i use…
    and how would you get the crossfader to control audio and video with video sl

  • http://www.djtechtools.com/2010/07/28/midi-enabled-dj-mixers/#more-7169 Dj Frankie

    [quote comment="34472"]I love my Korg zero4 it’s long since discontinued but it sounds great. I use an A and H 1d along side to control traktor’s loops, effects and play lists. It’s more than enough to keep me occupied.
    best,

    sb[/quote]

    Hell Yeah Korg Zero 4 !!!

  • http://www.redvoidmusic.com/blog/ redvoid

    I will echo the (discontinued) Korg sentiments. I have the Zero-8 and the flexibility to redefine almost any knob, button or slider as a midi or an audio function with 16in/16out firewire audio, and midi and a vast digital patchbay of freely assignable inputs to any channel has served me very well. Function wise, I don’t envy even the Ecler Evo-5 or Xone:4D, though I will say I would prefer the design of the Evo-5 to my Korg, the build quality of either over the Korg, and the layout of Xone:4D controls is well thought through and enticing, but since I paid less than half the cost of either, and the 4D is still doing long latency USB audio, I am still quite happy about my decision.

  • joe

    [quote comment="34460"]I’m looking for an external mixer(controller) to use with Traktor Pro. I basically need 4 faders, a crossfader and knobs to control EQ.. I’ve got two Kontrol X1 controllers to control decks and fx of Traktor. I don’t use anything else other than Traktor (no CD players, Turntables and such).

    Anyone?[/quote]
    xone 92 all the way!! they’re amazing.

  • ps

    found this while searching for a mixer. i am NOT a dj, but been looking at dj mixers because i want to use a couple choice pieces of music hardware live, and thought a dj mixer would be a fun way to integrate them.

    WHAT IS UP WITH THESE PRICES!?!?!??!?! seriously, is there some conspiracy among dj mixer manufacturers to keep prices this absurd? compare those top mixers to a yamaha 01v96vcm mixer. i mean! come on. the yamaha is CHEAPER than those, and the routing/fx/midi possibilities are many times beyond what those mixers can do.

    16 analog ins (or 8 stereo channels!), 4 aux sends, 2 internal stereo high-end multi-effects processors, 26 four-band EQs, ADAT, 2×2 channels of S/PDIF, and full MIDI In/Out/Through, 22 dynamics processors, and fantastic routing customization. this thing is CHEAPER than the xone 4d and rane 68. CHEAPER!

    sorry, but the world DJ community seems to be getting ripped off. i mean, is a cross fader that expensive??

  • D Holling

    really bad idea

  • D Holling

    really bad idea

  • D Holling

    run on sentence much?

  • D Holling

    run on sentence much?

  • Wjc

    Ano mam X1600 a je to super mixer!!!!!!!Zvuk lepší než Pioneer

  • Himatter

    I dj analog vinyl and Serato but my main goal is to play the tracks I make in Ableton, serato was the answer.  Being a producer I want to do a live show, including or minus the turntables.  I need the hybrid for playing out, my keyboard midi controller is great for production at home but not for playing out.  I need the capabilities of a midi dj mixer and it would be nice if it played analog vinyl/Serato too.  Finding that perfect combination of say a Rane Empath that can flip to be a midi controller is genius, just haven’t quite found it yet but I’m sure its out of my price range.  Seems like they are trying to put too much into them and pricing themselves out of the different markets.  We need a standard solid stable high quality dj mixer with inputs can be switched to midi and all buttons/knobs mappable thats it.  Skip all the other crap, Serato can work with any mixer we don’t need it hard wired into the mixer.  And why can’t I find a midi controller with the basic crossfader, 2 volume faders, and three knobs above it, mixer style layout, that isn’t some little cheapass plastic junk?

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