I knew there would be a reason to love SSL again. Controlling a live audio signal…Phenominal!!!!!!!!!!

How far back can you rewind and then scratch? What functions can be used with the live signal? Please explain this further if ya know what I'm getting at.

[quote comment=""]How far back can you rewind and then scratch? What functions can be used with the live signal? Please explain this further if ya know what I'm getting at.[/quote]

The Live Feed stores a full 1 minute of audio before it's written over.

above all features that are new to 1.9.0 – live feed is so dope. in fairness, other programs have many of these features taht are just now being added to Scratch Live

Darrin you win the award for most level headed SSL fan!

Also, I think "50% more airhorn" is the best way to describe the sampler.

Good article Monika, this is really pushing me to get a SSL box! I love the air horn, but I need more cowbells!

i come here for the jokes! Our siren just broke at our club. we have a 2 confetti cannons, 8 large plasma screens, a bubble machine, but we're still pissed we haven't had a siren for 3 weeks. One of my co-workers will buy this based on the SP-6 alone.

50% MORE AIRHORN.

you guys are silly

Live feed is a dope feature!

So this live feed feature will only be available to SL1 users as the new SL3 nolonger has a mic input?

[quote comment=""]So this live feed feature will only be available to SL1 users as the new SL3 nolonger has a mic input?[/quote]

Absolutely not! The SL-3 will use the AUX inputs to draw from, and the TTM 57SL uses the AUX input on the mixer!

The live feed is available to any level of user of serato!

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Talk about midi sync with ableton Live and Live Feed.

Talk about new plug for Ableton Live sending "scrubbing" to live clips.

Talk.

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[quote comment=""]…

Talk about midi sync with ableton Live and Live Feed.

Talk about new plug for Ableton Live sending "scrubbing" to live clips.

Talk.

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Mudo. There is no simple technique to do any of these things. There are a few devices out there like the SoundBITE Micro that will help it easier to MIDI sync. And there is currently no official plug-in to "scrub" clips in Ableton using SSL. You can always route your Ableton output into SSL and scrub the audio using Live feed. I know everyone is anxious for the big announcement from either Ableton or Serato, but keep in mind it took three years before Cycling '74 and Ableton announced the fruits of their labor. It will take some time before we see any major announcements from either camp.

However there sure are several "hacks" you can use to start syncing up the two right now, but they're dirty, involve several sound cards, lots of cables and sometimes a few laps around the DJ booth. I really recommend taking a deep breath and waiting till you hear some new news!

hmmm SERATO…. I've played with serato gc couple times I like it.. I've been thinking of getting it.. now it seems it might come true after this update…

[quote comment="17745"]Good article Monika, this is really pushing me to get a SSL box! I love the air horn, but I need more cowbells![/quote]

Agrees!

Airhorns are great, cowbells the bomb! :D

Nice write up! And Serato finally drops some of the newer goods in!

I just bought a SL3..The unit is louder and sounds warmer than Audio 8 or SL1. Easy to hook up too. I like Serato because it is old skool, solid as a rcok, classic style dj'in with a modern touch. I got my mixer for all the fx n filters. I heard a 3rd virtual deck is in da works..for aux out 3.

How has the midi improved in SSL 1.9.0?

[quote comment=""]How has the midi improved in SSL 1.9.0?[/quote]

Some things I noticed: now all loop amount values can be set for example to a knob and rotating the knob adjusts the loop amount. Also loop on and loop roll can be set to midi..Loop roll can can go as low as 1/32! Sampler triggers can be also set to midi..

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Dear Monica,

Do these two things are now possible without maxforlive (but trought pure data) and Live8 recognizes midi from Serato but actually is not working.

Syncing Clock from Serato to Live is the first "new" implementation and some kind of "native" plug or max patch for directly clip scrubbing is already possible and programable (but it is possible that Rane prefer integrate ITCH before SSL).

The question is not how hard to do is (because I know how to), the question is why to pay for something which is relative free (Pure Data integration inside ableton) or relative cheap (Ms. Pinky Maxmsp based and delivered with sdk) and how Ableton Serato will do their "handshake" for keep closed what is FREE?

The worst thing in this situation becomes when the Freedom will be the way to GROW UP altogether but the corps are afraid to free (or cheap) creativity.

I'm not ansious, I'm bored about waiting something that is already done.

http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=864

Take your time.

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Yea, what he said. Bravo Mudo!

[quote comment="17769"]…

Dear Monica,

Do these two things are now possible without maxforlive (but trought pure data) and Live8 recognizes midi from Serato but actually is not working.

Syncing Clock from Serato to Live is the first "new" implementation and some kind of "native" plug or max patch for directly clip scrubbing is already possible and programable (but it is possible that Rane prefer integrate ITCH before SSL).[/quote]

Nope. The myth of Ableton 8 receiving Serato signals is not true. Being an owner of both software and being someone who uses both consistently live, I can say, unfortunately, the two are not already sync-able. And of course maxforlive is not released to the public as of yet.

If you've got a method for syncing the two please share, I'm sure the community would be excited to see the two linked up!

[quote comment="17766"]How has the midi improved in SSL 1.9.0?[/quote]

Along the lines of what I discuss in the article. The latency and jitter experienced by some SSL users is not gone and MIDI feels tighter and smoother.

*now gone

[quote comment="17769"]or relative cheap (Ms. Pinky Maxmsp based and delivered with sdk) and how Ableton Serato will do their "handshake" for keep closed what is FREE?[/quote]

After reading this again, I thought I'd mention that this is a great point. Once we see the end result of the Serato/Ableton team-up (and if in fact it means integrating SSL into Ableton). it will be interesting to see if they in fact will be integrating it on a level that maxforlive will not be capable of doing. As they will have to be competitive to people making maxforlive plug-ins for Traktor and the like.

Unfortunately, until we see maxforlive released or a Serato/Ableton press release we'll just have to wait and see!

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Hi again Monica,

I know is not possible to sync them up but when you plug Serato and run Ableton in MIDI PREFERENCES you could see MIDI IN PORTS.

Maybe a bug?

Serato could send midi out time clock and Live could listen it (if it is not released at this time but it is completely possible, look at traktor please)

About integrating Ms. Pinky object (or the Serato Object for PD that is in the internet) it is perfectly possible if Ableton wants (of course) and Live Feed is a bit maxmsp "patching" over the new LOOPER ableton instrument.

Maybe they are offset?

Competition?

DVS are outdated, ITCH is the new "flava" (and HID the solution for all)

This is how Corps (RANE Serato) are working. Leaving the vinyl or… maybe they (ableton Serato and BabytalkFX) listened any of my advice/mail/internet noise (like this)…

I'm wrong? then Serato is lost…

I'm right? then Live Serato are handshaking for keep "their" system closed and unique.

It's not hate, it's boring… It must be done since Cycling+Ableton partnership. Serato needs some "developers"… maybe they could give a job for Scott Wardle.

I need a job too but maybe I make anything really free with Pure Data… I'm so tired to wait, It could be better start studing PD in 2002 instead wait and wait and wait for developers.

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[quote comment="17774"][quote comment="17769"]or relative cheap (Ms. Pinky Maxmsp based and delivered with sdk) and how Ableton Serato will do their "handshake" for keep closed what is FREE?[/quote]

After reading this again, I thought I'd mention that this is a great point. Once we see the end result of the Serato/Ableton team-up (and if in fact it means integrating SSL into Ableton). it will be interesting to see if they in fact will be integrating it on a level that maxforlive will not be capable of doing. As they will have to be competitive to people making maxforlive plug-ins for Traktor and the like.

Unfortunately, until we see maxforlive released or a Serato/Ableton press release we'll just have to wait and see![/quote]

I can't see why anyone would want to run traktor into Live. Traktor's one up on SSL is it's filters and MIDI ability. Once you have Ableton Live why would you want Traktor's filters? Traktor is bloated and poor preforming these days. The SSL/traktor component of the equation is just to give a familiar mixing system to DJs and to remove the need to spend hours and hours trying to Warp tracks accurately. Personally I'm looking at Torq/Ms. Pinky as were to go now. With Ms. Pinky's SDK your truely limited only but your imagination (and coding skill) with MAX for live the possibilities just get endless.

O and a side note Serato 1.9's SP-6 doesn't sync/pitch adjust does it?

[quote comment=""][quote comment="17774"][quote comment="17769"]or relative cheap (Ms. Pinky Maxmsp based and delivered with sdk) and how Ableton Serato will do their "handshake" for keep closed what is FREE?[/quote]

After reading this again, I thought I'd mention that this is a great point. Once we see the end result of the Serato/Ableton team-up (and if in fact it means integrating SSL into Ableton). it will be interesting to see if they in fact will be integrating it on a level that maxforlive will not be capable of doing. As they will have to be competitive to people making maxforlive plug-ins for Traktor and the like.

Unfortunately, until we see maxforlive released or a Serato/Ableton press release we'll just have to wait and see![/quote]

I can't see why anyone would want to run traktor into Live. Traktor's one up on SSL is it's filters and MIDI ability. Once you have Ableton Live why would you want Traktor's filters? Traktor is bloated and poor preforming these days. The SSL/traktor component of the equation is just to give a familiar mixing system to DJs and to remove the need to spend hours and hours trying to Warp tracks accurately. Personally I'm looking at Torq/Ms. Pinky as were to go now. With Ms. Pinky's SDK your truely limited only but your imagination (and coding skill) with MAX for live the possibilities just get endless.

O and a side note Serato 1.9's SP-6 doesn't sync/pitch adjust does it?[/quote]

So will this Work well with the VCI-100 and will we need to switch back to the firmware 1.2 or can we stay with firmware 1.3 if we can use the VCI-100? I wonder why they don't include the samplers in all the programs, Airhorns, TruckHorns, Sirens, Glass Break, Screaming, Whistlers, the clap, a Smack, and other various sounds. It would be better to do that you know like have like a side or bottom bar with a play button with a selector that will allow you to select the sound and play it that way it would end up on a mix that you are recording from within the program. So is SSL that way, or it only has a few horns and thats it?

Can you do a story just on tha live feed. In detail? cAN YOU PUT IT INTO TWO DECKS? Stuff like that?

[quote comment=""]Can you do a story just on tha live feed. In detail? cAN YOU PUT IT INTO TWO DECKS? Stuff like that?[/quote]

Great Thread! The thing to really remember about this update is the SL-1 users got the software portion for free, and we will get all future ones the same way!

[quote comment=""] i gotta say that since i upgraded to the SL3 box setting has been so easy and flawless so far! compared the the SL1 box where i was nervous of whether or not it was going to work and on many an occasion it didn’t work. Joining the phono and line as one connection , makes it so much more reliable and the sound is much warmer now, nice job Rane! [/quote]

i was wondering if anyone had some help to offer..I dowloaded 1.9 and yes it is great…question…I want to record some mixes and when i start to record..my cue points no longer work when i start recording. I am =in Rel mode i checked…and i need to close scratch and restart to render the cue points workable again…
thank you

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At last!

http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=921&highlight=

It is done.

Thanks for watching.

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PD: Monica I still need a job.

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