• http://wwww.digitalsoundsonline.com Dijital

    One of the best programs, in my opinion for tagging is one called Tag & Rename. Its not free, but its not expensive. It has saved me loads of time organizing my tracks

  • DJeff

    If anybody is interested check this out:

    http://dougscripts.com/itunes/

    It's great for managing ITunes…

    Cheers and keep up the great work!

  • http://www.binaryfx.org binaryFX

    I followed most of the info from the first tutorial, and have found it invaluable in finding tracks quickly. I agree with the comments about there not being enough tag information native in iTunes. I have been delving into harmonic mixing and I have used the grouping tag to list my Camelot numbers. This poses a problem when I want to further classify tracks by their "feeling" such as dark, light, deep, so on and so on.

    I would like to know if anyone else has this same problem?

  • http://www.mikecharles.net/blog/ Mike Charles

    [quote comment="15664"]i'm using a PC and i can't quite find a great way to do this. i'm using mp3tag and am assuming its functionality is really similar to your mac based program. how would i convert any the file name to the format above? [/quote]

    Here is a comment from Big Al in the previous post.

    For Windows users I find TagScanner an excellent and FREE tagging tool. Grab it here: http://www.xdlab.ru/en/index.htm

  • http://www.urbankonnex.co.uk DJ Q-Tee

    Another thing to check with files that won't update is whether they are read-only…

    Great post… Just glad to know that I am quite smart, as I've been using these techniques for over a year…

  • tobamai

    I maintain an itunes library because you can make smart playlists and traktor will automatically import them, but I've had nothing but problems with using itunes to actually manage files. For managing the filename and metadata I'm using foobar2000. It isn't user friendly and won't work the way you want right out of the box, but if you put some time into it then it will do just about anything you want.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Kr3Ht607g dishevel

    first of all, mike, thanks for taking the time to write this up and answer our questions!

    question — i use beatport for about 99.9% of my downloads. i'd love to have everything filename-wise in your format:

    artist – track (mix name).mp3

    dishevel – just an example (original mix).mp3

    dishevel – another example (sasha remix).mp3

    i'm using a PC and i can't quite find a great way to do this. i'm using mp3tag and am assuming its functionality is really similar to your mac based program. how would i convert any the file name to the format above? yeah, it's really nitpicking, but the best i can get the example above to is:

    artist – track – mix name.mp3

    dishevel – just an example – original mix.mp3

    dishevel – another example – sasha remix.mp3

    any quick tips? thanks for the help.

  • http://www.mikecharles.net/blog/ Mike Charles

    [quote comment="15661"]I just wish there were more tagging fields available. =]

    [/quote]

    After clicking get info, check out the "video" and "sorting" tabs where there are a bunch more, generally unused tag fields available.

    [quote comment="15662"]So i started using the grouping-tag.

    Bad idea, the label information is gone again since Traktor doesn't show the grouping-tag.

    [/quote]

    Traktor Pro loads iTunes playlists every time you fire it up. So even though the grouping field will not display in Traktor, a smart playlist built off of the grouping field will still be available to you in the program.

  • w

    very good posting. thanks for that and for everything else you guys did so far.

    in my opinion itunes wil never be very good for organising large libraries because it simply uses too few tags and the few used tags aren't the same used by other programs. I really have no idea how to organize a big library of electronic music without a tag for the record label. In fact sometimes the label ist more important than the interpret (Basic Channel anyone?) Afaik a dedicated label-tag exists in the ID3 specs and it is used by by almost any other program like Amarok, Media Monkey and of course: Traktor . Most of the tracks I bought a Beatport include a label tag, but itunes never shows it.

    So i started using the grouping-tag.

    Bad idea, the label information is gone again since Traktor doesn't show the grouping-tag.

    Has anyone out there a good idea what to do with the label info?

    Since I'm a mac-user there's simply no alternative to itunes. perhaps Amarok

    really will come up with a native OSX-version, but Amarok wil never be integrated in Traktor in a such comfortable way itunes does…

    Perhaps there's a way to copy the tags from one field to the other. But every tagger i know for mac uses only the tags used by itunes.

    cheers, Walter

  • http://www.connectedgrooves.com Jared

    One thing that I was experiencing with ID3 2.4 was that many tags would not save converted information unless I used a 3rd party program. I read up on line and apparently this is a common thing with 2.4 and iTunes has had some incompatibility problems with the format and it is recommended that you stay with 2.3. Since switching all my trax back.. No problems.. I would also really like to thank you guys for diving into the smart playlist stuff. It's made a huge difference in my already OCD organization. I just wish there were more tagging fields available. =]

    Keep up the good work.

    Jared-F

  • http://www.djnvidia.info Dj Nvidia

    Yo,

    Thanks for the post I am currently in the process of changing my ID3 tags on my songs with iTag.

    I am still a little worry that if I change too much of the track ID3 tags, that iTunes won't recognize it (and therefore neither will Traktor)…

    But so far no problem, so I'll let you all know if I hit a snag

  • http://domas.podomatic.com Domas

    Just got done arranging my tracks following your tips in the first article. Great follow up. Will definitely try some of these tips out as well.

    Thanks!!!

  • http://www.mikecharles.net/blog/ Mike Charles

    I'm glad my tips are helping people. That's what we are here to do. Ean brings up a very good point about iTunes troubles with album art. I've been slowly adding art to my tracks now that Traktor Pro has incorporated it. I'm going to try that one out myself.

    DJ AJ: While I can't answer all your questions at this time i do want to tell you, I STRONGLY recommend making copies of, or backing up your tracks before trying out any voodoo on them. The last thing you'd want is to lose all those tags, cues, and beatgrids you've worked hard on. Its better to err on the side of caution.

  • DJ Anthony Jacobs

    I don't know who I'm to thank here, Ean Or Mike, or Both! But thank you so much for recognizing and addressing this problem! Once again I love your work.

    Now that I think about it, this issue first began shortly after I tried to download album art from iTunes for the very first time in order to try-out Album art in Traktor Pro. Before this I have never had this issue with any version of iTunes.

    We are not quite do here yet… If you will, I still have a few questions:

    1) After trying out your suggestion to convert the ID3 of the "stuck" tracks from v2.4 to v1.1, I grabbed a couple of the known problem tracks and iTunes still would not overwrite the file to v1.1. Do I need to try to convert all of the tracks in my Library at once to see if it will "force" iTunes to make the conversion? Then do the same back up to v2.4?

    2) If so, before I do this… Will I loose any important meta-data from my tracks if I revert to v1.1 from v2.+ versions (ie: Traktor Pro, beatgrids, loops, cues ect,,)?

    3) You have recommended finally using ID3 v2.4,,, however I have heard that it has been known to be very "buggy" still and may cause problems with certain applications. I have had others recommend ID3 v2.3 as being the most reliable an stable version. What are your thoughts?

    Once again a BIG thanks for your help,,, This town I'm staying in at the moment seem to have little to no Mac "Genius" help… and info on this IS very scarce on the net (I've been searching for days).

  • Darrel

    Great post man . Using these smart playlists have have got my library so much more organized . Thanks!!!!!!