The Traktor team at NI has released a handy software tool that allows Serato users to convert their dj collections, including cue points and loops, into the Traktor format. For many djs, switching or even trying out other software has been impossible with so much time invested into cues and loops that would not transfer. I have previously written that the industry should adopt a universal system of storage so that tracks and collections can be freely transfered between users and systems. This type of a standard would stimulate competition between companies and encourage music creators to distribute feature rich tracks. While a universal standard is a long shot- this new program from NI at least solves a very common problem: Serato users that want to try out the Traktor scratch system.

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This simple, but very helpful tool has been a long time coming. We have been talking about making one for years and just never got around to it. Luckily NI took a break from their hard work and built it themselves. Purely utilitarian, this simple software its not going to win any design awards but it does the job. I took a fresh MP3, tagged it in Serato with cue points and wave forms and then converted the file to Traktor’s format. Voila: check out the results bellow:

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Its important to note that this program is just converting serato’s ID3 tags into tags that traktor can read. You will still need to import music and set up playlists seperately unless they were first created in Itunes. My test, which was limited to a few songs, worked perfectly but users moving over full collections may run into some ID3 problems. Curious what the wave forms above mean exactly- read our waveform guide.

Serato Converter Tool

Platforms: Mac and Win

Available : Download from the NI forums

From: Native Instruments Forum

Who: Everyone can download this free software

THE LAST HURDLE

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Serato gained a huge market share early on due to the instability of the Final Scratch System. By the time Traktor Scratch showed up, Serato had a sizable chunk of the industry and most new djs chose Serato for a simple reason: that was what everyone else was using.  These days the performance gap between the two is very close and Traktor Scratch boasts a number of important features that have been enticing some djs to make the switch. The major obstacle to trying out a new system, let alone switching, is the loss of countless hours in cue point and loop preparation. By removing that obstacle,  its now much easier for new djs to try out Traktor’s offerings but we not-so-secretly wish for a unilateral tool that would open up the market even more.

  • http://tos.network.in.rs ToS

    Wicked move. I vote for the unification of DJ_ID3 tags!

  • B33SON

    Still can’t get Traktor Scratch to work well on CDJs, and of course, I’m no computer slacky.

    I think Serato will still have a solid place with DJs that want the access to their full music library and the convenience of a product that just works.

    It’s great that NI is making things like this more convenient. I’m also really satisfied with the reliability of Traktor Pro. I think once the reliability and ease of setup for Traktor Pro Scratch gets fixed, Traktor will come out on top.

  • DJ Phaidon

    An industry standard for all things involved in the manipulation, storage, identification, and displaying of digital music would be a huge leap forward, and really all it would take is compliance with the current Id3 tagging standards, and a simple nod from all of the industry saying they will do it right without proprietary data inserted into the normal fields.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ajorbit AJ ORB/T

    Serato Scratch live and Tracktor Pro Scratch are 2 very good interfaces ! NI is making an awesome choice in improving user efficiency ! LETS GO !!!

  • Jan

    Nice… can we get a link to the converter tool please?

  • dj noname

    serato does have better technical support..
    ni almost always tells you to read the manual rather than help you..
    but for tracks that i can beatgrid i use traktor..
    :>)

  • Jay

    Amazing. Please keep us updated on when it releases. NI’s forum doesnt have info regarding this. DJTT on top of things!

  • Jeff Furnas

    I like how sometimes your images have nothing to do with DJing but are awesomely nerdy and satisfying.

    Two thumbs way up.

  • DJ Quartz

    @ B33SON

    There is a new timecode download in the NI updates and a thread about it on the forum.

    If you were experiencing, tracking and skipping issues, this new timecode download will fix it.

  • http://myspace.com/djjesc JesC

    it would be nice if I can use it the other way around, just in case I need to use Serato at a club that has no room for my vci, just sayin

  • Sarasin

    Aaaannnd the Lego makes a return!

    :)

  • themistoklisv

    [quote comment="25819"]Still can’t get Traktor Scratch to work well on CDJs, and of course, I’m no computer slacky.[/quote]

    Maybe the new version 0.0.2 Timecode CD resolves your issue
    You can get the update from Native

  • Vinicius Hoffmann

    [quote comment="25827"]I like how sometimes your images have nothing to do with DJing but are awesomely nerdy and satisfying.

    Two thumbs way up.[/quote]
    [quote comment="25830"]Aaaannnd the Lego makes a return!

    :)[/quote]

    +1 +1 on those :D

    Ean, who has all these legos? Man, I love your blog pictures!
    And what do you suggest if we are planning to try different softwares before chose one? Keep all our playlists build on iTunes?
    Right now my music collection is not organised nor tagged, I just want to start it the best way so I can try different softwares. Atm I’m using traktor, but later I can try something different.

  • Adam

    That’s great news but as JesC says,

    [quote post="4248"]it would be nice if I can use it the other way around, just in case I need to use Serato at a club that has no room for my vci, just sayin[/quote]

    Does anyone know of a Traktor to Serato converter?

  • Mandingo

    no!

  • Mandingo

    let us know if you do find it.

  • Marvelous Mixin Miguel

    B33SON I got traktor to work with CDJ, Denons, Midi & 1200s. Hit me up on gtalk (Google Talk) and I’ll walk you through it. Make sure your mic works. I don’t want to type everything out. MarvelousMixinMiguel@gmail.com

  • Mandingo

    Tech support for Traktor in the U.S. is pathetic at best. Why even bother having tech support in the U.S. when these cock-suckers will just tell you to read the manual. For Traktor tech support I open SKYPE and call GERMANY. These cats in DUETCH LAND will do there jobs and help out a customers in need.

    TWO THUMPS WAY DOWN IN THE GUTTER FOR TRAKTOR TECH SUPPORT U.S.A!!!

  • Mandingo

    OOOOOPS, THUMBS!!!!

  • http://www.luthierlab.com Mudo

    Cool movement!

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    Hey Folks- just to let you know, I have updated the post with accurate info for the release of this product.

    Platforms: Mac and Win

    Available : Monday January 10 2010

    From: Native Instruments Forum

    Who: Everyone can download this free software

    yes- the legos are back! They are just sooo cool :)

  • http://soundcloud.com/djmrwhiskers Mr. Whiskers

    Ah, now I can finally get my Serato friends to switch over!

    Love the legos of course. Especially the mustache on #11.

  • http://www.disconova.com/utu/ Markku Uttula

    [quote comment="25819"]Still can’t get Traktor Scratch to work well on CDJs, and of course, I’m no computer slacky.

    I think Serato will still have a solid place with DJs that want the access to their full music library and the convenience of a product that just works.[/quote]
    I think that’s a bit unfair… The CDJ-problem only appeared with Traktor v1.2.x (I’m not saying that it’s ok that they haven’t managed to fix it during the last three minor updates, though) – for what it’s worth, Serato has had their share of showstopper bugs during the product’s lifespan.

  • http://www.disconova.com/utu/ Markku Uttula

    Oh yes, and a nice thing you liked my legologo :) I think this is a second time my graphics have been used on DJTT article.

    Ean… perhaps you could invent an article for my latest “too much time in my hands” -picture @ http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=17200&d=1262948090

  • Mandingo

    THUMBS up for this forum, me loves it a lot!!!

  • David James

    Hey, I’m new here and I made an account on the forum because I wanted to download some tsi’s but I never got an activation email, I know I shouldn’t write this here but I can’t post on the forum so idk what else to do. My username is dj711. And I did try making another account because I thought maybe it was my email but my other email didn’t work either.

  • DJReMike

    Theyvshould make one that can covert the torq .tqd files to the traktor format… I’m planning to make the switch from torq w/ Xponent to traktor scratch pro w/vinyl setup

  • nonstatic

    [quote comment="25829"]it would be nice if I can use it the other way around, just in case I need to use Serato at a club that has no room for my vci, just sayin[/quote]

    +1, though if it doesn’t support playlists/collections then i don’t see much advantage if you don’t care about cue points.

  • DJ Quartz
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  • sergio

    hey guys i need some help
    I have a vci-300 i’m a beginner DJ and i got called to play at a club. The club has pioneers mk3, i was wondering is it possible for me to connect my vci-300 with the djm800 like in one of the 4 chanels? Do you know if it works?

  • fg

    Tried it, converted my entire 70GB crates to Traktor Pro : no metadata on WAV files, subcrates seem ok (as TS playlists) but each parent crate has been duplicated. No import date, and a lot of missing info.

    Well NI, I think I’ll continue using Scratch Live…

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    meta data cant be written to wav files so there is no way to convert a wav from serato to traktor.

  • Anonymous

    nice. sup ean!:) can u set TITLE tags for each page/post please? Would really help when adding to faves/etc.

  • vci-300 tsi – robins stil best? djtt coming?

    more or less gave up on serato in favor of traktor so would kinda be nice to do this the other way around also. :) Anything avail yet?

  • Giona

    Is there a way to do the contrary converting Traktor Collection to Serato?

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  • http://www.ATribeCalledWes.com Wes Smith

    Wow, that worked like a charm. Actually UFB, completely blown away that it actually worked. I already use iTunes for my Database (with some other add ons for tag cleansing) so this worked like butter. All I was looking for was the Cue Point conversion. Nice work NI, helped you get another customer…(BTW, I’m not leaving Serato per say, just want to expand options a bit).

  • DJ1855

    This is a great utility, but I just posted a suggestion for a great new topic. An understanding of what Serato and Traktor are actually doing to our tracks/ID3 Tags and how to undo to create a “virgin library” again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DjFedi D.j. Fedi

    is there a way to import your playlist? from serato to traktor??? or do i have to go hours again selecting and listening to tracks

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