Serato SL3

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Rane has announced the brand new Serato Scratch Live 3 package, a long awaited update to the original SL 1 audio interface that addresses some of its common problems. Along with a new axillary input and output (which replaces a mic input) the new SL3 boasts 24 bit converters and high speed 2.0 USB.

read on for all the details.

The new SL3 hardware has a number of improvements including:

  • USB 2.0 high speed audio interface.
  • Improved dynamic range (104 dB).
  • Improved audio performance (24-bit converters).
  • Higher output improves ability to easily match levels of various source types.
  • Galvanic isolation prevents computer noise from interfering with audio path.
  • Aux Input for Live Mix Recording or LiveFeed.
  • Aux Output allows use of the Sample Player as a Virtual Deck.
  • Aux Output opens the door for future expansion and creative con?gurations for DJs and electronic musicians.
  • High-grade phono preamps upgrade the performance of most mixers.
  • Software switchable Direct Thru connections for simplicity.
  • Independent Line / Phono-level selection for each input for greater ?exibility.
  • Includes international power supply to insure optimum performance and easy transfer between DJs.
  • Soft carry case included.

It was mentioned in a previous post that Guitar Center already has these boxes in stock so they should be shipping very soon. No word on price yet but It should be about the same as the current SL1 package, +/- $500. What about those Aux inputs? how are they planned to be used? Well, here are a few potential examples:

  • recording the master output of the mixer back into the computer.
  • Recording audio sources and sampling inside serato
  • Routing the mysterious third deck which is supposed to show up sometime soon out to a mixer


  • Urbanlife

    A very good look for Serato.

  • cyberninja

    [quote comment=""]A very good look for Serato.[/quote]

    is not 1st april joke?

  • NZ

    The Best 1 april Joke)

  • http://www.eangolden.com Ean Golden

    [quote comment=""]The Best 1 april Joke)[/quote]

    certainly not a joke- but you tube has a great joke going on right now. its rather funny.

  • NZ

    well, anyway it sucks vs NI A8DJ

    Serato should release it 3 years ago.

    What do they think of? No mic input, cant use it as a soundcard for other audio soft.

    Serato, r u kiddin? Its 2009.

    "Why did you remove the mic input from the SL 3?

    Making the SL 3 compact and adding Auxiliary channels was a high priority during the design of the unit. We hope the versatility you gain from these features makes up for the absence of the mic input."

    "Why can't I use the SL 3 with other programs as an ASIO or CoreAudio/Composite device?

    Scratch Live and the SL 3 use a proprietary driver that has many performance and stability advantages over a CoreAudio or ASIO solution. We do however understand that a more open driver has advantages as well. CoreAudio Drivers are currently in development and will be implemented in a future firmware upgrade for the SL 3."

  • http://www.myspace.com/tooltablist Mudo

    Search there are eastereggs…

  • Kornais Francois

    for me it is really nothing special..

    It is 2009, still dated style.

    NI Audio 8 kills it and cheaper.

  • http://www.myspace.com/emdeeema eMDeeeMA

    SO where is this partnership with Ableton Live coming in?

    SSL3 is hardly a revolutionary breakthrough worth deeming as a "Big News" as stated before.

  • http://blancodisco.com benny blanco®

    not really a fan of inputs/outputs in both sides of the device. should be all together on one side, sans headphone jack. poor design on that end..

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Imfromthafutur imfromthafutur

    "SSL3 is hardly a revolutionary breakthrough worth deeming as a “Big News” as stated before."

    I think this is the big news, right..

    "Aux Output opens the door for future expansion and creative con?gurations for DJs and electronic musicians."

  • http://www.myspace.com/djkloseline KLOSELINE

    Jst back from MusikMesse, had the SL3 in my fingers, feels very good, but its also lightweight. Much lighter than the Audio8 DJ.

    Some things about the missing microphone. you have an extra input channel, thsi means you can run your mic through the mixer into the the sl1 via rca. However i never really got the point of having a Mic in in these kind of DVS only soundcards. Come on if you want to get serious youre not going to use the SL1 as you production interface…. or am I missing somethign here. Third channel out is awesome and necessary for the sampler etc.

  • n:deuce

    as an ssl user, i am very hyped about this. i think it is a good move, especially if rane/serato continues to support the sl1, possibly with a price drop.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="17307"]Jst back from MusikMesse, had the SL3 in my fingers, feels very good, but its also lightweight. Much lighter than the Audio8 DJ.

    Some things about the missing microphone. you have an extra input channel, thsi means you can run your mic through the mixer into the the sl1 via rca. However i never really got the point of having a Mic in in these kind of DVS only soundcards. Come on if you want to get serious youre not going to use the SL1 as you production interface…. or am I missing somethign here. Third channel out is awesome and necessary for the sampler etc.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]as an ssl user, i am very hyped about this. i think it is a good move, especially if rane/serato continues to support the sl1, possibly with a price drop.[/quote]

    I think the mic is more for doing drops, talking, announcements, etc., than for serious production work. It would be handy for people who have mixers without microphone jacks.

  • DvlsAdvct

    Above me is.

  • http://www.myspace.com/tooltablist Mudo

    [quote comment=""]Above me is.[/quote]

    Yesterday I posted…

    "They will release the new “Serato Ableton Live Handshake” sold inside Ableton 8 (and Serato recieving some many kind of royaltie) preparing the floor for Serato 2 (with new interface and TTM57SL firmware upgrade)

    With the first Scratch Live and ITCH will control some features of Live (like APC40) and when MaxforLive will be released (later than Serato 2 I think) you will have the same options as Traktor but a little better.

    Serato 2 with Sl-1 = 2 decks, handshake and (maybe) vst.

    Serato 2 with usb 2 or TTM57SL = 4 decks, handshake and full video implement.

    All of them handshaking Live as a Live Producing Tool (Pure Tooltablism)

    or

    Vaporware maybe…

    The tools for develop all are out there…
    http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/05/01/digital-…

    Enjoy!"

    Today Rane releases SL-3 and remark "that's not a upgrade for SL-1, it's a companion"

    mmmm…

    Wait for Ableton

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment=""]Above me is.[/quote]

    [quote comment="17310"][quote comment="17307"]Jst back from MusikMesse, had the SL3 in my fingers, feels very good, but its also lightweight. Much lighter than the Audio8 DJ.

    Some things about the missing microphone. you have an extra input channel, thsi means you can run your mic through the mixer into the the sl1 via rca. However i never really got the point of having a Mic in in these kind of DVS only soundcards. Come on if you want to get serious youre not going to use the SL1 as you production interface…. or am I missing somethign here. Third channel out is awesome and necessary for the sampler etc.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]as an ssl user, i am very hyped about this. i think it is a good move, especially if rane/serato continues to support the sl1, possibly with a price drop.[/quote]

    I think the mic is more for doing drops, talking, announcements, etc., than for serious production work. It would be handy for people who have mixers without microphone jacks.[/quote]

    If you wanted to make an announcement, wouldn't you just use a mixer with a mic in??

  • DvlsAdvct

    [quote]

    If you wanted to make an announcement, wouldn't you just use a mixer with a mic in??[/quote]

    Well, if your DJ mixer doesn't have a mic input that would be kinda hard.

  • http://www.djnvidia.info/ Dj Nvidia

    I am a little lost… so its A/C powered, and not phantom powered (USB powered). That sounds like a step back.

    That means I have one more thing to carry and one more thing to plug in. My power switch is already packed as it is, and those A/C power adapter usually have big bulky plug-ends. And they took away the mic input? That doesn't seem like progress either.

    I hate it when companies take away features. If its an improvement then, everything from the past should work, plus additional stuff for the future. I think thats the text-book definition of improvement.

    Maybe I don't see the potential, but I don't see this as some great big, earth-shattering announcement. I hope this wasn't their only big announcement.

    Very disappointed.

  • http://www.djrj805.com SiRocket

    [quote comment="17316"]I am a little lost… so its A/C powered, and not phantom powered (USB powered). That sounds like a step back.

    That means I have one more thing to carry and one more thing to plug in. My power switch is already packed as it is, and those A/C power adapter usually have big bulky plug-ends. And they took away the mic input? That doesn't seem like progress either.

    I hate it when companies take away features. If its an improvement then, everything from the past should work, plus additional stuff for the future. I think thats the text-book definition of improvement.

    Maybe I don't see the potential, but I don't see this as some great big, earth-shattering announcement. I hope this wasn't their only big announcement.

    Very disappointed.[/quote]

    its bus powered still…. do your reading, and who cares about not having the mic in… if your mixer doesn't have one, then blame your mixer, not serato/rane.

    I would rather be able to have stereo l/r's on the box then a mic in. (hmmmm have an input for another deck or recording source to record your mixes?? or have a mic in…) you decide.

  • Darrel

    Any word on price ?

  • Anonymous

    [quote]

    Well, if your DJ mixer doesn't have a mic input that would be kinda hard.[/quote]

    What I meant is that, if using a mic is important, then surely you would go to the trouble of using a mixer that had a mic input with decent pre amps and gain/trim functions etc??

  • http://www.Dj-JesC.com JesC

    Sweet! I hope this drives the price down on the SL-1 so I can pick a used one on craigslist from someone that upgraded to the SL3. I really dont mind about the mic input, being that most mixers already have sometype of mic hook up be it XLR, or 1/4".

    I can see why dj are going to have mixed reviews, but lets wait until ean or someone else on the djtt site gets a hold of the unit.

  • http://www.mikecharles.net/blog/ Mike Charles

    A few years back Serato may have had the upper hand, but they seem to have fallen behind now. I wanted to DJ with an all midi + mixer setup and I didn't want to be locked into a specific controller [e.g. vci-300]… My solution, sell SSL and get Traktor Pro.

    Show me 4 decks + Midi Implementation then we'll talk.

  • NZ

    The price of SL3 is $700.

    Damn, my Korg Zero4 is $700. It reads NI timecode and works perfect with Traktor, 4 channel, 5 FX, midi, xlr mic. BTW, its the best dj hardware i ever had, and its always YOUR mixer when you work in unknown club, not some shitty Pio300 or smth. That what good "soundcard" is.

    Can you compare the features with SL3?)))))

  • Franco

    Just got mine 699 at GC! Its sick I'm going back to buy the video sl plug in.

  • Mr May

    This is a side step in the world of timecode control. At Best.

    Do people forget exactly how many audio interfaces are on the market with sufficient in/outs and capability to control timecode for any software if setup right???? Because its more than a handful. And not only do you get the timecode control over TSP or ITCH etc.. you get a meaty sound card.

    Decent Audio Interface with more everyday uses than the SL3 box=$300-500

    Timecode Vinyls = $15

    Timecode CD ISO's = Free

    Or

    the SL3 in/out box = $700

    I geuss if I ever fall, hit my head, and lose my cognitive ability I'd buy a SL3 Box.

  • Mr May

    [quote comment=""]This is a side step in the world of timecode control. At Best.

    Do people forget exactly how many audio interfaces are on the market with sufficient in/outs and capability to control timecode for any software if setup right???? Because its more than a handful. And not only do you get the timecode control over TSP or ITCH etc.. you get a meaty sound card.

    Decent Audio Interface with more everyday uses than the SL3 box=$300-500

    Timecode Vinyls = $15

    Timecode CD ISO's = Free

    Or

    the SL3 in/out box = $700

    I geuss if I ever fall, hit my head, and lose my cognitive ability I'd buy a SL3 Box.[/quote]

  • http://www.djnvidia.info/ Dj Nvidia

    [quote comment="17317"]

    its bus powered still…. do your reading, and who cares about not having the mic in… if your mixer doesn't have one, then blame your mixer, not serato/rane.

    I would rather be able to have stereo l/r's on the box then a mic in. (hmmmm have an input for another deck or recording source to record your mixes?? or have a mic in…) you decide.[/quote]

    Chill out man (or girl), this is an anonymous comment board, you don't win any prizes for the snidest comments. And Serato isn't gonna send you any bucks for trying to knock down my comment. You could have very easily just copied & paste the text from the post or inserted hyperlink for some other place that said it. (That's also why I made the comment in the form of a question…)

    And for people like me who just use a midi-controller and a sound card, we don't have a mixer. Our sound-card is our main output. All we get is a connection into the main receiver and usually that isn't even close to me.

    Additionally, for a $700 price tag it should have every possible input/put combo possible. So I will blame Serato/Rane for not having this simple input. And I decide that I would want to have a mic in. Any Dj Software worth its salt, has a build in recorder. And how many Decks could one Dj possible use? Traktor comes with 4.

    Like I said before, when improvements are made features are supposed to be added onto not taken away. Regardless of the product. I try not to get on the "latest & greatest" bandwagon. I take a product way its pros and cons and make and educated decision regardless of who makes it or how new it is.

    I wouldn't trade my M-Audio FastTrack Pro for this thing.

  • Anonymous

    Reading the specifications of this SL3 release, I just don't get it.

    Where is the killer-combo with Ableton Live??

    My TSP + Xone 4D Combo will eat this kittin for breakfast!

  • signaturex

    you could still use a mic preamp and route that through the auxillaries.. or two mic preamps. or a mic preamp and a dr. sample with lazer gun.

  • http://www.youtube.com/djcyberia Dj Cyberia

    I just got mine at Guitar Center yesterday for $699. Considering I just got my first DVS 8 days prior (SL-1) for $439 it was quite a difference, but well worth it. I feel as if the vinyl feel is more precise. Being a scratcher that's the most that I wanted. Maybe now they can come with better control vinyl for even tighter control. The recording in function is priceless, simplifies the process and does away with another open program. The adjusting of the phono input is pretty cool too. All I have to say is I've waited years to get a DVS and I figure I might as well get the best. Sometimes the best cost a little more, but you have to pay to play! All the people complaining about price point and comparing it to Traktor are forgetting the fact that NI has blood on it's hands and it's called Final Scratch. I just don't trust them. It's like letting a failed dictator that was overthrown, come back into office because he has a new "vision" and shiny new clothes. He's still the same ass behind a new facade. Just my opinion.

    P.S. I didn't have the chance to say how much I like your site and the music you make Ean, when I got to meet you at the Vestax office upstairs at NAMM. I was Chuck's guest for the show. Keep on informing and thanks for the arcade button idea. I have to try that myself. Any plans on making a arcade button controller to sell? Thanks.

  • mtvstinks

    ok this time I will not post anonymous. This has become such a heated debate that I suggest a digital showdown just like in Anchorman

    The best digital DJ square off for 12 individual and one team title!

    WORLD WIDE DIGITAL DJ BATTLE

    WWDDJB

    First event

    Mixx vs UltraMixer

    Second Event

    Mixvibes vs VirtualDJ

    Third Event

    Torq vs Deckadance

    Main Event

    TSP vs Serato

  • http://www.djnvidia.info/ Dj Nvidia

    LOL, I completely agree….that would be something else

  • DJ Asparagus

    great! it looks kool, but now you wont be able to serial connect your boxes for several dj's to play without having to turn things off or to play vinyl/cd in between.

  • Neurotique

    [quote comment=""]great! it looks kool, but now you wont be able to serial connect your boxes for several dj's to play without having to turn things off or to play vinyl/cd in between.[/quote]

    Actually, you could, using this switcher box from Magma. Cool little device, and really usefull with multiple DVS systems =)

  • Darrel

    I can't justify $700 for this thing . I guess I am sticking with Traktor after all .

  • Chris Clough

    [quote comment=""]I wouldn't trade my M-Audio FastTrack Pro for this thing.[/quote]

    I've got a fast track pro too, can it be used with the TSP or Serato software and time-code vinyls?

    Mind pointing me to some instructions on how?

  • courageous

    [quote comment=""]And for people like me who just use a midi-controller and a sound card, we don’t have a mixer. Our sound-card is our main output. All we get is a connection into the main receiver and usually that isn’t even close to me.

    Additionally, for a $700 price tag it should have every possible input/put combo possible. So I will blame Serato/Rane for not having this simple input. And I decide that I would want to have a mic in. Any Dj Software worth its salt, has a build in recorder. And how many Decks could one Dj possible use? Traktor comes with 4.

    Like I said before, when improvements are made features are supposed to be added onto not taken away. Regardless of the product. I try not to get on the “latest & greatest” bandwagon. I take a product way its pros and cons and make and educated decision regardless of who makes it or how new it is.

    I wouldn’t trade my M-Audio FastTrack Pro for this thing.[/quote]

    Then Serato is not for you.. it is a digital vinyl system so you need a mixer; in this sense it is different to Traktor. At least know what the product is before making comments on it!

  • http://myspace.com/cubicclub blueNan

    Serato is a good thing for me.

    Simple, stable, never crashed, precise sound via good electronics – no "sound coloring" as NI. No problems at all after 3 years of gigs and intensive club use.

    And, the guys absolutely gained my confidence with his support, attention and free upgrades via this website. I also trust Rane for this new venture, I feel that they worked hard for this to release a finished, stable and quality product, and that it will be a balanced, good sounding and safe thing.

    And i don't mind NI because in this 3 years, I have seen many crashes in the middle (or at the beginning) of a gig… and i could listen a yes, crisp, but "colored" sound from its interface, too much mid-bass range accentuation.

    I will upgrade to SL3 as soon as i sell my old SL1. I hope it is at least as satisfying as the first one, and i am sure that it will improve the quality of the sound of our club.

  • http://www.chrisrimby.com Chris

    [quote comment="17371"]Serato is a good thing for me.

    Simple, stable, never crashed, precise sound via good electronics – no "sound coloring" as NI. No problems at all after 3 years of gigs and intensive club use.

    And, the guys absolutely gained my confidence with his support, attention and free upgrades via this website. I also trust Rane for this new venture, I feel that they worked hard for this to release a finished, stable and quality product, and that it will be a balanced, good sounding and safe thing.

    And i don't mind NI because in this 3 years, I have seen many crashes in the middle (or at the beginning) of a gig… and i could listen a yes, crisp, but "colored" sound from its interface, too much mid-bass range accentuation.

    I will upgrade to SL3 as soon as i sell my old SL1. I hope it is at least as satisfying as the first one, and i am sure that it will improve the quality of the sound of our club.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]Serato is a good thing for me.

    Simple, stable, never crashed, precise sound via good electronics – no "sound coloring" as NI. No problems at all after 3 years of gigs and intensive club use.

    And, the guys absolutely gained my confidence with his support, attention and free upgrades via this website. I also trust Rane for this new venture, I feel that they worked hard for this to release a finished, stable and quality product, and that it will be a balanced, good sounding and safe thing.

    And i don't mind NI because in this 3 years, I have seen many crashes in the middle (or at the beginning) of a gig… and i could listen a yes, crisp, but "colored" sound from its interface, too much mid-bass range accentuation.

    I will upgrade to SL3 as soon as i sell my old SL1. I hope it is at least as satisfying as the first one, and i am sure that it will improve the quality of the sound of our club.[/quote]

    Well put. I'm getting the SL3 as well.

  • http://djmx.de/main/2009/04/rane-serato-sl3/ Rane Serato SL3 at djmx

    [...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...]

  • http://www.connectedgrooves.com/index/ Jared-F

    [quote comment=""][...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...][/quote]

    I got SL3 the day after it hit the shelves. Better sound quality, lower latency, can record without crappy ttm57. I'm happy I got it. The one thing that I always have to say that makes SL kill traktor is its stability. No questions its way more stable. Interface is far more friendly and I am always able to get the help I need.

    Thanks Rane/Serato!

    Can't wait for SL2 software!

    Jared-F

  • Dream Machine

    Been using serato SL1 for like 2 years. Indeed, its very stable, never ever had to switch to my CD case because of a crash or anything like that. Countless hours of intensive club playing, flawlessly (and also *really* countless hours of after-party dj jams). But the time seems to be moving fast for serato. Only two decks, no digital output, flaky (and very late) midi support, no effects. These are things that made me peek into Traktor.

    Then, the whole digital DJ thing. And the possibilities, 4 decks, full midi control (and supported controllers).

    Yesterday I purchased what I think its the coffin and nails for my serato setup. A Xone 4D mixer/controller/soundcard and Traktor Pro. I'm following the steps of a fellow (worldwide known) DJ and producer friend, the things that he's doing now, with both Traktor and Ableton and the xone controllers, its amazing. And Serato simply cant keep the pace. Many will argue that Serato is a time-code vinyl only, but its simply not true, since they added Midi support. You *can* actually play with controllers and serato, but its a hack. Traktor seems ready to both controller djs and timecode djs. I say seems because I'm yet to test it in a gig (or test it at all, its not even mapped to my xone and i hate the default mappings that come with traktor).

    It's very sad to leave serato, for me. The business model is completely different for Rane and NI, one focuses in a proprietary hardware based dongle (and a expansion hardware with the ttm57 mixer, explaining why no FX on serato software) and free software, the other focus in selling software (and optionally a very good soundcard). I clearly picked the model I think its going to give me much more freedom.

    I may be completely wrong, but this SL3, to me, is the worst response Rane could give to Traktor. Its a total disappointment, its not addressing the needs of the new digital djs, its not enough for those that already own the SL1 make the move. Either Rane and Ableton launch a real killer integration (surely a $1800 value, not cheap), or Serato is going to be a niche company, specially if NI addresses the stability problems that seems to affect some users (and i have strong reason to believe these problems only exist because they support a much broader range of hardware integration than serato and its proprietary soundcard-dongle).

    Lets see, the fanboys will always be fanboys. I prefer the pragmatic approach.

  • Dj Anthum

    Nar i dont get any of this stuff really…i dont even understand Midi…

    Im just the usual two technics 1200's my mac and SL1 Dj…if i was to buy it i think it would be a waste of money for me ($1100 AUS) like i said…maybe cause i dont use midi its worthless to me?…the local Dj Store around here is offering a special trade in price if we take back our SL1 though??….might check it out…someone give me a quick run down of Midi?

    Thanks people…

    Anthum..

  • kenny change

    when will they make a hub with enough inputs for cdj's and turntables in one box? it would be nice to have something that can be installed in clubs and reduce connecting and reconnecting

  • Troll-O-Matic

    [quote comment=""][...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...][/quote]

    Mp3s aren’t 24-bit so playing them out at 24-bit wouldn’t matter…and the bit depth of the Time coded vinyls isn’t 24-bit either….so the 24-bit is snake oil

    High-grade phono preamps upgrade the performance of most mixers.?
    what doesn’t make sense?

    Galvanic isolation prevents computer noise from interfering with audio path.?
    this is standard on all audio devices…any hardware developer knows that the USB bus is extremely noisy

    SL1 box is fine…this is snake oil at its finest

  • DJ VTEK Z.C.P.

    [quote comment=""][...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...][/quote]
    so i got chance to play with both traktor scratch and serato.

    the feel of both serato and traktor is on point feels just like the real deal…

    my opinion
    traktor blows serato away… why? soundcard and midi capability and 7 chanels. now days a good sound card and a computer is all you need for production with traktor you got production and dj.

    sofware
    no complaints. serato is more organized eazier to look at.. traktor has to many clicks to get to where you want

    my frustration with traktor

    traktor is realy advanced but serato is the INDUSTRY STANDARD witch means its a hassle to switch to traktor after another dj using serato is done with his or her set in a club/party

    would i get rid of traktor/ serato??? hard to say… i would proly keep traktor because of the sound card and midi capability, 7 channels sound quality

  • Danny

    Traktor 3 didn’t allow me to play songs I purchased on iTunes. That was a huge inconvinience.

  • http://www.myspace.com/urbanks urbanKS

    oh, so PLEASE HURRY UP with codin
    the CoreAudio-Driver for RANE SL 3.

    i thought there is one available
    before i bought my rane sl 3.

    but big respect for your development
    in the past.

    (hry up plz)
    :-)

  • Anony

    [quote comment=""][...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...][/quote]

    so what is the verdict before I seal the deal with SL3…..I was almost sold now after reading perhaps a waste of hard earned $$$

  • http://www.myspace.com/urbanks urbanKS

    so what is the verdict before I seal the deal with SL3…..I was almost sold now after reading perhaps a waste of hard earned $$$[/quote]

    the advantage is maybe that you can record your valuable vinyl on .aif-format in 24 bit. so you can play your much better mirrowed (24 bit – not just 16bit) vinyls-songs on parties without taking your vinyl-records to this one.

    but always when you just play mp3 or rips from cd (just 16 bit) you can take the sl1 too.

    but i think on PA’s (power ampliefies f.e. in big discotheques) its better to take original vinyls or 24bit files. these sounds clearer than other …

    maybe it depends on what quality of sound you enjoy …

  • Mad Cow

    [quote comment=""][...] Article at djtechtools.com: http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/04/01/serato-sl3/ [...][/quote]

    Just upgraded my laptop and it won’t work with my Stanton Final Scratch! Finally need to upgrade my DVS, and was looking into Serato… but is it wise to spend extra cash on the ‘New Developments’ of the SL 3, or should I look for a cheaper second hand SL 1?

  • Anonymous

    Actually, you could, using this switcher box from Magma. Cool little device, and really usefull with multiple DVS systems =)[/quote]

    just looks like another pain in the ass thing to bring along to gigs and will take extra time to set up. Plus it looks like u would have to set it up before hand. What if ur just flying into a gig and just showing up at the club when it’s your time to play. Most likely the DJ before is not going to have this gadget set up and ready to go..

    I wish there an extra USB port with a switch over or more inputs or something.

  • LP_VIP

    After my readings here i can see diferent positions when it comes to sl3 and all others s/c and interfaces.
    We have producers here that actually will always dig for the perfection and high standards on sound quality as they need it at first, we also have people that spins in high end places with sophisticated sound set ups that will measure this gadets from that prespective. And we have here also Mobil Dj’s that will always look for portability and easy to set up stuff.

    But people,we missing something here and it is the only thing that we all should agree cos at the end of the day is what all we talk and discuss here will come to.

    PEOPLE AT PRIVATE PARTIES, CLUBS,OR ANY OTHER VENUES WHERE THEY ARE DANCING OUR MUSIC THEY DONT NOTICE A DIFERENCE BET A 24 BIT 16 BIT SONG, THEY DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE RECORDING YOUR GIG OR NOT THEY DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE TALKING TRHU A MIC CONNECTED TO THE EXTERNAL SC OR CONNECTED TO THE MIXER AND SO ON…
    One thing that they really will notice is if because a crash or a freeze the whole party stops either for 2 minutes or 20 .
    SO I THINK THAT IF OUR MAIN CONCERN HERE IS ENTERTAIMENT ALL THIS GADETS DO THEIR JOB AND ACTUALLY THEY ALL ARE NOT FOR THE SAME PEOPLE.
    If we want to be fair with our comments we should not disqualified a gadet cos it doesnt goes with us, lets put our experience up front and we will gain more respect for our comments and we then really help other people that this gadets goes with them.

  • red rooster

    What mixer doesnt have a mic input? Mx2200? what?

  • DJ 2wist

    I rarely post anything anywhere on the net, due to all of the clever Dbags out there, but I have to say, My introduction to the Digital DJ world (having been an old school vinyl DJ), was the Stanton Final Scratch….

    We all know what a piece of trash that was…

    I went from that to Serato… The club I played at had the TTM57 mixer…

    Serato is great for Vinyl DJs.

    My friend uses Traktor…. also with Turntables and 2 midi controllers (the xone I think)…

    Traktor is okay…

    The main point I want to make here is that Serato vs Traktor is Apples vs Oranges….

    Serato is made for vinyl DJs and Turntablists….

    Traktor is more geared towards Artists…

    All you really need is 2 turntables… microphone optional… and as stated earlier, your mixer should have that, or you need a new mixer…

    Traktor can handle 4 decks, and all kinds of MIDI instruments… But I don’t know when that much instrumentation has been necessary. Most of the ‘artists’ putting out mash-ups can’t even get 2 songs to sound right… and that’s with a studio full of gear… It’s hard for me to believe that a DJ is going to mash up 4 tracks live… then throw their own synths on top of it… without it sounding like absolute $&*t….

    DJs made a place for themselves with 2 (and occasionally 3) turntables… Serato is perfect for that.

    I also have to state that Serato has no ‘sync’ or ‘autosync’ feature… You have to do the work yourself….. You don’t even need gear to use Traktor…. You can cue mixes and autosync tempos all in advance.

    DJ is short for Disc Jockey… Because you had to ‘ride’ the records (live drummers never had perfect tempo)

    If you are an artist, and you are creating some unique sound… Try out Traktor.

    If you are a DJ… and you play music that your crowd wants to hear, Serato is far superior…

    Simplicity is nice.

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..(  and we all know how ”band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck ”beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more..  Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..(  and we all know how ”band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck ”beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more..  Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..(  and we all know how ”band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck ”beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more..  Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..( and we all know how “band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck “beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more.. Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..( and we all know how “band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck “beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more.. Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

  • Mick-h

    i know theres all the hype and stuff about em both..it all mixing platformes at the end of day, vinyl,cd,pc mixing programs whats next i-pod mixing yes and that!!? haha whatever u want to mix on mr dj..im a vinyl junkie from way back and took me a bit to get used to mixing on cd ..when thay firstcame out too i gave all the cd players shit back in the pre 2000… but i brought some later anyway coz everybody used them after all!! Look ive used both traktor and serato and loved them they mix and do great stuff ..and sound great no more$$ heavy vinyl..now the planet is mixing too.. spreading the love!!

    after looking at both to spend my cash on…and vigerous internet info on the two products..i decided that Traktor did everything serato did to a tea..scratching, midi hook up,decks , oooh great everything… but it seemed that Traktor gave me more…. 4 decks ,recording,effects,mutipull loops..even from ” band” recording ” samples using beat grids to keep em loops in time..( and we all know how “band music” sucks for keeping bpm) Traktor allows u to play and bend the music,skip from beats to others from the original 2deck “beatmatching pre recorded tracks dj” when we all know this is first gear of mixing ..serato is like my Technics sl1200s and mixer GREAT fun, work reliable and play great
    Traktor will do the same…but just so so much more.. Hey serato Lovers! Serato Itch is out.. it has more of Traktors features!! fo u to enjoy!! xxx

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