• http://www.djsirkitbreaker.com kraal

    [quote comment=""]Just read on Engadget that “Scratch” may not actually be released : http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/scratch-the-ultimate-dj-hands-on//quote
    dont worry about that i worked graphic design for many video games that had no developer

  • http://www.keyofgrey.com KeyOfGrey

    Just read on Engadget that “Scratch” may not actually be released : http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/scratch-the-ultimate-dj-hands-on/

  • digital.dude
  • http://www.myspace.com/tooltablist Mudo


    The Numark controller will be historic (as soon it will hacked).

    About games and software… well developers and corps look at DJ/turntablist as a entertainers not as a musicians then don’t wait some fresh approach than these.

    Of course you could play ANY game with a HID device… like super mario or wathever else.

    Only interesting for Scratch practicers, for mixing or controllerism which kind of game you imagine?

    Hit buttons and combos without freedom to perform and giving you a “rank” as better you fit the imposed “timing” is kill the performing into a mechanical “one way”.

    It could be better some “jamming band” and multiplayer instead 1vs1 combo game. Almost one based on true technic not in a “corp way”.

    Just my2cents.

  • Hertzius

    Hi everyone,

    personally Im adept to beatgames like Beatmania IIDX and Ez2DJ, that are suposedly controllerism simulators (In fact they became more clicker maniac games than real dj simulators), There are some online games like this, but I seriously doubt they will help with timing at real mixing bcus they are not oriented mostly to fx.

    I own a Beatmania IIDX gamepad and I connected it to my pc using a usb adapter, what I did was map it on Traktor 3.3 for use with hotcues and I think it works ok. The program I used to map the control was named Joy2Key. Im lookin forward to make video, bcus Im new to djtechtools

    The Name´s Hertzious

  • http://www.djnvidia.info/ DjNvidia

    Hey Ean,

    The controller is very different. Here is the link to the actual image file:

    http://djhero.com/assets/images/game_view_tut.jpg

    http://djhero.com/assets/images/game_view_tut_2.jpg

    http://djhero.com/assets/images/game_hero_overview_en.jpg

    Also watch this video to see how the game looks and plays:

    http://cdn.djhero.com/djhero/media/111/DJHero_E3_468_267.flv

  • Cyrgon

    Forgot to mention some portable music games.

    Something “controllerism-like” is harder to find, but what you’re looking for is probably something like DJMax for the PSP.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ankkswG5s&feature=related

    If we are talking about music games in general then maybe Elite Beat Agents for the DS (or the japanese version “Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!”) can work good.. It is entertaining nonetheless :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyfNcKE8-lI

    For the PC you have a larger selection of music games to choose from, there is a free simulator for dance games called Stepmania you can download, it doesn’t come with any songs though so you will have to find them by yourself. There are tons of songs from various genres though, so there shouldn’t be a problem finding songs you like. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2zjy0Ti-nQ

    O2Jam is a music game where you use your keyboard (or whatever controller you have mapped to the buttons), meaning you can have it on your laptop and won’t need an additional controller (same with stepmania, can be played with the arrow keys).

  • RCUS

    hey ean! i think there’s a little confusion on these controllers.

    the controller you posted a picture above is actually for a game called scratch: the ultimate dj. here’s the link:

    http://scratchvideogame.com/index2.php/scratch/101

    the DJ Hero by Activision has an entirely different controller with three buttons on a platter that is not motorized, along with an effects knob and “euphoria” button. the DJ Hero game apparently also works with a guitarist and vocalist too. i saw a demo at E3 yesterday and it looked super fun for a party game, but not for controllerism.

    http://www.djhero.com/

    the better dj video game controller for controllerism is clearly the numark one for scratch: the ultimate dj.

  • Cyrgon

    I have played guitar hero for a while, but the game
    I like the most to get my music game fix is Beatmania! Seven buttons, one
    scratch disk, each note triggers a sample so if you play out of sync
    it won’t sound very well at all. On the harder difficulties most of
    the song is played by the samples from the notes.
    The game features lots of electronic music.. As a beginner the game can be quite frustrating since the timing is tight and the general difficulty is high, even at the easiest level, but I love it!
    I used one of the controllers as a midi controller before I got
    my nanopad, worked pretty well, the layout of the controller is pretty ok too bad the scratch isn’t analogue.

    Some youtube links (don’t get too intimidated by the difficulty.. there are easier levels too but they aren’t uploaded as often on youtube)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIkiKA7cjgo

  • http://www.project-segfault.net Segfault

    There is already a game like this out called Beatmania IIDX on playstation, and there is probably a version for the computer.

    It has a controller that looks similar to this, but with more buttons that are arranged closer to a piano keyboard.

    Its great fun, even if I suck at it.

  • mtvstinks

    I am curious to know if the addition of pong in Scratch Live was intended to increase a users scratch accuracy based on a certain time or even dot( sticker) on a record. I own SL but actually have never played the games,

    Does anyone know if the ball increases in speed when playing pong in SL?

  • davemex

    [quote comment="18955"]It’s only a matter of time before this DJ Hero controller will be ‘cracked’ to control music software like Traktor, Serato, or Ableton. I wonder if the majority of consumers will buy this game just to have a new controller for their live music arsenal. If the price is low enough I’d bet on it.[/quote]

    Forget cracking the controller to use with a live setup, I’d want to do the opposite. I’d want to use the controller I’m used to in the game instead of the other way around. How hilarious would it be to play that game using a VCI-100?

  • mpetersen3

    wow so my above post is mad broken, here is the correct dl link for frets on fire
    fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/

  • mpetersen3

    hey-thats a great suggestion! Can you recommend any midi compatible games off the top of your head? I am also looking to identify a portable game that can be played on the go to improve timing. Some readers out there must know of a few, so lets turn the comments on this one into a recommendation thread.[/quote]

    So after a brief search during class (I should be studying but screw it I love DJTT) I found Frets on Fire, a freeware game for OSX/Windows and Linux. It works with the keyboard, guitar hero controllers and the wii controller. So I wonder if we could use our midi controllers with it by remapping midi->hid, could someone confirm/correct that this iws what needs to be done?

    I am going to keep searching for some more of these apps, as I personally find it redundant to have to strum at each note and would rather have my hands doing two separate things, as this actually trains us to mentally sync our hand motions instead of desynchronising them (which is good for drumming and patterns right?) or is it better to have them taught synchronicity? (opinions/answers please)

    Here is a blog post abot fres on fire
    http://hotmilkydrink.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/04/frets_on_fire_f.html

    And here is a link to the website that hosts the free DL of Frets on Fire tsonfire.sourceforge.net/

  • MBlakely

    I have noticed in your performance videos that great timing makes your music sound much better. How do you recommend practicing with a metronome? Such as the one built into traktor should I set it at 125 bpm and click along? I have no formal music study, what timing practice will make cue point juggling and fader fx sound the best for say a song at 125bpm and four four timing? Thanks for all your work on this site.

  • Jonny Pez

    It’s only a matter of time before this DJ Hero controller will be ‘cracked’ to control music software like Traktor, Serato, or Ableton. I wonder if the majority of consumers will buy this game just to have a new controller for their live music arsenal. If the price is low enough I’d bet on it.

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    [quote comment=""] Actually I know that there are these games out there, it might make a good supplement to this article,[/quote]

    hey-thats a great suggestion! Can you recommend any midi compatible games off the top of your head? I am also looking to identify a portable game that can be played on the go to improve timing. Some readers out there must know of a few, so lets turn the comments on this one into a recommendation thread.

  • mpetersen3

    I am excited to see this as it will be fun to jam out on a pad based controller, which is much more comfy and a lot easier (see less tiring on my wrists) and lets you practice timing. It is too bad that there isn’t a program for computer that is free and gives you the same interface minus graphics and could be used with existing midi pads (which are probably higher quality anyways and doesn’t require spending several hundred bucks). Actually I know that there are these games out there, it might make a good supplement to this article, like hey here is a free pc version that with a mid-> hid converter works the same way, and can be used with any pad with midi.