• raverX

    Has this loop hole recently been plugged? I’ve tried multiple random proxies and even configured a proxy server on a box in the States which is stripping out all the forwarded-for headers, and still get “Restricted” when trying the tracks I want (Rope – deadmau5 remix)

  • Ld

    Isn’t Boris from New York? He was born in Russia, but resides in NYC…

  • Ld

    Isn’t Boris from New York? He was born in Russia, but resides in NYC…

  • Ld

    Isn’t Boris from New York? He was born in Russia, but resides in NYC…

  • Ld

    Isn’t Boris from New York? He was born in Russia, but resides in NYC…

  • http://twitter.com/tehk tehk

    fucking brilliant! i always thought this may work, but figured beatport would have smarter server side technology to see what was going on. glad you cleared up that misconception for me :)

  • http://twitter.com/tehk tehk

    fucking brilliant! i always thought this may work, but figured beatport would have smarter server side technology to see what was going on. glad you cleared up that misconception for me :)

  • Daryl

    This comment thread was well worth the read. I think “Label Person” really hit the nail on the head when he said “territory restrictions are painful to many buyers”.

    Way to put consumers first.

    (Sorry, I didn’t read the rest of his/her dribble)

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="39439"]This is because we are getting serious about people stealing outside the limits.

    Steeeeeeeealing, right. I’ll steal from beatport, with my debit card..[/quote]

  • Chris

    I usually will go to beatsdigital.com when I run into a restriction on beatport. They seem to always let me download them from there.

  • http://www.beatport.com beatport

    Actually no you cant resell it – because it could be stolen and then you need receipts etc with every file you buy

    so there is no resale value what so ever.

    BP

  • Es

    I agree it’s not beat port to blame, it’s the whole record industry. I can’t be bothered with this proxy stuff and am paranoid of my personal privacy over proxy so if I can’t buy a track, I’ll just DL it for free.
    Also what’s with the sale of mp3s anyway? I can sell records or CDs I buy, but once I’ve paid for an mp3 I can’t resell it on. So therefor once it’s paid for it’s worth nothing! So all the digital djs like me who have 100s of tracks from beat port, you have no resale value for your investment.
    That sucks, the music industry are evil!

  • http://www.beatport.com beatport

    This is because we are getting serious about people stealing outside the limits.

    This will get a lot more serious, when we have to submit a list of all IP address to the RIAA in a number of weeks, for them to check out who buys from us online

    Of which we will be getting lists of proxy servers that will be banned from connecting with our site..

    • Bluecamaro9972

      thats probably when we will all just quit buying music period and say phuk it and you will be out of a job.

    • Eatabigfatone

      ohh boo fucking hoo! you guys kill it in the digital markett, I wan’t a Nahn Solo remix and i cant get it cause I live in Australia!! Seriously WTF? If I can’t get it off you guys then I’ll go somewhere else and fucking get it! I spend 1000′s of dollars every year at your store and the respect I get is territory restrictions! Eat a dick! I’m a DJ and I want elusive music so that people can run up to me and say what’s this track? what a fucking crime! Cocks!

  • fred

    I’m using a vpn in USA but I still can’t buy the tracs , say “one” from swedish house mafia, ibiza 2010 cd.

    I did everything, cleared cookies… I don’t get it, any idea ?

  • tvrdloch

    fuck proxy, fuck beatport, im gona steal it if they dont want to sell it to me

  • Anonymous

    What is currently the best proxy for beatport? I can’t visit any page with the one in artcile.

  • http://non Label owner MrHumble

    I would just like to say as a label owner my reasons for territory restrictions are as follows.

    First of all let make it clear a record label is a company first.
    so…….

    A. I would have to hire a lawyer to go through the very long contract to identify what would be the benefits of not territory restricting and to make sure I know where i stand legally with Beatport and the distributor.
    The less territory the shorter the contract, the less costs I pay and therefore the more chance I will have money to spend on interesting things like artwork,new websites and new artists.

    B.Lawyers and accountants are expensive.

    C.My accounting for the label would have to be declared differently on all my company registration forms regardless of EU rules which adds more cost.

    D.If I chose to go global my costs from the distributor or aggregator go up,some charge per territory added.
    Remember beatport deals mostly with middle men who get your music up on beatport.
    There is large charge for this.
    Lets not forget distributors expect you to sell a minimum amount of records otherwise whats the point in investing in a label that that doesn’t make any money to pay back all the costs.
    They don’t care,all the want is their money,remember its a business,or they drop you.
    Having a debt collector on your door is no fun,especially with a recession on.

    E. Lets not forget currency conversion.No matter what prices beatport set in each country I would still have to translate those into my own currency for my business .
    I would then have to ask myself how competitive would it be to have my artists at £1.12 in the uk but then have it at 2-3 euros in Europe.
    Whatever i decide,I will be trying to make sure I can make some money to pay the bills for the label so it can survive to put more music out.

    F.If I didn’t territory restrict, i would then need to rehire the same lawyer and accountant to untangle my business position in the uk from europe or anywhere else.
    =More cost

    G.There are Uk import and export costs to pay when distributing internationally even digitally and your accountant would have to pick his way through the financial minefield to make sure you were complying with laws of running a business in the uk.

    H.As you can see I haven’t even got to the fun stuff like making music or having a good time.
    Running a label comes with responsibility.
    Tax has to be paid and if you cant afford an accountant because your not selling enough records then ,guess who is going to be up all night getting the accounts ready for the tax man,yes thats right YOU.
    If I don’t territory restrict I will be up all night for months trying to sort out the accounts and remember my sales internationally on beatport might still be low but I now have to do double the work.

    Conclusion
    It would be nice to run a label for fun,but there are always costs to pay.
    Obviously if you don’t look after the day to day business then you go bankrupt or you have to close the company.
    My costs so far are over £6,000 pounds or 6,148 euros and thank god my Bank is able to give me a new loan and overdraft.
    I will survive but when I have bills to pay the last thing i am thinking about is territory restriction.

    People who territory restrict don’t sit in big offices making decisions for fun.
    Most people have families and are trying to run a small company from home.

    If you disagree with me then that’s cool,but at least have the balls to set up a company and try it for yourself.you’ll soon whether it’s for you or not.

    From MrHumble

    • Smithers

      Gotcha. Just a simple footnote here: Dont come after me with a lawsuit when I download your music for free, when you’re unwilling to sell it to me in the first place. That’s what consumers are pissed off about. If there is no supply for the demand, then people will find a way, ie P2P. Cheers

    • Smithers

      Gotcha. Just a simple footnote here: Dont come after me with a lawsuit when I download your music for free, when you’re unwilling to sell it to me in the first place. That’s what consumers are pissed off about. If there is no supply for the demand, then people will find a way, ie P2P. Cheers

  • 2fast4youbr

    territory restrictions sucks ! nice article !

    Just a RIMENDER ! any proxy is able to get the information that you are transmitting, so if you type your passw or your credit card number, the proxy can see all this information and can store it, in special de FREE ones, because them are just a good place to steal all passw of anybody that use it , and the bad guy the only thing he needs to do it, is open and an proxy for someone like us to use it !

    Beware of it, change you passw and dont use any credit card number to buy the tracks ….

    cheers

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="25614"]Wow, it worked! Although I had to activate FoxyProxy AFTER Beatport had loaded, because otherwise it wouldn’t even connect to the site.[/quote]

    What did you do? Let beatport load on the your normal connection then switched proxies, then reloaded? Can you give a step by step. I finally found a working Spain proxy but takes for ever for beatport to load.

  • http://twitter.com/captarschkarte Psychofrakulator

    Wow, it worked! Although I had to activate FoxyProxy AFTER Beatport had loaded, because otherwise it wouldn’t even connect to the site.

  • http://twitter.com/dodotek Felipe Dornelas

    Bug: images aren’t displayed. You should have accidentally deleted them.

  • cris cables

    this is all bs ;this is human expression were allowing to be censored,in order for for a dealer to get his cut!

  • Peter

    I am using a macbook, and it is quite hard to do this way… And I don’t understand too much, so after completing this step, I could download all songs at Beatport I like without money… free !!!

  • RCUS

    Thanks Ean this is awesome!

    Finally got around to trying this. Works great so far. I even set it up on my pc at work here, and so far no problems (including IT coming down hard on me).

    So how would you decipher between restricted tracks that are restricted because they are only available on releases vs. territory restricted tracks? Is there any way to tell off the bat on beatport? I just don’t want to spend too much time looking for the right country for the released i can’t get normally.

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    [quote comment="19352"]
    Anybody who says that they are punishing the consumer by territory restrictions has never been in the position of trying to make money from selling music.[/quote]

    I Think we need to get a little more info than that Mr. Label Person, while I completely respect the business model I am not completely clear on the pro argument from the point of promotion. Perhaps we can interview a few labels on the topic to shed more light.

    [quote comment="19370"][quote comment="19352"]What I’m really doing is allowing each territory to put in maximum effort with the advantages of multiple promotion campaigns.

    The fact that you know of my track and want to buy it even tho outside the territory is unfortunate, but in this day of virtual borders, maybe you can ask one of your buddies in the said territory to buy it for you, file share and then you pay him.

    Anybody who says that they are punishing the consumer by territory restrictions has never been in the position of trying to make money from selling music.
    [/quote]

    The fact that we know of your track and want to buy it is NOT “unfortunate,” it’s THE WHOLE OBJECT OF PUTTING A MUSIC STORE ON THE %&^** INTERNET.
    [/quote]

    We understand your pumped up about the issue but I have to ask everyone to not turn this blog into a you tube comment thread with endless expletives.

    Thanks for the good dialogue though.

  • http://feralchimp.com/blog feralchimp

    [quote comment="19352"]What I’m really doing is allowing each territory to put in maximum effort with the advantages of multiple promotion campaigns.

    The fact that you know of my track and want to buy it even tho outside the territory is unfortunate, but in this day of virtual borders, maybe you can ask one of your buddies in the said territory to buy it for you, file share and then you pay him.

    Anybody who says that they are punishing the consumer by territory restrictions has never been in the position of trying to make money from selling music.[/quote]

    You’re not doing any local promotion when the track is on Beatport. The track is on the worldwide internet, and its presence there is doing your job for you.

    The fact that we know of your track and want to buy it is NOT “unfortunate,” it’s THE WHOLE OBJECT OF PUTTING A MUSIC STORE ON THE %!&** INTERNET.

    The “get someone you know overseas to buy it” suggestion is idiotic. It’s basically saying “get someone to access the UK version of the internet, then send the file over the inter-internet to the US internet.” It’s all the same goddamned internet, and this reverse-DNS BS is a total hack designed to get you to shup up long enough for Beatport to make you money despite yourself.

  • Label Person

    Addressed to Consumer & Artist: As a product owner/distributor, I should have maximum flexablity to sell how and well I see fit. Of course all labels and artist wish to maximize profits and sales and territory restrictions make sense. What I’m really doing is allowing each territory to put in maximum effort with the advantages of multiple promotion campaigns.
    The fact that you know of my track and want to buy it even tho outside the territory is unfortunate, but in this day of virtual borders, maybe you can ask one of your buddies in the said territory to buy it for you, file share and then you pay him.

    Anybody who says that they are punishing the consumer by territory restrictions has never been in the position of trying to make money from selling music.

  • Territory Dj

    Thanks for the tutorial on this. I can’t believe there are such restrictions for digital downloads, especially when the customer is actually looking to pay money for it! This indeed will turn people to alternative methods in getting the tunes they want which is a real shame.

    It kind of contradicts what a digital download and the internet is supposed to be about. Being able to download a track online is supposed to be easier and more convenient for everyone and it’s actually reducing the PR work for labels/artists etc. that they had to do to promote a single/album in the vinyl and cd days. So why even bother releasing something to a select audience? Surely this will cost the label more time, effort and money promoting a track a multiple of times rather than just the once? It’s nonsense in my opinion and only adds to illegal downloading…

    On a more technical note… I’ve managed to use this proxy foxy to get a couple of tracks i’ve been after for a while but i’m struggling getting one particular track. It is on a german label and i’ve used a german proxy to enter the site but there is still restrictions on this track. I’ve also tried other country proxy’s but still no joy. Is it possible that the label also has restrictions of tracks so that only named people can download them? (i.e. big name djs/producers). The annoying thing about this is that i can get the track on itunes but refuse to pay money for a compressed file, i’d rather get the wav version.

    Any ideas???

    Cheers

  • Consumer & Artis

    Sorry "Label Person" but that was a really weak justification for territory restrictions. No one has a problem if the licenses are divided up between different labels as long as the consumer has at least some option to buy the track in their respective territory. But to refuse to accept money from all other territories outside of of the UK, mainland Europe, and the US(the countries you listed in your scenario) is just ridiculous! I challenge you to give one realistic scenario where it would be MORE profitable for the label and the artist to give the consumer from a certain territory NO legal option to buy the track.

    I read an article somewhere that said the average DJ/EDM consumer is actually MORE likely to buy a track instead of illegally downloading it than the average music consumer in general!

    I wonder if people really realize how much more potential money there's to be made producing EDM if you just…(now here's a radical revolutionary business concept………… ready?) LET YOUR CUSTOMERS PAY YOU FOR YOUR PRODUCT!!!

    Its just amazing how so many labels spit in the face of a huge percentage of their customer base and then in the same breath complain about illegal downloads!!!

    I can't think of any other industry that follows the business model of punishing the customer for having the audacity of trying to give you money for your product!!!

  • Label Person

    While territory restrictions are painful to many buyers, they are actually good news for both Artists and Labels. The digital distributors recognize the practice and must accommodate it.

    Lets say you are an artist in the US with a song creating a bigg buzz in Europe. You don't wish to do the selling yourself. Label A in the UK says, Hey I'll be able to sell your song in Europe, I'm well set up here. Fine, you say, but then label B from Germany says, wait, we love your song too, we are better set up in Europe to sell your track, we have a big network and strong promotional possibilities on the mainland.

    Great you say. I'll let label A sell my track in the UK, and label B in Europe. You get (hopefully) two advances for your track (rather then one) and two unique promotion campaigns.

    Then when your track does well in Europe, a US label approaches you to the rights in the US. Bonus #3!

    In reality of course, few releases see such action, but even in the digital age, there is good reason to occasionally enforce territory restrictions for those people who pay for music.

    Although I used the example of an artist here, it could be the label who also decides to market and release a single on this basis.

    Best to you all.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment=""]this is one god damn good article, very useful, thank you!![/quote]

    [quote comment="17479"][quote comment=""]Beatport should remove those territory restricted!!! I will keep on blog those who are territory restricted until they remove that silly restriction![/quote]

    @Dirty_Licious: I don't think you understand. It's not Beatport who are to blame. It's the labels. They will only allow their music to be sold if Beatport do so on their terms. Beatport have little choice but to try and help the music labels move forward and embrace the internet in the future.

    We all know that piracy is rife on the internet which hurts artists as much as it hurts the (awful) music industry, so hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later.[/quote]

  • http://www.doggydog.net VoOFA

    this is one god damn good article, very useful, thank you!!

  • http://www.djlwq.com DJ LWQ

    [quote comment=""]If you’re using the music to generate income for yourself, then that should be trickling up the chain. If it’s good enough for YOU to make money off of, why isn’t it good enough to pay for?[/quote]

    In deed :-) I ment that this bypass can be violating our Czech "super" laws about protecting authors. I am producer also, so I very understand "where the money appears" …

    Well, sorry for misunderstanding … :-)

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    [quote comment=""]First of all, just because Beatport says something in their terms and conditions doesn’t make it law.[/quote]

    Yep, I think "DJ LWQ"'s choice of the word "legal" wasn't quite what he meant :) It's certainly not against the law to violate Beatport's T&Cs but they would be in their rights to close your account if they found out, but I imagine that's unlikely to happen.

    [quote comment=""]If you’re using the music to generate income for yourself, then that should be trickling up the chain. If it’s good enough for YOU to make money off of, why isn’t it good enough to pay for?[/quote]

    Here! Here! My sentiments exactly.

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    [quote comment=""]Fine solution, BUT – it is violating BEatPort rules and so it is ilegal … :-([/quote]

    So what?

    First of all, just because Beatport says something in their terms and conditions doesn't make it law. And second, how is Beatport and the artist served better? Are they better served by having someone bypass a territory restriction but BUYING the track, or by pushing someone off to a blog page to get it for free?

    Let me address something else that I see thrown around alot in these discussions. The whole "the artist doesn't need my money" argument. Anytime I see someone say this, I always see it coming from someone who hasn't ever been an artist themself.

    Maybe it's a little more true if you're talking about someone big in the mainstream music scene, but there are very few people in EDM that fit that bill. Most of the music you buy now is middle or low income guys that have a minimum of gear and are struggling to make ends meet. I know lots of these artists, and they're normal people like most of us. They produce in their bedrooms, and work day jobs. For every Paul Oakenfold, there's thousands of others who just want to get their music heard and move some asses on a dance floor. I know headliners that are VERY big names in EDM right now that live in condos and end up putting most of what they make back into their music.

    If your purpose is just to listen to the music, that's one thing. I personally draw the line at making money from someone else's art. If you're using the music so generate income for yourself, then that should be trickling up the chain. If it's good enough for YOU to make money off of, why isn't it good enough to pay for?

  • http://www.djlwq.com DJ LWQ

    Fine solution, BUT – it is violating BEatPort rules and so it is ilegal … :-(

  • http://myspace.com/deepstereodj deepstereo

    When I ran across the same problem several times I bought the same tracks off junodownload with no restrictions!

  • http://www.djalexsanchez.com Alex Sanchez

    Or you could just go to another shop other than beatport. I hate that territory restriction but I've noticed that different shops have different restrictions, so a work-around is to try to buy it in another shop like junodownload.com, djdownloads.com, trackitdown.com, traxsource.com, etc…

  • npherno

    [quote comment=""]An alternative way is to use a VPN-service instead of a proxy. Should be a bit more practical than a proxy (and more secure?) however it will come at a cost.[/quote]

    Ultrasurf may work in this scenario as well.

  • Erik

    An alternative way is to use a VPN-service instead of a proxy. Should be a bit more practical than a proxy (and more secure?) however it will come at a cost.

  • artak

    hi guys ! great article! im living in China now , and 2 weeks ago goverment was blocked youtube , i try to hide my id , but its doesnt work ! pls help me , thanks

  • DJ XISIX

    Wow I didnt realise that proxy servers worked for Beatport restrictions! I thought they were just good for Facebook at work! This is really cool for me as I live in South Africa and there are just too many teritory restrictions, it looks like 90% of Ferry Corsten tracks are blocked for me. Ferry Corsten!!! Are you telling me that such a big international artist is restricted so much? Jeez!

    An alternative that I've found in the past though, before going through so much proxy schlep, is that a nice google search for a hard-to-get song does some real wonders. If I cant get a track legally from Beatport, then I just check other pay sites like JunoDownload or DJDownload. They might not be as easy or fast as Beatport but hey if I can still buy my track then I'm happy at the end of the day.

  • Sash

    Thank man, this worked perfectly!!!

  • npherno

    Proxies in this case seems ok. Watch what you are doing, and make sure you DISABLE IT after the first logon. Beatport is HTTPS for the whole session so you should be safe. Watch out for certificate errors or warnings when you have DISABLED the proxy. SSL CAN be subject to a man in the middle attack, but the bad guy will throw you an untrusted (bogus) certificate, and complete the connection to the upstream server. If that is the case you should see the certificate doesn't match beatport.com.

  • Static

    Finally!!! So glad to have a way around these territory restrictions. Time to go buy some tracks!

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    [quote comment=""]I think for all the money I give Beatport etc. If they want to be stupid enough to territorily restrict a track here and there, I'll grab the damn torrent.[/quote]

    @Rick: clearly you aren't reading the comments to this article so you aren't making an informed commment yourself. Beatport is not to blame for territory restrictions – the labels are. Beatport opperate within the law so they have to conform to the legal requirements of the music industry or they won't be allowed to distribute the music. If they ignore this they will just be another illegal music site. In which case this whole discussion becomes a moot point.

  • Rick

    I think for all the money I give Beatport etc. If they want to be stupid enough to territorily restrict a track here and there, I'll grab the damn torrent.

  • Abdel

    Wha Big Al, you are right! I disregard the HTTPS protocol… So I think, the proxy variant is an good possibility. I have to think about it ;)

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    @Abdel: You are right that proxies are a major security risk! But Beatport is served via HTTPS ("secure" HTTP) which as far as I understand it encrypts the traffic between browser and host server. So are you saying that the proxy server (or any server inbetween the client and server) read that HTTPS data unencypted?

    I thought that on HTTPS any data you send cannot be read by any server the traffic goes through on it's way to its destination. Am I wrong?

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    @cmay119: It's annoying isn't it?!

    People please, don't make the mistake of blaming Beatport for this situation. I hear they aren't exactly angels in all of this (they apparently take quite a hefty percentage of any sale on they're site much to many small independant labels' detriment) BUT territory restriction is one issue that is out of their hands.

    Labels are the problem here. I am sure Beatport don't care which Labels they pay for the music as long as they sell more of it, and Territory Restrictions just make it more complex and more difficult for Beatport to make money – so rest assured Beatport are working to make this an easier process.

    Even if it's just easier for them it will hopefully translate to be easier for us too.

  • Abdel

    Well good idea but I will never use a proxy for buying tracks… for the proxy owner It is very easy to sniff all your passwords…. (Paypal, Beatport Login, Email etc…) I am working for an security company and we tried to sniff privacy data trough a proxy…. It worked… Think about it! An alternative is an own Root-server….

  • cmay119

    I'm pretty sure the Territory Restrictions are setup when 2 or more labels have rights to a particular release. What's unfortunate is that these labels don't work together to put out the release at the same time. So some people are able to buy the track, and then others are left waiting until another label comes along to release the track in your region. An example of this was: 'Tom Middleton – Lifetracks' album. It first was released on 'The Big Chill Recordings' on September 30, 2007. Under that label the album was Territory restricted to the US, I had to wait until November 13th, 2007 before it was released again on 'Six Degrees' before I could legally buy it. This time frame difference wasn't too horrible, there have been times where I've waited up to a year before another label finally pushed out a legal release for my region.

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    [quote comment=""]Beatport should remove those territory restricted!!! I will keep on blog those who are territory restricted until they remove that silly restriction![/quote]

    @Dirty_Licious: I don’t think you understand. It’s not Beatport who are to blame. It’s the labels. They will only allow their music to be sold if Beatport do so on their terms. Beatport have little choice but to try and help the music labels move forward and embrace the internet in the future.

    We all know that piracy is rife on the internet which hurts artists as much as it hurts the (awful) music industry, so hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later.

  • http://myspace.com/djdirtylicious Dirty_Licious

    Beatport should remove those territory restricted!!! I will keep on blog those who are territory restricted until they remove that silly restriction!

  • Whatever

    Oh give me a break! If you have to go through all that trouble just to legally buy a track that's nuts! Don't bother! And don't give me any of that "support the artist" nonsense either; you're depriving them of mere pennies they couldn't have gotten from you anyway since the label or distributor restricted the territory in which their music could be sold. You want to support the music? Pay to see your favourite acts play live. Buying music on Beatport using this method is just MADNESS…

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    Pay for DJ mixes? I think the focus of the article is primarily about buying single songs that happen to be territory restricted. I'm not sure anyone is talking about paying for DJ mixes.

  • http://www.djnvidia.info/ Dj Nvidia

    Yea, I’m sorry, but I just don’t feel like I should have to pay for Dj Mixes. No offense to other serious, professional Djs out there, but you all just play the music other people make. There are exceptions who make their own music of course (and I mean more than just making mashups, like beats and stuff), but then I wouldn’t consider them just Djs, but rather producers or contributing artists as well as Djs.

    Yes we mix well, throw in samples and effects, but its still someone else hardwork we are playing. Mixes should be a form of advertisement. We Djs make our bread and butter on live performances, and it shouldn’t be any other way. So we should release our mixes on our sites, and if the people enjoy them that should make them want to seek us out and come to our performances.

    So I am sorry, but I will never pay for Dj mixes… I don’t think it right to the artist who made the original track.

  • http://deeperfocus.com Shimz

    Great freakin article, saved my life :]

  • http://livewire.name Danny Livewire

    Nyce Article!!! Very Helpful!

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment=""][quote comment=""]We all know that the music industry as a whole has fought the change that is “the internet” tootah and nail.[/quote]

    Man, I wish I could re-edit my spelling mistakes!

    …has fought the change that is the “the internet” tooth and nail…”

    Maybe that makes a little more sense now :S[/quote]

    This is from Beatports customer support section giving a brief explanation on the Territory Restriction.

    http://beatport.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/beatport.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=22&p_created=1179946387&p_sid=*1t2wevj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=0&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04NiZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=cF91c2VyaWQ9amFzb25qcGV0ZXJzJnBfcGFzc3dkPW1hYXprSyY2IVomcF9lbWFpbC5hZGRyPWphc29uanBldGVyc0Bob3RtYWlsLmNvbSZwX25hbWUuZmlyc3Q9SmFzb24mcF9uYW1lLmxhc3Q9UGV0ZXJzJnBfbGlfcGFzc3dkPW1hYXprSyY2IVo*&p_topview=1

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    [quote comment=""]We all know that the music industry as a whole has fought the change that is “the internet” tootah and nail.[/quote]

    Man, I wish I could re-edit my spelling mistakes!

    …has fought the change that is the “the internet” tooth and nail…”

    Maybe that makes a little more sense now :S

  • http://www.jinja-ninja.co.uk Big Al

    [quote comment=""]We know there must be some good reason to have them though- so Beatport, if your out there, could you fill us in and perhaps help everyone understand this problem from your side? [/quote]

    I’ve been using Beatport for years and experienced the pain of Territory Restrictions early on in my digital music experiences. The reason Beatport state for this, and I have no reason to not believe it, is that the labels themselves require this restriction as part of their contract with Beatport. A label is a company that has paid for the rights to distribute an artist’s music to a particular region (whether that is a country or a continent, it depends).

    The internet, being a great big level playing field for the entire world, has therefore completely sidestepped the regional labels – and they don’t like that! So at the first opportunity the labels seem to have reworked their contracts to force Beatport to sell the music in a way that allows the labels to survive and continue trading in much the same way as they did before the internet. We all know that the music industry as a whole has fought the change that is “the internet” tootah and nail. Only now are there small signs of it engaging the internet – albiet still fighting for every penny of profit.

    Another example of the labels fight is the fairly recent changes to Beatport’s pricing structure. Initially Beatport sold all its music in US dollars. I am from the UK and loved the fact I could “import” my music so cheaply. Beatport effectively undercut all UK digital music sales without even trying because the UK pound was so strong at the time (this was a few years ago) making dollar purchases relatively cheap. So you can imagine how disappointed I was when Beatport introduced localised currency pricing which meant instead of paying $2 for a track I was asked to pay £2 – effectively doubling the price overnight. I could not understand how this was in any way fair. I have since been told that the labels demanded this change (so the UK labels weren’t being undercut) and also there is tax to pay on music in the UK (called VAT) which has to be added. Still, it was good while it lasted.

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    The problem with using Explorer is that it’s a blanket proxy. The biggest issue I see people running into when following my guides are that they don’t know if everything is proceeding properly because of the slow speed. If you are using a blanket proxy and have only one browser on your computer, it’s hard to tell whats going on with your connection.

    If you have 2 browsers, or are selectively applying the proxy rules, then you’re free to troubleshoot, multitask, search for new proxies, etc.

  • Vinicius Hoffmann [B

    And we don't know for sure that beatport store that type of info in the cookies, they could check the IP-Country everytime you request a new page… Deppends how the developers had implemented the code…

  • Vinicius Hoffmann [B

    [quote comment="17466"]Is there no way to make a fake cookie for your computer information that would tell beatport that you are from somewhere else?[/quote]

    I don't think so, the cookie information should be encrypted and unreadable to us…

  • mpetersen3

    Is there no way to make a fake cookie for your computer information that would tell beatport that you are from somewhere else?

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    [quote comment=""]I think you will find the territory restrictions have nothing to do with beatport, they will be set by the record label. Probably because there is a sample used that can’t be cleared in the US (common issue).[/quote]

    Every justification I've ever heard for territory restrictions comes from the music industry's desire for more money, or their attempt to impose an antiquated business model on the online distribution of music (or both). Region coding on DVDs pisses me off just as much as territory restrictions do, because their reasoning is just as stupid.

    I'm not suggesting that everyone should be wagging their fingers at Beatport for this. But I think they could start wielding their influence a little more. More attention needs to be placed on these restrictions, and Beatport is the perfect entity to do it. I understand that it's a fine line between pissing off the labels that service you, and pissing off your customers. But Beatport is a game changing entity in dance music – I just wish they would realize it. Maybe it would be something as radical as creating their own label. Or as simple as facilitating relationships between labels to encourage wider distribution of music for their customers.

    In all cases, users need to know what's going on. If progress is being made publicly, users might wait before resorting to RapidShare.

  • Vinicius Hoffmann [Brazil]

    [quote comment=""]How it’s done in explorer? I don’t use Firefox[/quote]
    You can go trough:
    Tools > Options > Connectivity > Lan Configuration > Proxy Servers (at botton) mark the checkbox and put the IP and the port. The next webpage that you load will be trough the proxy.

    Clear cookies at Options start screen if you can open the google for that language but you are have any problem at the beatport (they can store your IP-country into the cookies).

    Good Luck!

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    [quote comment=""]How it’s done in explorer? I don’t use Firefox[/quote]

    Use Firefox. Explorer is nowhere near as friendly for this kind of thing.

  • http://www.nem0nic.com nem0nic

    About security. It’s is absolutely a concern anytime you’re going through a proxy. But if you take some basic precautions that are a good idea for any online transaction, you’ll be fine.

    First, don’t use your “normal” credit card for online transactions. In my case, I applied for a separate checking account (free) through my bank, and got a card on that. When I log into my bank’s website, both accounts show up under my name. I transfer funds covering the online purchase into that account before I buy something (I keep $20 in there all the time just in case). This isolates the damage that is possible, and has worked very well for me. I can even transfer funds using my Blackberry. Also, DO NOT link your 2 accounts using overdraft protection or you’ve negated the benefits.

    Second, the only data you’re transferring through the proxy is the user name and password for Beatport, and POSSIBLY the 3 digit confirmation number for the linked CC. I say possibly because in the method above we’re just proxying the data with Beatport, NOT the payment processing service. Even assuming a worst case scenario and assuming that a hacker set up a honeypot and is packet sniffing your session, he would still need to decrypt the SSL session you have going. And if he was successful, all that work would still only get him access to your Beatport account. Because your CC is stored on their end, you aren’t sending your whole number through, and logging into your account only reveals the last 4 digits of the card – the same 4 digits on almost every paper receipt you get. So doing all that work would allow him to buy music (that he can already get for free somewhere else).

    So while using a proxy is certainly exploitable, in this case I personally think it’s pretty low risk. Do what I mentioned above, use good password policy, and alternate login creds on the websites you share information with, and you’ll be fine.

  • Pepehouse

    How it’s done in explorer? I don’t use Firefox

  • Ron Burgundy

    Anyone done this on a Mac?.. So much hassle when you can't find the track or get hold of it because of restrictions..

  • http://www.myspace.com/hdrobot HD Robot

    WOOOOWWW!!! honestly FUCK THAT SHIT!!! no offense ean i get where ur going but im not going through all this bullshit just to download the track, there is a magical thing called google on the start up of my firefox for this sort of trouble solving oh by the way, it'd be very interesting to make a post on how the WEB 3.0 will benefit the djing community

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    [quote comment=""]aren't you worried about the security of the proxy?

    on publicly available proxies i would be worried about my paypal or credit card information being logged while buying the tracks.[/quote]

    This seems like a genuine concern to me as well.

    [quote comment="17450"]I think you will find the territory restrictions have nothing to do with beatport, they will be set by the record label. Probably because there is a sample used that can't be cleared in the US (common issue).[/quote]

    I agree that they are certainly set by the label as beatport does not have any incentive (that we are aware of) to not sell something. However why these limitations exist is the question. The licensing issue is one good point- perhaps there are others?

  • Jinx

    aren't you worried about the security of the proxy? i once used a technique like that (proxy server in the us because of the euro to dollar exchange where you could save 1/3 of the money) but i knew the owner and paid 1€ per month.

    on publicly available proxies i would be worried about my paypal or credit card information being logged while buying the tracks.

  • Anthony More

    Great article, ran into the Territory Restrictions several times.

  • KR

    Does this raise any security issues? Are these proxy servers secure enough to have your credit card or paypal account information running through them? This is the only issue I could see with this method.

  • Zac

    I think you will find the territory restrictions have nothing to do with beatport, they will be set by the record label. Probably because there is a sample used that can't be cleared in the US (common issue).

    So using a proxy bypass is still breaking some kind of copyright law, and someone down the line, in theory is still missing out on royalties.

  • midifidler

    great article Nemonic, territory restrictions have pissed me of for a while now and I'd always wondered if a proxy would get around it.

    Now to go find some of those tunes I've been missing out on!

  • kilbot

    great article and very useful info! i know i've experienced the wrong territory thing a few times >_<