• BIIO

    I think being a dj is not only because he has the best and traditional equipments on the market.
    The art of Deejaying is based also in selection and creativity, does’nt matter what you use to make it an art!
    How many good musicians started with cheap guitars or other instruments, and that dint stop or made his life difficulty to be a music star !!!!
    the important is have fun and make others happy with your choice or music.Make things with love have more success than expensive things.
    For Mike!!!
    [quote comment="39733"] So I have nothing but positive things to say about the Spin/Djay software as it was the stepping stone into a hobby and culture that I absolutely love. Anyone wanna buy my old Spin? ;)[/quote]

    I’m interested in buying your SPIN
    if you still have!!!
    contact me neosusa@hotmail.com

    Now,

    It would be great to see the EAN GOLDEN doing a test on this product : spin!
    What do you think EAN ? :)

    Best regards to everybody

  • MikeHawkinya

    I bought the Spin controller in early summer 2010. It helped me understand the fundamentals of the art and provided a simple, user friendly atmosphere to get into the world of DJ-ing. Due to the ease of use and budget price of this product, it gave me the best bang for the buck when starting out.

    Now that I’ve gotten down the basics of mixing/scratching/juggling/tech/timing, attempting to develop my own style and expand on my limited skill set, I recently graduated to a Vestax VCI-300 MKII. I feel right at home with the new controller and am totally enjoying the upgrade as far as features on the controller itself, Itch and build quality of the VCI. So I have nothing but positive things to say about the Spin/Djay software as it was the stepping stone into a hobby and culture that I absolutely love. Anyone wanna buy my old Spin? ;)

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="23421"]“Sounds like some of you guys are spitting the dummy because your “exclusive” gear doesn’t look so exclusive anymore.

    ++++++

    You don’t seem to understand. Let me try and make it simply. If those brides don’t give the real Pros a chance (because she’s trying to save a buck), it won’t mater what kind of gear the pro use. The pro won’t be in business for long, because of all the dj wannabes will do your party for $50. Sure, those $50 dj’s may suck big time, but the bride won’t know that until after the wedding is ruined and the cheap dj has given the rest of us real Pros a bad rep.
    Again, Vestex might of had good intentions, but I can see where this can go badly for them.[/quote]

    Srsly you are just talking out ur ass here. Not even gonna bother explaining, cause quite frankly I recon you lack the IQ to understand.
    Oh, but have a nice day.

  • Simon

    As I type this post I am sitting down for the first time and starting to transfer my 20 year vinyl collection off one of my 1210′s and onto my Mac. Having been spinning vinyl since the late 80′s this is a massive leap for me as I step into the world of controllerism. No longer playing at club’s but dropping beats at the odd party and in my spare time at home, I find this bit of kit right up my alley.

    What I don’t get is the animosity towards this product on this thread. At last we have a reasonably priced controller & sound card that allows the likes of me, now an occasional DJ to access and play tunes that rocked the floor so many years ago.

    I think many of the haters on this thread need to get over themselves, and celebrate the fact that Vestax are opening up DJ’ing to those who maybe could not afford to get into it before.

    It’s not the equipment but what you do with it that counts.

  • Chris

    If I downloaded traktor pro on my mac, would the vestax spin work with it or would I have to download another file?

  • SachaMaurice

    I don’t understand all the childish drama around this thing seperating “real” djs from scenesters who mix at house parties. If I use this Spin controller to mix tracks that I produced from start to finish how does that make me less of a DJ than some douche mixing Lady Gaga on CDJs at a club? It should be about what comes out of the speakers, not what’s controlling the music. Obviously I don’t have 1500 to drop on cdjs and serato so this will have to do for now. What I can’t stand is people thinking they are above anyone else because their parents gave them the extra 300$ to get a VCI and who still end up playing A-trak and Aoki remixes. If your music sucks, then no equipment will make it better and if you are a creative person, you can dj on anything. Im sure Richie Hawtin on a Spin sounds 1000000 times better than top-40s club dj on a 3000$ rig.

  • http://www.djcbz@myspace.com DJCBZ

    Reading some of your posts wow!
    Dudes worried about other people especially younger people being able to fade them with one of these. If you worried you must not be that good to start with. New tools are just that new tools to make your job more easy & creative.
    Real dj’s mix & produce music anyway!
    My 2 cent’s. No one can sound like you unless your easy to duplicate!

  • Royal

    I purchased the Vestax Spin and the scratch pad is playing a strange sound….I am getting a warpy wierd sound and not a true scratch. Can anyone help me?

  • gunmansoul

    Has anyone seen the vestax typhoon controller?
    It’s exactly the same as vestax spin but has a gift wrap paper /ribbon texture & colours, works on pc & mac & is setup for traktor.

    I hope they reconsider the design as the function descriptions are hard to read & leds & indicator lights clash making it look a total mess.

    I don’t know why vestax chose to launch 2 similar products but at least the european markets will finally get some goods.

  • DJ Briss

    I have a question for all person who have a Vestax spin,

    Do You Like It????

    Thanks

    DJ Briss

  • Bud

    [quote post="3206"]I own Vestex and I can see it now. I’ll be a gig doing my thing and I’ll hear a young kid ask his dad “is that the controller you bought me? Yes son, it’s just like the one I bought you”.[/quote]

    Then the dad said; “…and you even DJ better than him son!”

    Because God forbid his ability to mix was equal or better than yours… despite his inferior hardware.

  • Bud

    After reading through more than half of the comments on this blog, I am just curious as to why so many people are getting so upset about this.

    People feel like this is ‘cheapening’ the world of DJ’ing?

    Lets just start off by stating, electronic music, and the process of mixing OTHER PEOPLES music, is only cheapening what people ONCE considered music, years ago. I think if Beethoven saw somebody cranking out music on a computer in a few days, which he may have spent months composing, is that not CHEAPENING? Most of the comments on this blog are highly hypocritical. Making music isn’t about YOU, being a hero. Its about the listener, the consumer. You either are playing to be the best at your craft, and for people to focus on how genius your creativity can be, not how “professional you look or act.” This is just pathetic.

    Personally, I think this controller has benefited me very much. Am I a DJ? No. I’m a ‘musician’ and I play many different types of music and instruments. I like this controller BECAUSE its cheap and simplistic, I don’t need to spend $700-$1200 on equipment because I don’t even plan on DJ’ing. I use it just for my own personal use, in the comfort of my home, for my own listening. I mix different songs and riff’s I have made on my own, and it does everything I need it to, and at a decent price. I’m not trying to “steal” any REAL dj’s glory (sarcasm). I think the only people here that have anything to fear are the people who spent hundreds upon thousands of dollars, building their setup, only to find that they still don’t have a good taste in music. You think people on the radio can hear what equipment you’re playing on? They hear the right music, at the right time, its about taste and style, not fancy equipment.

    Over all this controller does EXACTLY what its suppose to, and is a very reasonable price. Its nice for people who aren’t sure if mixing songs will be of that great of interest to them, instead of dropping $600 and finding out later its not what you wanted. Everyone has a starting point. The EQ faders are a bit hard to adapt to vs. turn nobs, but you will get use to them. The volume sliders seem to slide a bit too quickly, but other than that there are very few problems with the unit. Its light weight and portable, and virtually no setup. The Djay software is clean and does its job, but is very core and doesn’t provide a large variety of tools and the ability to ONLY pull songs from your itunes library feels limiting. But for those who desire simplicity and ease then Djay is definately for you.

    And nobody’s cheapening the DJ scene, all fads, just like all, fade very quickly. And soon, those so called “wannabe’s” will want nothing to do with DJ’ing, and they will move on to the next fad. Then you, will just be a memory of the past, as the world progress’s to new fads, and you will then wonder “why doesn’t anybody care about DJ’ing anymore?” and you will wish people still carried the same interest they did now. The fact is, you will never be happy, its all about you, and being a unique snowflake. Everyone copies somebody, its human nature, either make a constructive post or go back to refreshing your Facebook page every 10 seconds.

  • Narbmeister

    I think that this is a fantastic little product that doesn’t have any bearings on anyones career as a DJ. I started on 2 gemini turntables and a low end mixer and used to rock loads of parties with them. If anything playing on budget equipment meant i had to be way more creative and helped me to to be a lot better than the people using 1210′s and the like as they relied so much on spinning the middle of the plated they were no good at getting the pitch right in the first place and were constantly tweaking thereafter. Also it meant I had to be super careful when tweaking so I never knocked or touched anything to mess the music up as the gemini’s had no torque and weren’t too stable. I think this will raise the game as people have stated, just because you spend loads of money on fast car doesn’t make you a racing driver, spending money on a full art set does kind of make you an artist but not a grand master in the art-forms true sense of the word?
    I think the spin looks great, obviously handles well from some of the comments on the thread, plus the software will never compete with the tricks available on Traktor/ Serato and therefore will get a lot more people interested which at the end of the day is all people who love the music want. If there was just a handful of DJ’s in the world where would all the new ideas and creativity come from? Would we be sat conversing on this thread if only Turntable DJ’s had carried on and and even take that back a step further if no one had ever beat matched 2 tracks for fear of p*ssing off the person who made the music or bringing DJing to wider market? I think that the majority of the people here will agree this is what we love and cherrish about the music, just because a few more people will be having a go and possibly not like it as much as they thought and there will be a load of dusty “Spins” sat on a shelf somewhere doesn’t worry me.

  • MehdiVancouver

    I actually first ordered the Spin on Apple. (with the 3 months wait) and then trying to inform myself about it and Djing, got to see DJTT and Ean performing on the VCI 100.

    Now, I have cancelled my SPIN and ordered the Arcade SE.

    So yes! Thank you Vestax for awakening me in the first place to my long time passion – Music – and making me see that Djing could be approachable, affordable and fun!

    Don’t be haters men.

  • matt

    will the djay software (whatever the spin uses) work with rewire? Will i be able to sync my itunes stuff to ableton’s master clock?

  • Kellyico

    DJ is no-longer a Title, if every consumer can be one.

    Well, whatever man, it’s good and bad for the DJ scene, I like being unoriginal part of a cliche you know, DJ-n is an art, and I like the fact that is is not readily available in the consumer market! Now it’s going to be so easy to be a DJ, that is the cool part.

    The bad part being a DJ is not so unique anymore, every kid in town will be able to spin… And what is sad, We will be associated with video games and immature kids. It will be hard to explain to my wife that I working! When the kids are playing on what appears to be the the same gear…

    I had a long road learning how to DJ, now you’ll be able to walk into Target and walk out a DJ “Bummer”

  • coolout

    Here’s official word from Vestax about PC compatibility with Spin:

    ——
    Can I use SPIN with Windows?

    A. SPIN is designed for Macintosh systems but can be used with Windows systems by using the MIDI mapping feature of ASIO4ALL and other DJ/DAW applications. Please note that Vestax does not support SPIN with Windows systems.
    ——–
    In other words, it works!!!!

    They don’t have custom midi maps for any windows apps, but it’s class-compliant midi. Nor do they do they have custom ASIO drivers for windows, so you have to use generic ASIO4ALL.

    The VCM-100 used Maya hardware for the sound card so I’m sure someone will figure out a custom driver that works with Spin and user created maps for traktor, VDJ, etc. will surface.

    SPIN is the best deal going on a DJ controller right now.

    Looks like I’m getting myself one for Christmas now.

  • bigbarcelona23

    [quote comment="24366"][quote comment="24365"][quote comment="23411"][quote comment="23370"]Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?[/quote]

    If you read through the article, you’ll see that it is designed to run with DJay software, exclusive to Mac. But as a midi controller, you should be able to use it with midi software running on Windows.[/quote]

    What midi softwares would be compatible with this machine? I want to get it for Christmas… but I have a Windows computer. Please help me out with this!! I love the design and the way that it performs. I’ve seeing the Numark stealth and to be honest… don’t like much about it.

    Please help me out with this because I really want to get it.[/quote]

    Could I use traktor or Serato in order to replace the Djay software?

  • bigbarcelona23

    [quote comment="24365"][quote comment="23411"][quote comment="23370"]Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?[/quote]

    If you read through the article, you’ll see that it is designed to run with DJay software, exclusive to Mac. But as a midi controller, you should be able to use it with midi software running on Windows.[/quote]

    What midi softwares would be compatible with this machine? I want to get it for Christmas… but I have a Windows computer. Please help me out with this!! I love the design and the way that it performs. I’ve seeing the Numark stealth and to be honest… don’t like much about it.

    Please help me out with this because I really want to get it.

  • bigbarcelona23

    [quote comment="23411"][quote comment="23370"]Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?[/quote]

    If you read through the article, you’ll see that it is designed to run with DJay software, exclusive to Mac. But as a midi controller, you should be able to use it with midi software running on Windows.[/quote]

    What midi softwares would be compatible with this machine. I want to get it for Christmas… but I have a Windows computer. Please help me out with this!!

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="23370"]Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?[/quote]

    NO! GET THAT PC JUNK OUTTA HERE..

  • atticus18244fsas

    Like to see the number of egotistical assholes posting here. This is aimed at the beginner. No beginner wants to go spend $500 on something that they might not stick with. They wanna spend $250 and try it out and move up from there. Christ…

  • Vince

    this will work for pc for sure right? cause i dun wanna use DJAY … anyone try it on pc yet?

  • coolout

    So what happens when you plug the vestax spin into a windows PC?

    Will somebody try that out?

    Even if it’s only recognized as a midi device that’s almost worth $250 considering that lack of low-end controllers that you can actually scratch with.

  • Brian

    If the VCI controllers only cost $100, would you people be whining like crazy about how much they suck and how they are letting everyone get a piece of the action?

    No, you would be buying a second one.

    As someone who make music on his laptop, I got a lot of hate from people who had to spends thousands of dollars on hardware to make the same music. I used to use hardware myself, but I got tired of carrying it around from place to place so I sold most of it.

  • z

    new video of the spin in action:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je94NuZrroM&feature=player_embedded

    i tried to check it out at two apple stores in nyc, but neither had it set up…

  • GV

    Are “Speed” faders 14-bit?

  • David

    I don’t know why everybody is fighting so much but I got my hands on this controller yesterday only played it for about 6 hours and I can honestly say it made me forget my M-Audio Torq Xponent existed with that said the software is kinda simple but its awesome for little gigs or house parties I’m sure someone will come out with the traktor files, I cant wait. This controller is extremely fun and the size makes it very easy to travel.

  • Dj Joker

    Is the vestax spin only for MAC? If so are they planing on doing something for PC users. I just saw the video demo and Im really feeling this controller but im a PC user.

  • Bornis

    Hey, I’m getting this when im heading to US! My first midicontroller.
    Anyways, I’ll hope there will come a good videoreview, or fully tested version, with other programs, like traktor and so on. Hmm, this seems great :) I’ll go for it, after then I know IF I want to start to be a “dj”

  • ilufgw

    they’re also going to start having dj classes in the apple stores.

  • djpinecone

    I like this just because I will be able to keep a thumb drive in my pocket and possibly just use the “masses” equipment if i randomly show at a party and show them what is up, learn to be a badass on equipment that everyone else cant use as well as a real dj. btw i can scratch… with real records. plus, the more companies that pursue this industry, the better the equipment gets. i cant wait till we have modular usb controlers so if you want 4 faders, you just snap em in.

  • http://www.christelflms.blogspot.com captinfranko

    When oh when will this be available in the UK i have to have this!!

  • Prime

    Can anyone comment on the quality of the audio (does it at least sound as good as a $99 interface or a cheap dj mixer?)

    Is the headphone pre-amp OK?

    I find it insane that Apple does not display or have one of these out for demo in their stores!!!

    I understand that the quality is not quit a VCI-100 but is it atleast as good as an m-audio or numark type contoller?

    Any replies are appreciated unless you want to talk about how one cheap controller is going to end the careers of all DJ’s =)

    -prime

  • http://mojohito.com Mojohito

    @dj blaze
    I picked it up on Sunday, wrote quite a bit up above. Take a look.

    And @Anonymous
    [quote comment="23629"]…this is strictly for bedroom deejays.[/quote]
    I’m already using it in a professional radio environment – it offers much more control than the studio equipment, but not overloaded with features only useful to people doing live breakbeats, etc. Although this gadget is inexpensive, it’s not realistic to call it a toy only suitable for kids. It handles like the ‘real thing’.

  • http://www.johndow.de john dow

    He dudes,

    Nobody complained about the cheap hercules stuff available at every radio/tv store.
    Entry level. What about djhero, should we al be scared for that as well???

    It’s not the kitchen, it’s the cook that makes it tasty.

    John

  • dj blaze

    you know what the 300′s aent to far from this ,its plastic too so what the fuss?

  • dj blaze

    huumm does anyone on this topic have this yet? looks cool, im going to test out at the apple store

  • boomBot

    There’s nothing wrong with building cheap entry-level controllers guys. I got myself Behringer BCD3000 2 years ago just to see whether DJ-ing is gonna stick with me and my buddy has it now after it went to Burning Man with me twice and I got a pair of Denon CDJs and Pioneer mixer. So I really have to thank Behringer for helping me get into DJ-ing even though my BCD3000 felt so uncomfortable that even Playa dust didn’t make it much worse.

  • Anonymous

    This is a great product for kids, i’m 31… imagine if i had this when i was younger. i’m not gonna be overly worried bout anyone takin my job if they buy one of these, this is strictly for bedroom deejays.

  • http://www.louddjs.com Dj Lucid

    This, DJ Hero? Touch DJ on the iPhone? I think everyone will be a dj soon enough, we’ve already had a massive over-saturation in the past three years… Just means us professionals will need to step up the game, and innovate beyond the traditional ways of dj-ing.

  • http://soundcloud.com/groups/fleater fleater

    [quote comment="23476"]does anybody else find it humorous that the tempo faders just say ‘speed’ and that the cue buttons just have a picture of headphones on them?[/quote]

    I thought exactly the same! I can’t wait until I get one of these geeks asking for a go on my set up…… It will be like when my mate comes round and has a go on my Technics…. Priceless!

    I love to mix its a bonus if others like it…….. Luckily I don’t rely on DJ-ing for an income, just a welcome retreat from my missus, X-Factor and the likes of Big Brother! Again priceless!

    If this entry level device brings as much joy to others as my beginning set of cheap belt drive decks and crackly mixer then bring it on! A DJ revolution!

    Maybe it could take the place of anti-depressants in modern society, (and get me out of being asked to DJ at kids parties, weddings and 60th birthdays).

  • Matt Gnarly

    I think some of you guys are being ridiculous, it’s like a bunch of American Fender Stratocaster owners getting angry about the existence of Squier Strats, get over yourselves. I’m personally interested in it, the price seems fair and it looks like a good introduction to to digital djing, I can’t justify $1000 for a VCI-300 but I can certainly spend $250 on this.

  • z

    i’ve been reading this website for awhile now, thinking of when i could get a controller, but having never found one that’s affordable for me. i think this one might be it, and would be a good start.

    any word on pc compatibility? for the controller, not the software.

  • Tomii

    Uhhhh beat matching is a thing of the past people!!! it what u do from here on out that counts

  • http://ifnotwhynot.me DJSDive

    Actually DJay 3.0 is quite an impressive leap. Their algorithms are not too shabby. IIRC Scratchworks was quite fond of their key lock algo for example. Also the above feature list is missing their internal Sampler. You can either record from one of the decks, the mic or load of an existing file. They also have multiple soundcard support, especially for beginners its nice because they even support USB headsets for cueing while using the standard soundcard for the main output.

    However in general they try to hide “complexity” .. so no waveforms, actual BPM values, ways to adjust the beat grid or anything like that. Furthermore you can only have one of their panels open at one time, which makes it a bit tedious to do some fancy stuff that actually uses all the power that Djay has to offer in rapid progression.

  • http://mojohito.com Mojohito

    Very interesting polarized thread here. Based on some (not all) of these comments, one might think controllerism is a synonym for elitism, which is a funny thing because controllerism is struggling to not appear to be trying to play grown-up with the turntablists. It’s like the mid-sized kid picking on the little kids for making up for getting picked on by the big kids. Anyway.

    I’m a radio DJ (Remember those? Radio is where it all started!) who programs exclusively with the computer (CDs are so old-school). I’d been struggling to playlist on my Mac then get those tunes over to the Windows box in the radio studio which has minimal DJ software. Djay 3 came out and it was just what I was looking for – a lot more control than iTunes, and avoiding Windoze alltogether. Hey, it even looks nice and creates the space for some creative mixing!

    I wanted a simple controller and there was no way I would spend $500 on a VCI-100 or lug around a 10 lb. piece of gear – it looked fun, but just impractical for my needs as a professional DJ with a regular gig. This thing comes out & it’s perfect! Low price point, small and light, from a reputable company, and out-of-the-box compatible with the software I’m already using. So I bought one at an Apple store on Sunday – the day it was released.

    So, handling this thing is a dream: I can sit on the floor and rest it in my lap, DJ casually for friends, pass it around and everyone can basically figure it out. It really opens the doors to make this casual, fun, and ubiquitous. Getting it to sound good requires skill at selecting tunes and mixing them – same as DJing ever was. This doesn’t change the game for pros – just make it more fun. Calling it a toy like it’s just for kids isn’t really accurate. It’s not built like pro-level gear which is designed to withstand heavy use, but it’s still really nice for what it does.

    It’s designed for Mac. If you’re not familiar with Apple, one could characterize their work by stating that it’s refined to the point of being simple, elegant, beautiful, integrated, and really works well. And that’s how I would describe Djay and the Spin – it doesn’t have every feature in the book (and maybe misses some that pros may find important) – but it’s straightforward, great to handle and use, and it does the job it claims to do very well.

    And suggesting that DJ Hero has anything to do with controllerism is silly. It’s a video game, based on button mashing and staring at a cartoon on a screen. Like Guitar Hero which didn’t teach anyone to play a guitar, the people who waste time developing skill at the game at the end of the day won’t have any experience as a DJ.

  • matthew

    I think this is a hella good product. For those of you that think its rubbish, think of the market it will open for your shows? If someone wants to know how to really run a show… then they go see one, which could be you? And if you are worried about this DJ hero thing producing competition, haha, well look at the wonderful musicians Guitar hero has produced. Personally i have just been looking to buy a controller for house parties. This is the ticket.

  • chris

    the response time on this thing looks great!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6c-BHWM0cI
    I’ll get my son one for xmass and one for myself ;)

  • Ant

    Just so my opinion is logged in this VERY interesting thread:
    I think this product is a damned good thing.

    Through its use and popularity, people will see how fun it is to DJ. At the same time they’ll be seeing just how god damned hard it is to be a good DJ. As a result there will be a more popular awareness and interest in the actual craft of DJing.

  • http://www.myspace.com/1000cutts 1000Cutts

    I cannot believe some of the people on this thread- this is a cheap entry level piece of DJ hardware and software, that may, just may get a whole load of youngsters into DJ’ing and controllerism…that is a good thing!!! I started DJ’ing with two belt driven citronics with inch long pitch controls wired together so needed two people to carry them….A DJ with Technics 1210′s could have said “oh they are cack” they were but they got me into DJ’ing and made a success of it….to you naysayers I say nay (Role Models movie)

  • whocares?

    Oh for the simple pleasure of playing (and listening to) music.
    Gotta keep party people moving, that is what a dj does, that is it!
    Those drunk folks pay our bills.

    If you choose to use technics, vestax or fisher price, who cares?
    All the negative comments here are made by snobs.
    music is for everyone to enjoy, if you don’t like what the dj is playing, go somewhere else.

    If you want to take this to another level, Why not go and make some music instead?
    All a dj does is play other peoples music.
    You can dress it up, bells and whistles, but that is it.
    If you have passion, then it will come through no matter what.
    That is what an artist does.
    If you want to be original, stop bitchin’ start experimenting.
    Who cares about what tools other people are using?
    The reaction to this new toy is EGO based.

    We have drum machines, and we still have amazing drummers!
    We have playlists, and we still have some amazing djs!

    I am going to buy one of these for my 70 year old mum!

  • DJ Munter

    ha, stolen product name..(there is a midi / timecode system already named spin)

  • VeinMelter

    If all the new kid kicked me out of this job, at least I still got all of my music to enjoy, and die with it.

  • poor college student

    i will be picking this up because i cannot afford a mixer and two cdj’s, i like what people are saying but coming from someone who loves mixing but cant do it in my own bedroom, this is what some of us need

  • http://turntablepoetry.com dj professor ben

    I can’t believe people hating on this like drummers circa 1980 on the drum machine. Don’t be threatened. I think this is awesome.

    I’ve actually spent time playing with the djay software and it is no slouch. It is very basic to be sure, and it has that MacOS user-friendliness. When they had a 50% off sale on the software last week I did an impulse buy – I thought, sure, I own Traktor, but this is perfect for a low-key party situation where you just want to mix some tunes. It’s got (basic) effects, a pretty decent auto-sync, MIDI, (limited) cue points, and other basic features of DJ software. It was only $25 and it integrates perfectly with iTunes library. It was completely intuitive – I was up and running with it in seconds. It won’t replace Traktor or Serato for anyone playing a club, but it will bring creatively (and not-so-creatively) mixed music to a lot of new places. Anyone who thinks that’s a bad thing should ask themselves why they’re doing it in the first place.

  • http://www.djlantau.com Lantau

    Whoa this thread is hater-tastic…

    More products = more competition = more satisfaction (for me anyways)

  • DJ Phaidon

    Ohh, and on apples site it comes with a MIC. Hope feedback is in the instruction manual :-)

  • z
  • tim

    i want those jog wheels for my vci-100 arcade

  • Anonymous

    Ean can u score some o them plates for the Tech Tools shop?

  • minimal

    I’m old enough to remember when MS Word came out and every secretary became a Graphic Designer on fridays! So now everyone has access to cracked versions of illustrator but only a handful -the ones who care- are any good at it.

    Anyways, now we’re quite used to those so-called “graphic design” jobs & all it has done is raise the awareness to good graphic design peroid.

    Work at it and trust the people to able to make the difference between a passionate DJ and a joke. And if they can’t, do you really want to play there?

    Practice and N-joy right?

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="23523"]
    The difference is that the paint and brushes couln’t paint the picture by themselves. ;)

    This thing can match beats and mix for you.[/quote]

    It’s not the controller that will beatmix it’s the software. You can map those buttons to do whatever you want in other software.

    Traktor does the same thing, the vci100 will do the same thing, and frankly almost all dvs systems will beat match, then you just have the ride the pitch to keep it in time.

    Everyone needs to chill on hating this controller or it’s mainstream release. If I had a kid, this thing would be an awesome gift.

  • spazticmidget

    if we can get those jog wheel plates leds would look sicccc through those.

  • tomii

    Someone is always out to take your spot. If your freekin out…..well then u might as well give your spot away. GET BETTER at what you do. Never stop learning! If this is what you love then you should be happy people keep coming up with all new stuff. The after math of this hype will be a 10,000,000 people who tried and 4 who made it. Feed of the good energy and learn from other people.

  • http://doctor-d.de Tourette

    Don´t think the beatgrid is as perfect.It´s just like watching Bob Ross.Painting stuff with household brushes.Weird guy.Compared to MSTRKRFTs moustache he´s got the real hair!

  • Two turntables and a mic

    [quote]At one point in time painting materials became accessible to everyone, I can’t imagine how many artisan’s were shaken and disturbed with the possibility of competing with the working class.[/quote]

    The difference is that the paint and brushes couln’t paint the picture by themselves. ;)

    This thing can match beats and mix for you.

  • http://doctor-d.de Tourette

    Nice turntable animation.When the record is thrown on the platter.Funny conversation.A friend of mine gave me a Frank Zappa bootleg as a gift today, Igor´s transylvanian ballet music.
    After listening to this, who cares about spin?lol

  • ss714ss

    notice the program does not show waves how bout that.. isn’t that more original to the craft…. now seeing it in action kinda makes me think this would be a dope lil set up.. but of course after I get a mac lol..

  • DJ Phaidon

    I’m not at all surprised at the overreaction that this has caused. I am glad Vestax did this. For one, all the punters who think they have become superstar DJ’s because they mastered hard mode on DJ hero or own one of these, good on you. Number two, Like the rep said himself, you get what you pay for. I’ve never seen any professional musician playing a $200 walmart guitar unless it was to illustrate the horrible qualities that they have, and are using that as the art, not as a pure act of musicianship, similar to these things. The DJTT community will no doubt find some good applications for this, and it will assist those that want to discover DJ’ing on a small budget, but it is just a way for Vestax and apple to profit from curiosity and a market that hadn’t been fully exploited yet.

  • R0bust

    Yay for fake scratching that come’s included to the 250$ instant “djs” that are going to buy this =)

    I swear if this thing get’s in the way like “sorry bro, I’m going to dj my own house party with my surround sound,macbook and the spin controller” I’ll literally knock someone out -_-

  • LiveFast, Stephen

    F0tif0, It looks like he’s holding shift to enable that, maybe Vestaxs’ way to spare the crossfader from kids trashin it learning to scratch

  • f0tif0

    whats up with that crosfader moving without touching.

  • Jan

    As a futile attempt to bring the discussion back to the product, here is a video of the Spin controller in action:

  • Anonymous

    Thank God, there won’t be anyone crazy to become a DJ in future.

    BUT WE STILL CAN PRODUCE: Start creating your own music and reduce using others produce in your mixes

    Imagine this: A controller like this in Walmart for 49$ in a year… remember the Chinese are watching… these controllers are too low on technology to clone

    Software had advanced so much… so no doubt AUTOMIX will replace very soon the regular DJ… START PRODUCING and MIX your produce…

  • http://www.holotropik.com holotropik

    Its no different than a $250 guitar…

    Get over it….

  • djjc

    Bizarre that this controller is upsetting people so much. And “Pissed Off”…. I have never read so much drivel in all my life. If you are good at what you do, you will get work. Clearly, if crappy DJ’s are getting gigs you want, maybe you’re just not good enough.

  • Anonymous

    [quote post="3206"]that would also mean a whole bunch of wannabe dj’s flooding the market, and potentially stealing jobs from pros that do this “easy” dj thing for a living.[/quote]

    Lol – I don’t even know where to start on that.

  • doctorBOOM

    So I’m just saying: Overreaction not required.

    Here are some more thoughts.
    -Apple has a 10% market share. how big d’ya think this thing is gonna be?
    -If you have a Mac, try out Djay (I can tell some here have). It’s a nice little program.
    -Hint: You don’t need to use the sync or automix, if you don’t want to. I for one don’t.
    -Wanna feel better about the Spin? have a look at the ION Discover. (even then, who cares. Just tools, thats all)

    What counts is: The Music and the Atmosphere. That’s all that matters.

  • Xskid

    Anyone want to try convincing the people at apple to take off the jog wheels and try it on our vci’s or is it just me?!?! lol I’m going to check it out right after school on monday =)

  • doctorBOOM

    Player Piano.

    By the same logic of at least half the posters here, the art or piano playing should have died circa 1900.

    I’m a graphic designer. Photoshop Elements came with $200 cameras almost a decade ago. Same with half-decent page layout progams and entry level computers. And I was not ONE BIT WORRIED.
    [quote post="3206"]that would also mean a whole bunch of wannabe dj’s flooding the market, and potentially stealing jobs from pros that do this “easy” dj thing for a living.[/quote]…that is the saddest comment on here. Complete lack of self respect. And I’m not just busting balls here, I’m genuinely upset by such a comment. If one has real confidence in what they do, as a pro, they would never say such a thing.
    I’m sorry, but I feel in artistic professions, if/when you feel threatened and insecure, it’s time to quit.

    Otherwise, stop worrying, show some pride, and believe in your craft.

  • ss714ss

    damn lots of u foos are bitchin so much … relax… I wanna test this sucker out if this thing sounds good… that’s really all u need to start doing gigs.. and if a kid comes through with this.. and does the damn thing.. shit more props to him.. I be showing love.. not bitching cuz of what he uses… remember it’s only a tool… just cuz u guys buy 1000 dollar pioneers don’t mean ur the shit.. just means u like spending haha.. shit i seen foos make people dance and have a good time using the keyboard and virtual dj.. and that my friends is fukken impressive… so stop the hating and start practicing…

  • ss714ss

    hmmmm 250… not bad… plus a soundcard… and midi mapable on traktor… man or just the program it comes with.. your gonna start seeing lots a kids and young peers get into this… vestax is gonna bank of this…

  • mike_o

    I would have never imagined something like this would generate so much hate from within so to speak, I get the impression a lot of people posting here are not about the art of music mixing & production, but rather seem to be obsessed with this whole “inside the boys club” mentality so to speak, like “It’s mine, I was doing it first, the more people who do it the less cool and special I feel”.

    this type of attitude is sad as hell and can go the way of the dodo bird, seriously.

    there are still $150 guitar amp combo packs at guitar center, and then there are some really nice guitars up on the wall as well, you get what your ready for.

    its not like the better quality built VCI 100/300 are suddenly gone or anything.

  • seeMARTINbreak

    eab is right
    people shouldnt be debating about the dj image on here
    what i wrote earlier wasnt because i hated this product or liked it. its because i began to read on and people would post redundant questions that were aleady answered in the features and facts about the spin… read first please! that just gets on my nerves (i guess its a pet peeve)
    ANYWAYS this product isnt good or bad. it just makes the art more noticable to the more general public. theres nothing wrong with that. it obviously wont compete with the high quality built controllers and their massive sound cards, but it might be the first step for a one day amazing dj who any of us can admire.

    i have my set up already and this def wont join… CANT WAIT FOR THE MIDIFIGHTER THOUGH!!!

  • Xskid

    I love how it say’s “for the people” at the top left of the controller lool!!!….and not “for the djs”. Why couldn’t they have wrote something else other than people cause now I think it’s more for the kids and wannabe djs even more!

    Also do you think the VCI 100 is plug and play in the djay 3 software because I’m going to head to the apple store next week and compare the 2 myself! lo1. And I feel like stealing those jogwheels soooo bad haha.

  • Kool Moe Dee

    Ion iCUE
    Behringer BCD3000
    Numark Total Control
    Hercules Steel
    Numark Stealth
    Reloop Digital Jockey

    All cheap controllers that do the same and have been around for a while.

    It’s cos it looks like your precious vci that you’re upset..

    If, as Pissed Off and a few others are saying, people get one of these and then go on to do awful gigs – they ain’t gonna get many more are they now?

    However if this gives someone with real talent their break then it can only be a good thing.

    Im gonna get my son one.. Good move Vestax

  • jordan

    goodness! calm down people!
    this looks like a fun little toy for kids trying out mixing and stuff, I would not expect anyone to use it for professional mixing. if you showed up at a party where you expected to get paid with this, you would be laughed out.
    when I was younger and just starting out djing, I had something like this, which I loved to play with. anyone should be creative and buy something like this if they want to just play with it.

  • http://doctor-d.de Tourette

    A 10 year old son of a friend of mine saw me playing at a party and said “I want turnrables”, he has got a super ear for music and harmony.That´s great, if he´s starting to mix and try things out…
    I think this is some kind of tool as a party toy to try to mix some tunes and have fun, dancing, drunk people and so on..Don´t think it´s a real alternitive to “pro” stuff neither the sixth sense of mixing, building a set, collecting records or tunes and all this weird DJ stuff we´re practising.Hope we´re all doing this?Hmmm.
    Gadget is the right term.A gadget to feel more professional.Anyhow, I was playing and a bloke asked me about my Faderfox.20Euro?No, 250 Euro.What, you ain´t got jogwheels, you could have bought a pacemaker…
    Don´t take this serious.A trainwreck is easily made even with automix.I don´t give a s$%t about this thing.But maybe one guy or girl will get this gadget and will play like god.Maybe I will dance and have the night of my live.Who knows?Me likes it.

  • Andrew

    THIS IS A DEBACLE TO DIGITAL DJ’ing!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.dj-nvidia.com/ Dj Nvidia

    This is a huge leap for the industry. More people will start to respect Djs for the artform it is, and really begin to understand the hard work that goes into it.

    Also, I think bringing more people into the craft will only help it to become more creative and innovative overall (like the old saying “two heads are better than one”).

    I am really excited about this product, if I wasn’t already madly in-love with my Arcade Modded VCI-100, (and wasn’t a poor student), I would definitely pick this up…

    I wish they had this product two years ago… Djay was my first true Dj software… would have been great to have a controller/soundcard to go with it…

  • http://www.djtechtools.com markkus

    Definitely not a professional tool, nor a toy for professional tools to be scared of.

    This may be mostly for kids, but if so, then I sure enough wish it were around when I was a kid. Old salty dogs are probably just jealous because kids today are spoiled with so much access to cheaper and cooler technology.

    But it’s not only for kids. It’s for anyone who wants to try out digital DJing. Whether their intent is to become a skilled pro or to simply interact with their iTunes Library in a new and fun way doesn’t really matter. DJing is fun. There are professional athletes, musicians, chefs, etc. — all occupations that millions of people do simply for fun.

    If there someday are millions of casual, non-pro DJs, it won’t kill off the industry. It may require that the pros truly deserve it however, and force people to see that receiving money to DJ is a privilege, not a right.

  • Sporeprint

    People are always scared of new technology. when cheaper digital drum machines came out, People were scared. When you could easily make music on your computer, same thing. When you could dj from your computer, same thing. It takes what you use to have to spend a whole lot and now its in the hands of the average man. Let these kids have there fun. I only like technics 1200 but to each there own. An experienced dj could rock this cheap plastic toy like you wouldnt believe. It doesnt matter what it is, Its all in how you use it. and thats the truth.

  • http://www.brentishouse.com Maestro B

    [quote comment="23427"][quote comment="23425"]The Djay software has no waveforms. It would be hard to use in a club.[/quote]
    turntables have no waveforms so they will be hard to use in a club :)[/quote]

    Well, that’s not entirely true. Vinyl does have a waveform when you look closely at the record.

  • movement23

    Everyone is talking about how this will “cheapen” DJing… what about Traktor with its push button Djing with track sync and its different features to make Djing easier. this just seems to be going along with the trend.

  • tenotch

    It looks like a good xmas gift to my 12 year nephew

  • Roberto

    “I can see it now, before a person hires a dj they will ask for their DJ Hero score to see how good they are.”

    This is definitely the one of the funniest comments here.

    Great to read many responses and points about a simple controller that resembles Vestax’s iconic VCI. It seems like one of those situations that forces you to hone your craft and take it to the next level in order to set yourself apart from those who just purchased a brand new “toy.” Is that such a terrible thing?
    Should Vestax be rebuked for being in the business of making money, especially at a time juncture when so many similar products and popular games/apps are being put out to market?
    As far as hurting the DJ profession: many of us who gig professionally for money probably have had the experience of convincing a client why you charge a certain price compared to others with similar equipment, experience, or what not. And it will continue to be this way for some of us more than others, regardless of new technology; such is the meaning of competition.
    Seriously, if someone who just purchased this gadget and wanted to DJ his/her own party instead of hiring me or another experienced DJ to do it, so be it. If they loved it and wanted to spend the rest of their life doing it, in an eternal hunger for music, mixing at home pissing off your significant other because she can’t sleep with the music at 4am during the weeknight, spending $$ upgrading gear, hearing a new song that you need NOW, and the other curses that come with being bit by a vampire, kudos. And if they want to undercut every working DJs prices to get gigs, kudos.
    Sorry, but that’s life in about every job field. DJing is no longer exclusive to people with an extra 2K sitting in their account. It does not require a college degree, a state exam, a professional license, joining a union, etc.,. It is not the profession that garners serious public respect (with exceptions to successful music artists and lifers within the community), especially when anyone has the means to do it and see it only as means of glorified glamor partying.
    I love DJing, but it is not my cash cow. I do agree that anytime someone labels themselves a DJ and acts out unprofessionally with extremely low-ball pricing, horrible mixing techniques, poor gig etiquette, it can create a negative outlook on it as a profession and hurt your chances of making money. But you can only be yourself, up the ante, market yourself better, use references whatever it takes if your lively hood really depends on that gig.
    At one point in time painting materials became accessible to everyone, I can’t imagine how many artisan’s were shaken and disturbed with the possibility of competing with the working class. Don’t turn the introduction of a mass produced mass marketed entry level controller into a supportive argument for DJ elitism end exclusivity. Any additional blatant comments towards Ean are also unwarranted.

  • kilbot

    does anybody else find it humorous that the tempo faders just say ‘speed’ and that the cue buttons just have a picture of headphones on them?

  • David Kelso

    Who cares what everyone else thinks of your so called “profession” or if they think dj’ing is cool or they think they’re better than you. I’m going to continue to play the music that I love, because I love it. It makes me Happy, and if it makes other people happy as well then that’s even better.

  • Bros

    Ha I bet the popular tracks that will be playing out of this are Daft Punk songs, which were probably only recently discovered by the people (who will own one of these) back when Kanye West’s song came out, thinking it was a “remix” of Kanye’s anyways.

    But whatever, change has to happen I guess. I kinda got tired of walking into a house party and seeing DJ BroJockPartyAnimalBeerPounder either using iTunes or even “stepping it up” to an iPod iDJ.

  • Abyrne7

    Haha i wanna rob those jog wheel plates for my vci 100

  • Two turntables and a mic

    I’ve been reading some of responses for and agaisnt this product, and I can agree with both sides. As for what Ean posted:

    [quote]this product is not a big money maker at all. To make a product at this price point means very little margin. This product was made by Vestax because its a big deal to have a controller in apple stores- it helps expose the general public to our work.[/quote]

    Is this controller going to be made in China? If yes there will probably be a huge markup when it comes to cost of making it vs it’s sale price. To suggest otherwise is misleading imo.

  • Starpoint

    [quote comment="23436"]I remember the happiest days of my Dj life in 1992 when I got hold of a pair of belt drive citronic sm150s and an entry level numark and taught myself to play. Didn’t have a hope of affording 1210s. Having to work so hard on the basic kit to sound good enough to play out (and there was a lot more competition in those days believe me – every house party would have at least 8 – 10 pretty decent Djs just itching to play) taught me that it is never about what you use, it’s how you use it. Healthy competition makes us all sharpen our game. The more the merrier as far as I’m concerned. Let’s not discriminate against people who use different

    and/or different kit to us – if they share our passion then that is all that is required.

    Full marks to Vestax for bringing what we do to a new audience. Not only will more people recognise how much real skill is required to properly rock, we have a better chance of seeing the next Sasha/Grooverider/Giles Peterson/Andrew Weatherall/insert name of genre-defining DJ here in our lifetime.

    Onwards the revolution![/quote]

    Hehehe you sound exactly like me – around the same time of the 90′s I was scouring pawn shops and flea markets for old turntables that had “convertible quality” to them – meaning that they had potential for me to mod them so they’d be more DJ friendly. Like you, it was all I could afford a the time. But it worked!

    These are the first 2 turntables I owned and modded:

    http://www.radiotvmuseum.hu/radioanno/images/keszulek/lemezj/pioneer_pl200.jpg

    http://www.zenn.com.sg/Kenwood_KD-3070_TT.JPG

    neither had great torque but I sanded the platters and buffed them so they’d get the best slipmat performance. Installed start / stop buttons as well & removed the auto-return mechanics so they were as manual as possible. Man I can’t believe I went through all that, but they were the happiest days of my life as well!!

    I’m retired now after 13 years of DJing and this MIDI controller would be perfect for me – I’ve digitalized my entire vinyl collection so to have a unit like this to “get back to it” every once in awhile would be stellar.

  • Wicky Wicky

    I agree with Pissed Off and the other “haters” that have chimed in. Vestex is just making it easier for any joe blow to try their hand at dj’ing and eventual (maybe) ruin an important gig or two. Most people remember the bad things that happen at a gig and not the good stuff. How many of you have heard or seen a bad dj in a club? How many of you have said to yourself “man, I can do a way better job that this tool”.

    It’s that kind of stuff that what will do more harm than good for our image. As someone said earlier, it’s bad enough that people already think of us as a jukebox. Vestex is just helping to reinforce that stereotype.

  • http://youtube.com/imfromthafutur cgdj

    [quote comment="23418"]DJtech tools is clearly endorsing any Vestax products, the integrity of the blog is gone, another way of submarine marketing , Congrats to Vestax to give enough ” care ” to EAN.[/quote]
    That’s mean, dude.
    This site has got madd integrity!
    Anyone who likes anything can come here and scream about how great it is. This I know all too well.

  • cgpublic

    As someone who presently uses DJay and a former NYC club DJ (48 years old) who worked exclusively with MK IIs & a Bozak, this thread is putting a big smile on my face.

    A club DJ will always be defined by the risks he or she is willing to take to blend various musical genres and expose their audience to new music to create a unique and personal dancing/listening experience.

    Technology can only facilitate such an experience in the hands of someone who truly understands what it means to be a DJ. Those who are threatened by technology most likely do not have anything personal or unique to share musically, and are only interested in defining themselves as a DJ and/or making money.

  • LiveFast, Stephen

    I look around I see a good blog full of whiners. People saying things like “now people are going to these things & take the real dj’s jobs” ahhh, people have said that about us controllerists since we started coming out of the tech world…they still do.

    I feel Vestax did it right for the poor guy on this one

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden (Dj TechTools)

    [quote comment="23449"]Vestex doesn’t really care about the DJ profession, all the care about is their bottom line ($’s) and the way to get those $’s into their bank account. In my opinion they sold their soul to Apple.[/quote]

    Thats really just not true- this product is not a big money maker at all. To make a product at this price point means very little margin. This product was made by Vestax because its a big deal to have a controller in apple stores- it helps expose the general public to our work.

    [quote comment="23447"]I want to see Saxophone Hero and a Jazz comeback. That would be sweet and imagine the Jazzophiles faces![/quote]

    Yes! :)

    [quote comment="23416"]
    To Ean : I know there isn’t usually that much camera motion in your video clips, but since you like hacking around with hardware you may wanna try building your own $20 steadycam :) ![/quote]

    nice one! thanks for the recommend, I am always looking for ways to improve the videos.

    For the good of the site- can we try not to delve into a fundamental debate on digital djing here? The forum is a great zone for that sort of discussion while I would prefer that this post be more focused on the pro’s and cons of the product. while I greatly appreciate the art of debate- if the comment zone turns into a ideological war then a lot of potential new readers will get turned off and dj techtools loses out.

  • Pissed Off

    [quote]Man, sounds like a lot of you are way more concerned about your image as a “serious dj” rather than your love of the art of dj’ing.[/quote]

    In my opinion being a “pro” and having a “love of the art of dj’ing” goes hand in hand. How else do you think some of us have been able to stay in this “hobby” over the years? I was probably spinning in clubs before some of you guys were out of diapers.
    Anywho, what I have a problem with, and what I run in from time to time (and it’s becoming much more frequent), are the folks that have no clue about what we actually do, the hard work it takes, and the time and money we have invested over the years to help raise this “art” to the next level. Kids are always looking for the next “fad”, and if it’s easy and cheap all the better. What they should remember and what they should take time to learn, is this stuff comes with hard work and practice.
    As I said before, will this get new blood into the dj industry? Yes it will and I’m glad about that, but for all those people willing and wanting to really better themselves, will also be a whole wack of wannabe dj’s that are only in it for the quick buck and could care less if the gig they do train wrecks. Those are the people that can and will do damage to all the hard work the “pros” have tried to maintain. Yes some people could care less what a dj uses to rock a gig, but at the same time cheap equipment that sounds bad has just as big of an impact on the overall professional image we are trying raise.

  • Pissed Off

    [quote]dude you’re a wedding dj, get real.[/quote]

    FYI, I still do clubs from time to time (18 gigs in the past year alone), but I make the majority of my income (way more money by the way) from weddings and corporate functions, which the latter affords me the creativity to mix & scratch and throw in the occasional remix that I do on the fly. I use either Serato or Virtual DJ with either time code vinyl, time code cd, or MIDI control depending on the gig I do. By the way, next time don’t assume that just because I choose to do mostly weddings, that I don’t know what a flare scratch or crab is, because I do (and yes I’m proficient at those things). As an old song goes… “what is a dj if they can’t scratch”. One more thing, if you want to see where this “hobby” came from, watch the movie “Scratch”. That movie should be mandatory viewing for anyone thinking of getting into this profession.

  • n2hf1st

    Guys, calm down. It costs $250 dollars. You get what you pay for in this profession.

    My guess… mediocre soundcard that’s noisy and drops out randomly, and a sync that only sometimes works. Hell even if you’re using ableton live (the “ultimate” in “cheating”) it’s still very possible for the program to mess up and your autoblend turns into a autotrainwreck. A bad dj crossfades between two records, a good dj keeps people dancing during the transition.

  • SherpaPsy

    If its $250 and includes a sound card, I am quite certain its not up to any serious club usage. Sad (or is it?) the software is Mac only, that’s going to reduce the appeal to the majority of people who use WinTel PC’s. I don’t see it as a game changer, still saving up for my VCI-100SE or AE ;)

  • VeinMelter

    If any pros wanted to stay on top of the food chain, they should leverage their skills by being a producer, and always be aware of marketing themselves.

  • f0tif0

    Another thing I wanted to mantion I am the owner of vci 300 and I cant wait to see vfx1 come out.
    The thing is how the hell vfx1 cost under 300 and this thing too.
    vESTAX GOT TO DROP THE PRICE FOR JUST AN EFFECTER GOD DAMN

  • kewlbreeze

    Man, sounds like a lot of you are way more concerned about your image as a “serious dj” rather than your love of the art of dj’ing.

    First off, the market already has lots of low cost, low quality, all-in-one dj packages out there, whether it be vinyl/cd based, or computer based. This is nothing new. Sounds like some of you are more upset that your beloved Vestax has joined the fray, taking away some of your much desired credibility, because you thought that by buying Vestax you were somehow showing that you were more serious than all those other hacks.

    Secondly, as many have mentioned, at this point, no software can truly make a person a good dj. Understanding the music, the key, the phrasing, eq’ing, etc, are still all extremely necessary to make the music flow together as it should. Those who try to shortcut there way into dj’ing, and spend no time working on their knowledge of these skills will go nowhere fast, and most likely give up before long because they wonder why their mixes don’t sound like “insert your favorite dj name here”.

    On top of that, those of you who got into dj’ing because you thought it would be a good career move…. man, I don’t know what to say. I’d say it’s much more important to do it because you love it, and hope that your hard work and dedication pay off. As mentioned, cheap gear has been readily available for a long while, so anyone can give it a shot. And we all know that there are way more people out there who don’t know a good dj from a bad one, and honestly don’t care. Does that make it harder for a good dj to get a gig, sure, but that’s pretty much same as it ever was. In every business there will always be some competitor there to undercut you with an inferior product. It’s up to you to work harder, educate your clientele, and dedicate your time and efforts to making your business venture a success. If you wanted life on easy street, choosing dj’ing as a career path was not a wise decision.

    Now, off to go find some good cheese to go w/ all this w(h)ine.

  • http://www.djsirkitbreaker.com kraal

    ok here is where i differ on this anti-SPIN arguement . I get my gigs based on word of mouth and a demo cd. They don’t know anything about what equiptment i own when they hire me. I use a vestax VCI-300 and people see it at the club and who cares if it looks like the spin.If a kid wants to think it is comparable to his SPIN good for him. And no i dont come from a place where there is NO competition. I come from a place where there is a ton of it. but see on my side of the block we build our reps on stills and rocking a crowd. You guys need not be afraid. when is the last time you been to target they sell dj controllers and guitars at mine. Remember DJintheBOX. I say let more entry level controllers come out. It will not dumb down the craft it actually will make it more noticed. club owners see this controller being sold at apple store so when a dj comes in with a controller maybe they will have more of an understanding of the non-turntable set up

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="23448"] In my opinion that is a big slap to the face of every single hard working DJ out there that does this stuff for a living.
    I don’t understand how some people here can be so gun-ho about this thing. It seems obvious (to me at least) that the people bitching about the haters of this toy are not doing this for a living, and they fail to see the downside of these “cool toys”. Yes, it may not be up to par with better controllers out there, but once the “average joe” see it in action, they will probably start to think that they too could end up doing gigs and sound good doing it just because it has automix & BPM match capabilities. In reality they have NO clue whatsoever of how much HARD WORK a REAL pro actually does to make sure a gig they do turns out to be successful. And that in my opinion is what will eventual hurt and severely damage the dj industry’s image.[/quote]

    dude you’re a wedding dj, get real. most wedding djs don’t even mix music and still get work… I think you’re completely overreacting.

    FYI I can guarantee you that most kids who start djing will not be going for wedding gigs because like you said they still live with their parents and aren’t djing to pay the bills, not to mention most those kids are going to focus on doing raves and club events because being a wedding dj isn’t exactly a dream kids aspire to be. So you really don’t have anything to worry about.

    Did you have this big of a hissy fit when apple released the Ipod? Because believe it or not that’s basically what the general population thinks DJs are, human ipods…and before the release of the ipod, people thought we were human jukeboxes. Sorry to burst your bubble guy but it’s true!

  • DjLego

    This is F’in ridiculous, you’re all having the same hater responses that turntablists originaly had with you when you showed up with your controllers, and you thought they were closed minded…

  • Double DutchDj

    Some of the comments people have left here are just insane, for some of you guys it seems like being a dj in America come’s with a lot of psychological baggage. What’s cool and whats not and what people think about you, who cares! Dj’ing is meant to be fun and meant bring good time’s to those at the party. As long as your having fun and the dance floor is rocking nothing else matters, end of story.
    ++++
    New’s flash, dj’n is easy any one can learn how to beatmatch, but to stand out with true class, originality and style take’s years to master, any right minded dj knows that?! So when you over hear fools mocking how easy dj’ing is ,A they do have a point and B does it really matter what the uneducated idiots think, unless of course you want every one around you to firmly believe you are the coolest kid in town, which really isn’t point of dj’ing. Plus if you was doing anything different to stand out you’ll always get respect from the uneducated regardless of there views on how easy dj’ing is.

  • Johbremat

    Sorry guys: couldn’t bring myself to read through the 70+ comments to see if this has been mentioned…

    - Look at the SOUNDACTIVE user on YouTube (Vestax Japan). When you look through the stills of SPIN, you’ll note that one hand is being used to hold it from the edge of the unit. That, and subsequent stills, just that the unit is smaller than the VCI-300; same-or-smaller size than the VCI-100 and made of plastic.

    - Comparing the current VCI series to the SPIN should be viewed as comparing Technic SL-1200s to Stanton T.60s, and as such I would say there is an inherent difference in quality.

    - VCI series looks more of a ‘pro’ product (IF you could even say that) than the SPIN. What you may find with this product is people interested in finding out what DJs are about will purchase this, then ‘upgrade’ to a VCI-300, or a VCI-100 and TANK or other audio interface based on quality of sound and build.

    I think we’ve seen a few over-reactions here. Hell, how many people have CDJ-400s versus 800s versus 1000s? Ot Technics versus Stanton versus Numark?

    It’s not what you got, it’s the way that you use it.

  • Pissed Off

    By the way, do you guys know how many people I have overheard lately that have said stuff like “I guess I will be able to do a party and sound good because I can let the program mix two songs together for me”?
    After the tidal wave of water passes and this “dj fad” goes away, they will have done irrevocable damage to the DJ image and profession.
    It’s already bad enough that lots of people out there already think that being a dj is pretty easy….all this toy does it help push that belief to the masses. Think of it like an urban myth, it may not be true, but if enough people start to beleive in it, it will eventually take on a life of it’s own. Sad really.

  • Old School DJ

    I can see where Pissed Off is coming from. The “average joe” will see this thing in an Apple store and will associate it with the iPod or iPhone (which I agree are both cool gadgets for the geek inclined). I guess Vestex is hoping that the “cool factor” will also rub off on this thing. In my opinion Vestex doesn’t really care about the DJ profession, all the care about is their bottom line ($’s) and the way to get those $’s into their bank account. In my opinion they sold their soul to Apple.

  • Pissed Off

    “whats wrong with some of these people???
    dont they read before they write?
    the controller is cheaper
    but that means you get less quality
    no this isnt competition for the 100 or 300″
    ++++
    But for the outsider looking in, they don’t know that. ;)
    All they see is an affordable device that will auto mix music for them and help them sound good, thus cheapening the overall impression they already have for the DJ profession. In my opinion that is a big slap to the face of every single hard working DJ out there that does this stuff for a living.
    I don’t understand how some people here can be so gun-ho about this thing. It seems obvious (to me at least) that the people bitching about the haters of this toy are not doing this for a living, and they fail to see the downside of these “cool toys”. Yes, it may not be up to par with better controllers out there, but once the “average joe” see it in action, they will probably start to think that they too could end up doing gigs and sound good doing it just because it has automix & BPM match capabilities. In reality they have NO clue whatsoever of how much HARD WORK a REAL pro actually does to make sure a gig they do turns out to be successful. And that in my opinion is what will eventual hurt and severely damage the dj industry’s image.

  • slangemenneske

    [quote comment="23416"]I want to see Saxophone Hero and a Jazz comeback. That would be sweet and imagine the Jazzophiles faces![/quote]
    You have won this thread! :)

    The controller may be affordable but you’ve gotta remember this is not a world where everyone has a mac(book) at home. There’s a number of other packages built with similar feature sets, which cover more market share, and there isn’t such a fuss about them.
    Vestax is releasing this with a good timing but really, how many people will get a macbook because of it, or figure out how to map this to other software by themselves ?

    To Ean : I know there isn’t usually that much camera motion in your video clips, but since you like hacking around with hardware you may wanna try building your own $20 steadycam :) ( http://steadycam.org/ ). Not sure how much it’d help on smaller, close to the target movements like those in this video but hey, DIY is fun regardless. Keep on truckin’ !

  • seeMARTINbreak

    whats wrong with some of these people???
    dont they read before they write?
    the controller is cheaper
    but that means you get less quality
    no this isnt competition for the 100 or 300
    its not a lot of controller for your money
    read the entire post before you post please!!!!

  • http://www.djforums.com shogg

    Ok,so it will be selling only bu Apple?No other dj store?That kinda sucks..im not an apple user,so if i buy this controller it will still work with other softwares right?

  • Dj AnyJock

    This is clearly an experiment from Vestax for making more money I mean, cheap controller, Dj Hero, Apple, all the booming DJ scene… damn… the Dj Scene got pwned and Vestax will make a LOT of $! Oh and no waveforms? Dont worry an update or a PRO version will take care of that!

  • http://www.myspace.com/cuttymello Mello

    @duerr +1 to everything u said, @pissed off for quite some time now everybody who can hold a camera can take pictures, but there are still pro photographers out there and even artists, making a living out of passion for something is always a struggle and sometimes frustrating but u get rewards that no other proever get´s. I´d simply call it audience participation ;-)

  • Johnny Vulcan

    Wow. Amazing response. I pretty much agree with both sides of this discussion, in some way or another. I think maybe for me the downside really boils down to 1) Apple Store, 2) Djay software and 3) The thing’s resemblance to my beloved VCI-100. Otherwise, rock on. A killer mix is a killer mix.

  • Daveq

    Sorry just to clarify the anon post was me

    Dj spunk – good luck and I look forward to hearing one of your mixes soon.

    Q

  • Dj AnyJock

    Well yes this thing will help a lot of kids having ‘DJ’ in front of their name and probably help them getting laid because they are a ‘DJ’ and yes this will get any real or PRO controllerist marked down as ‘one of those guys’ and yes this will steal a lot of work from the guy who DJ’s at a wedding for a living. And definetly good luck trying to explain the difference of your ‘PRO’ equipment to the ‘entry level’ equipment when they happen to play the same music AND the entry level look cooler for a lot of reasons including the fact that is for Mac. Also just like syncing BPM got auto so can many other of the more “difficult stuff” that “pros” do. So if you tought Dj Hero was a threat of watering down your effort, hello Spin!

  • Daveq

    That was posted by me btw sorry using a phone to post :)

    And also typo – should read “people using cheaper and/or different kit”

    Cheers guys, good debate is good for the soul

    Q

  • dj spunk

    i can’t wait to get this thing. i already asked my dad and he said he would buy it for me yeah!!! i download music from limewire and already have over 10000 songs and now I will be able to do parties like the big pro tiesto and sond good. if I got 50 bucks for a party that would be really cool to. and when I get better i will be able to make more money. :)

  • Anonymous

    I remember the happiest days of my Dj life in 1992 when I got hold of a pair of belt drive citronic sm150s and an entry level numark and taught myself to play. Didn’t have a hope of affording 1210s. Having to work so hard on the basic kit to sound good enough to play out (and there was a lot more competition in those days believe me – every house party would have at least 8 – 10 pretty decent Djs just itching to play) taught me that it is never about what you use, it’s how you use it. Healthy competition makes us all sharpen our game. The more the merrier as far as I’m concerned. Let’s not discriminate against people who use different and/or different kit to us – if they share our passion then that is all that is required.

    Full marks to Vestax for bringing what we do to a new audience. Not only will more people recognise how much real skill is required to properly rock, we have a better chance of seeing the next Sasha/Grooverider/Giles Peterson/Andrew Weatherall/insert name of genre-defining DJ here in our lifetime.

    Onwards the revolution!

  • I was a Vestex fan but not anymore

    In the eyes of the unejumucated (aka, joe public), anyone can be a dj now if they got this toy.
    ==========
    “this is a good thing, i can’t wait until some little punk who started djing on one of these things is creating work that you’d never be able to do in a hundred years because now he/she can finally afford to take the first step to pursue their interest in the craft.
    ===========
    From records to CD’s, then on to WAV and MP3′s ripped from my vinyl collection and also bought from legitimate record pools. I am more than well bversed in the technology that has pushed this profession forward, and I have seen the good and bad sides to this technology. Soundforge and Fruty Loops have allowed me to make my own music compostions/remixes, and have opened the door to endless possibilities, but that stuff takes time to learn and perfect. This toy helps people sidestep all that hard work and makes people think they are better than they really are. Look up the story of Icarus and you’ll understand what I’m getting at. But am I glad there are young people interested in this hobby/profession? Of course I am, but I and many others out there not happy at the way or speed at which this technology it’s progressing. As kilbot mentioned earlier “it does seem like djing is the new fad, and is approaching oversaturation ever too quickly!”
    I have recently heard some people call our profession the next “Walmart”… in other words “cheap and disposable”. If that description of our profession doesn’t bother you, then I guess you’re the same kind of person that would buy something from China instead of your own country, just because it’s cheaper and probably just as good. Shakes head.

  • http://www.trigitaliz.com Otto T

    shame on u vestax

    But well u need to make money 2 ill guess

  • Pissed Off

    If you really are a “pro” then be professional and work hard at your craft so that wannabes won’t be able to compete for your job. If you’re not bringing anything new to the table and creating an audience for your work that’s nobody’s fault but your own.”

    +++

    Maybe you live in a state or city that doesn’t have a whole lot of competition and doesn’t have brides looking for the best deal in town. But for the rest of us in the real world it’s not like that. This is especially true since the economy went belly up last year. A quick look on Craig’s List for almost any states or city will my prove my point. There are 1000′s upon 1000′s of wannabe dj’s out there all trying to get their slice of the American pie.

    It doesn’t matter if they are not in it for the long hall and just having fun. What is a bride going to say after her most important day is ruined? I should have spent more money on a pro? By that time the damage is done it can’t be reversed, and the wannabe dj is on to his next disaster.

    The real pro’s out there will see this for what it really is, a tool that will do more harm that good for the DJ industry as a whole. I can see it now, before a person hires a dj they will ask for their DJ Hero score to see how good they are. That would be a slap in the face of the pro that takes this profession seriously.

  • duerr

    [quote comment="23429"]I own Vestex and I can see it now. I’ll be a gig doing my thing and I’ll hear a young kid ask his dad “is that the controller you bought me? Yes son, it’s just like the one I bought you”.
    I kinda agree with some of the people here when they say we won’t be taken seriously anymore because any kid can now go out and get one of these cheap controllers and think they can be a “real” dj. This just helps lower the overall level of professionalism as it’s perceived by others outside our “dj world”. Looking at it from that point of view makes it seem like anyone can be a dj, and people looking for an affordable dj will quickly latch on that assumption very quickly.[/quote]

    you think you’re a “real dj” because you spent more money on your equipment then someone who can’t afford your “real dj” hardware? here’s a news flash, anybody CAN be a dj – only now it isn’t the exclusive domain of rich kids and people with disposable incomes.

    this is a good thing, i can’t wait until some little punk who started djing on one of these things is creating work that you’d never be able to do in a hundred years because now he/she can finally afford to take the first step to pursue their interest in the craft.

    I’m so glad that DJ HERO and VESTAX SPIN have entered the market because this means that the egotistical douche bags in the scene will soon become extinct and the REAL professionals who got their start from stuff like Vestax Spin can thrive without having to put up with bullshit from petty wannabes who think buying expensive equipment is all it takes to succeed in this industry.

  • kilbot

    vinyl does have waveforms… i don’t know if you could see it in a club though :P

    wow this post and all the comments are very interesting to read. there are definitely two sides to this.

    personally, i see the only difference here, is that it will be marketed and sold within apple stores. there are already cheap midi controllers. it’s just that in the past, you had to be somewhat serious to locate them and do some research to see what you wanted/needed to get started.
    being sold in an apple store as opposed to a music store is what i imagine really gets people’s blood boiling.

    i have to agree with the previous comment about cheapening what some of consider a life long passion. however growing up with little to no money, i could never warrant purchasing two real decks and a mixer.
    so now we’ve got this; opening up possibilities to some who not otherwise have them, versus impulse buys from kids at the apple store.

    it does seem like djing is the new fad, and is approaching oversaturation ever too quickly! but at the end of the day, only those who are serious will progress and more forward in their craft, while the others will just fade away.

  • I was a Vestex fan but not anymore

    I own Vestex and I can see it now. I’ll be a gig doing my thing and I’ll hear a young kid ask his dad “is that the controller you bought me? Yes son, it’s just like the one I bought you”.
    I kinda agree with some of the people here when they say we won’t be taken seriously anymore because any kid can now go out and get one of these cheap controllers and think they can be a “real” dj. This just helps lower the overall level of professionalism as it’s perceived by others outside our “dj world”. Looking at it from that point of view makes it seem like anyone can be a dj, and people looking for an affordable dj will quickly latch on that assumption very quickly.

  • duerr

    [quote comment="23421"]
    Vestex might of had good intentions, but I can see where this can go badly for them. [/quote]

    The only people who have anything to worry about are wannabes who put in the bare minimum effort just so that they can coast by without the dedication it takes to set themselves apart from the new generation of wannabes.

    If you really are a “pro” then be professional and work hard at your craft so that wannabes won’t be able to compete for your job. If you’re not bringing anything new to the table and creating an audience for your work that’s nobody’s fault but your own.

  • http://www.djsirkitbreaker.com kraal

    [quote comment="23425"]The Djay software has no waveforms. It would be hard to use in a club.[/quote]
    turntables have no waveforms so they will be hard to use in a club :)

  • http://www.djsirkitbreaker.com kraal

    saying vestax wont be taken serious is like saying m-audio isnt serious. This will give the younger/newer dj a chance the get something other than a totalcontrol to get their chops up.

  • dave

    The Djay software has no waveforms. It would be hard to use in a club.

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    [quote comment="23423"]is this controller better than the vci 100?[/quote]

    no- its really not. Its an entirely different controller. An entry level device that has been built to be sold at a low price point.

    trust me when I say its quite hard to build a controller that is half-way decent with a sound card for $249. Vestax really worked hard to make this controller affordable. They certainly had to make a lot of compromises in areas of quality but the end result is good for the market. This is very similar to the entry level turntables that people bought before they buy a pair of Techniques MK-1200′s. Its a good place to start but pretty soon people realize the difference and upgrade as their skills get better.

  • http://myspace.com/anhleminh anh

    is this controller better than the vci 100?

  • Double DutchDj

    Blimey! who’d a thought such a small thing could cause such an over reaction, I really don’t get why people have bad points to make about what looks like a decent entry level cheap little controller. We’ve all got a friend that always liked the idea of having a mess around but there not really interested in taking dj’n as a hobby to seriously. When turntables or cd players were the only option I’d find my self putting off, the not 100% committed. Simply because any cheap 1210 or cdj imitation were very hard to mix with in comparison to real versions. Like all the other vci’s this is midi, so all the controls will have similar if not the same resolution/performance as there more expensive siblings and to be fair, nearly all dj controllers look like toys especially a vci (would love to know a serious reason as to why that’s a bad thing), this is just a smaller looking toy. I’d certainly be pointing any body who’s half interested in just having a mess around in the spin direction, it’s a really good yet very simple bit of software which will give a cheap simple route in to dj’ing.

    I use timecode and this little gem would give me great access to all 4 fx units. vci 100 isn’t really for me but I’ve always loved Ean’s Fader Fx mode. As an fx controller I’d mirror Ean’s Fader Fx mode for 2 fx units and use the 2 EQ areas for the remaining 2 fx units, there’s even 3 buttons next to 3 eq faders for fx slot on/off. Plus via a modifier, it could serve for controls over deck c and d. Shamefully tempted, wish a non sound card version was released, a cheaper price tag would make me cave in.

    @Johnny b

    Really??!! maybe you should contact the internet police and make an official complaint about a controller based site announcing a release of a new controller with an insightful post about what this could mean to the controller culture. Then maybe you should start your own site and write three new posts week in week out about creative ways to dj. Which would be nice as Techtools seems to be the only dj site on the planet that actually has three brand spanking new article’s every week.

  • Pissed Off

    “Sounds like some of you guys are spitting the dummy because your “exclusive” gear doesn’t look so exclusive anymore.

    ++++++

    You don’t seem to understand. Let me try and make it simply. If those brides don’t give the real Pros a chance (because she’s trying to save a buck), it won’t mater what kind of gear the pro use. The pro won’t be in business for long, because of all the dj wannabes will do your party for $50. Sure, those $50 dj’s may suck big time, but the bride won’t know that until after the wedding is ruined and the cheap dj has given the rest of us real Pros a bad rep.
    Again, Vestex might of had good intentions, but I can see where this can go badly for them.

  • http://myspace.com/djprofmusic DJ Prof

    Oh yea… the EQ faders look exactly like Stanton’s battle mixers. Neat but i find them hard to use and too small travel.

  • djjc

    Some pretty sad comments here. Do you think that the more you pay for your equipment = the better DJ you are ? If entry level gear such as this encourages more people to get into DJing, and some real quality DJ’s come from that, then it’s a good thing. Sounds like some of you guys are spitting the dummy because your “exclusive” gear doesn’t look so exclusive anymore. Grow up and prove yourselves by the quality you produce when you play, not the cash you spent on equipment.

  • http://www.djtechpro.com DJ Chris (Dj Tech)

    DJtech tools is clearly endorsing any Vestax products, the integrity of the blog is gone, another way of submarine marketing , Congrats to Vestax to give enough ” care ” to EAN.

  • Pissed Off

    “I don’t know why dudes are freaking out, if this thing sells a ton that means more $$$ for Vestax to make better pro goodies.”

    +++++++++++

    Well that would also mean a whole bunch of wannabe dj’s flooding the market, and potentially stealing jobs from pros that do this “easy” dj thing for a living.

  • http://myspace.com/djprofmusic DJ Prof

    Yo, I remember first getting into the idea of digital DJing when i downloaded a cracked copy of virtual DJ.

    I got the hang of creating a set and feeling the flow of the composition over an hour of my set long before i learned to beatmatch. I now own TSP on my MBP, a top end Pioneer setup and play regularly throughout Scotland. Point is I wouldn’t be where I am now without VDJ and the excitement I felt when I got into mixing.

    I have loads of mates who have bought “£100 deck and mixer packages” or played around with VDJ and very few have stuck with it… How many of your friends DJ (a few?)? And how many of their friends DJ (even less)? we’re talking a really small market.

    So lets say only one in 20 kids who try out DJing actually sticks with it thats 5%.Whether it’s eJay or tradtional decks. Do you really think a new product will allow more people to reach the top? No. The ones with the skill and passion will move up onto better kit, playing bigger bars and clubs clubs and the “DJ Heroes” will move onto the next fad… I want to see Saxophone Hero and a Jazz comeback. That would be sweet and imagine the Jazzophiles faces!

  • http://www.ali.dj Ali

    It can’t be said for sure that the High-Res Jogs are compatible with Traktor Pro (at least from start).

  • dave

    Lets say I use this with Traktor pro on windows, Will I still be able to scratch with the jog wheels? Im assuming I will have to program all the midi also?

  • http://www.brentishouse.com Maestro B

    Actually, I’ve just been thinking about it. None of this matters. People think they can magically become DJs by buying software and controller, but its not true. I’ve heard some shocking mixes by people using software. They may have the beats in sync, but that’s about all. Basslines clash, totally incompatible keys, bad musical progression, etc. There *is* more to DJing than technology.

    DJing requires musical knowledge and appreciation. It also requires dedication and practice. The best DJs are very discerning about music and select songs carefully in order to keep a dance floor moving, while also building a pleasant sounding mix.

    Maybe getting these into everyone’s homes will make the general public appreciate how hard it is to make a nice sounding set. It might actually raise the status of “DJ as artist”.

  • http://www.brentishouse.com Maestro B

    [quote comment="23410"]It took me long enough already to prove myself not a bandwagon dj with a vci-100… now everyone will have this. Its frustrating to see such a respectable company sink this low and profit off a fad (but great marketing on their part). [/quote]

    That’s a good point. It does sort of cheapen the whole controllerism scene, somewhat, when these are marketed to the population in the same way as DJ Hero. It makes these midi controllers look like toys–already a criticism we face from die hard Vinyl users.

  • http://www.brentishouse.com Maestro B

    [quote comment="23370"]Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?[/quote]

    If you read through the article, you’ll see that it is designed to run with DJay software, exclusive to Mac. But as a midi controller, you should be able to use it with midi software running on Windows.

  • Anthony M

    It took me long enough already to prove myself not a bandwagon dj with a vci-100… now everyone will have this. Its frustrating to see such a respectable company sink this low and profit off a fad (but great marketing on their part). I will still use my 100, but I just want to let Vestax know that although they will get massive numbers of new “mash-up” customers, they will also be losing the respect and business of the ever shrinking minority of artists who dj out of true love for music. I don’t dj to try to be like Girltalk, Milkman, AM (RIP), or Ean, I do it because my entire life I wanted to DJ, and right after I start getting pretty good at beat-matching and controllerism, Vestax is making me look like “one of those guys.” I understand that equipment doesn’t make a difference, but i cant help but imagine the apple store on Monday with all the new “DJ’s” who found their passion while waiting on repairs of their ipod (newly stocked with “Fix Your Face” after watching the sad news about DJ AM). Im sure im not the only one who feels this way, but it’s frustrating to see something which I put so much time and money into (keyboard controller, beatpad, soundcard, vci-100, speakers, etc..) being sold to the masses with a sliver of previous quality. The main reason I bought vestax was the superb metal quality, but I guess they no longer pride themselves on this. I just needed to say that….(im pumped to battle the new dj’s though!!

    spin vs vci-100= no question

  • duerr

    [quote comment="23385"]@duerr.

    Is that what Djing has become? Playing the “lowest common denominator” just to keep a bunch of drunk retards dancing? To me it’s a little more than that. If disagreeing with that means I’m taking myself too seriously, I guess that’s as risk I’m willing to take.[/quote]

    djing has always been about entertaining people at parties, that’s where it started. the roots of djing came out of discotheques and hiphop parties of the 70s and 80s, and today the dj’s primary function is still very much the same – to entertain the people at parties. i’m sorry if that isn’t enough for you but if it isn’t, your djing for the wrong reasons. it’s not about you; it’s always been about showing other people a good time.

    i can understand your frustration as i feel this past year that the DJ scene has been somewhat watered down with over-exposure from the media, pop culture and corporations like apple trying to milk it until people get sick of it. but you need to realize that this happens to every cultural niche at some time or another; it’s happened to hiphop, rock’n’roll, punk, and to a lesser extent dance music (in the late 90s early 00s). Now we’re seeing it happen to the DJing culture specifically.

    If you DJ because you love music and love showing people a good time, nothing is going to change that. But if you DJ because you wanted to make that your identity and way to stick out from the crowd to be cool, well tough luck because DJing isn’t cool anymore so get used to it.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="23398"]If you ask me it’s tougher to mix with this bad boy then a vci-100.[/quote]

    yeah dude, AUTOMIX and BPM-SYNC sounds SO hard to mix with.

  • L

    eq faders??? hmmmm. I’m thinking iDj is next. Can’t be a bad thing, just another controller to separate the serious djs from the not so serious ones. Can’t wait to see one hacked, cut up and hot glued to the VCI as some sort of underground VCI-200 special edition mod. bah!

  • http://justanotherhipsterkid.blogspot.com doubleyou

    [quote comment="23382"][quote comment="23379"]That’s it, who wants to buy my VCI? I quit..have fun playing the 200th remix of Paper Planes losers. What the fuck is next? DJing really has turned into a fucking joke.[/quote]

    all we do is mix other people’s music in front of drunk people, it’s not rocket science.[/quote]

    truth. i know a lot of “microwave” djs, but the ones that aren’t serious will get bored after a while and the ones that are really doing it because they love it will progress.

  • Anonymous

    I understand a few of the critiques regarding the lessening of the idea of controllerism by introducing a “cheap” basic entry level controller into the hands of the masses. I have, probably like some of you, been the receiver of a few inappropriate comments by so called vinyl purist DJs due to my use of VCI digital tech to play music. But you just shake them hatas off, and do your thing. I can’t imagine vinyl DJs threatened by introduction of $100 turntables and mixers…
    Overall, I don’t think this is going to hurt the field, instead it seems almost like recognition by a mass market of the digital DJ movement, which has the potential to improve the available technology, hopefully. Perhaps popular demand will also lead to a larger and higher quality supply of digital music downloads and propriety controllers and software.
    I do like the design layout of this controller, but naturally, would need something built with more durability and integrated with open software and midi control. Here’s to more ideas.

  • Priscilla

    [quote comment="23392"]Seriously?
    I understandt techtools for representing vestax, however that piece of midi controller rather seems to be an addon rathaer than being a serious way of expressing crreativty by mixing music….
    AND thats what this blog is all about mixing music in a another way!

    Surely a disapointing article. However understandable…

    btw…same with the key software “smackdown”…[/quote]

    But if you think about it, it is serious. What makes it not serious. People use to mix with tape decks, It’s not the gear, it’s what you do with it. This gear has everything you need, eq’s volume faders, and pitch faders. If you ask me it’s tougher to mix with this bad boy then a vci-100.

    Just my thoughts. No offense to your comment

  • dizzle

    Vestax “For the People” = Sony “My First Walkman”

  • mblakely

    I was at the apple store today and saw this thing, it is pretty small the box at least.

  • skwrl

    [quote comment="23389"]I actually really like this and would probably dump my scs3′s depending on how responsive the jog wheels are.[/quote]

    i kinda want to get one and steal the jogs from it and put them on my vci100!!

  • skwrl

    well, this really confuses me. i have a lot of desire to play with one, and at the same time the desire to break one. it makes me wish i were a lot younger and just getting into djing and then seeing this. i like toys, and it seems like a toy, and all at once, it makes me feel like all i’m doing is playing with toys… oh wait, i am ;)

    digital djing, even djing with records/cds is all about playing. its having fun, and if there is all of a sudden an entry into it, great, go for it next generation. keep in mind that when any dj started out it wasn’t on a couple techniqs with a xone mixer. (unless they were lucky)

    we all started somewhere, and now, there is a new starting point.

  • johnny b

    Seriously?
    I understandt techtools for representing vestax, however that piece of midi controller rather seems to be an addon rathaer than being a serious way of expressing crreativty by mixing music….
    AND thats what this blog is all about mixing music in a another way!

    Surely a disapointing article. However understandable…

    btw…same with the key software “smackdown”…

  • nate

    of course people are threatened by this product… it makes all you pros feel like us kids are having one more thing handed to us. Thats just the way it is. Think about how vinyl dj’s felt when digital dj equipment was first introduced. Just enjoy the music and view this as what it truly is: a product that will increase interest dj’ing and most certainly advance the trade. just my thoughts

  • Priscilla

    I think it’s pretty cool. I mean who cares if other people pick one up. At one point in our lives we were those people, so more power to ya. If there is more demand for controllers, then we will see higher quality and a better market. So I say bring em’ on.

  • mike_o

    I actually really like this and would probably dump my scs3′s depending on how responsive the jog wheels are.

  • philll

    the whole thing reminds me on an ikea advertisement :D ;)
    “are you still djing..

    but i realy like the eq faders!

  • James D

    I don’t know why dudes are freaking out, if this thing sells a ton that means more $$$ for Vestax to make better pro goodies.

  • gollnitronix

    As controllerists, you among all DJ’s should know that it’s not about what you use to DJ, rather, it’s always been about what you spin and how you mix it. If you are someone who is worried about your equipment not looking cool enough compared to the standard fare, build your own controller – if you show up with a homemade controller, by default you already seem cooler than someone with one of these things (or a VCI for that matter). Regardless, you have to SOUND good to be considered a good DJ – no matter what new product they come out with, this will never change.

  • Agent_Cooper

    @duerr.

    Is that what Djing has become? Playing the “lowest common denominator” just to keep a bunch of drunk retards dancing? To me it’s a little more than that. If disagreeing with that means I’m taking myself too seriously, I guess that’s as risk I’m willing to take.

  • nateboogee

    The equipment does not define you.
    you define the equipment.

    Many turntablists.
    Only one Qbert

    Many controllerists.
    One Ean Golden

    Nuff Said.

  • philll

    oh my gosh. i just got my daily techtools and it kind of scares me. whats next ?
    but i like the eq-faders :D
    the whole thing is a joke ,isnt it ?

  • http://www.xnth.net/scott dj p1ll

    I wonder if I’ll be any good at DJ hero?? :) put my skills to the ultimate test :P

  • Johnny Vulcan

    Great. As if I don’t have “prove” myself to people unfamiliar with the VCI often enough, now there’s this thing, that every frat boy and wannabe jock under the sun is gonna own, and of course it looks exactly like the controller that I take very seriously. Nice. The conversation will change from “what the hell is that you’re using” to “No, I don’t use Djay. Yes, I can beatmatch.”
    I AM for creative tools for the masses, it’s just the unrelenting momentum of the market can be a thorn in my side sometimes. Ha! Here I am sounding like an old vinyl purist… funny times.

  • http://www.lovebump.com Jamie Lovebump

    This thing is going to sell by the bucketloads. The price point is VERY cheap and most people who buy this wont care about a reduction in quality.

    All those “DJ” guys you see at a house party with their laptop playing iTunes… they are going to jump on this in a second.

    Genius bit of marketing by Vestax. I will certainly be going to have a look at it in the Apple store, just to see the quality of it.

    That’s if I can get within 100 meters of it…

  • Ron Solo

    This really makes the VCI-300 seem like less bang for the buck.

  • jannick

    strange don’t know what to think of it … it’s 1:32 am in germany right now time to sleep

  • James D

    So is this any kind of indicator of a VCI-100 follow-up product? Because $250 for a controller with an audio interface is pretty unprecedented. Team this thing up with an Akai LPD8 and that’s a lot of controller for the money.

  • Leonardo Pilz

    Hello,
    I am interested in this product. How can I get it? It is compatible with Windows XP or 7?