Now I have been trying to figure out if there is a fw800-fw-400 converter for m-audio 410 and an fw800 – 4pin fw 400 for my video camera.

OH NO! No firewire 400? Crap. Apple is slowly moving away from the superior data connection because of market pressure. 800 is rare, in my experience. If something supports FW at all, it's usually 400. GAH!

Another bad point: no mouse button. I turn off tap-to-click on any laptop I use because I CONSTANTLY make accidental clicks. Their accidental-click-ignoring software had better be higher than top-notch if they're gonna do this, because I'll be completely unable to deal with it otherwise.

Besides those gripes, everything else looks cool…I only hope I can afford one in the next year or so.

there is probably a fw800 to fw400 adapter that comes with the computer. they have been on the market for a while now. fw hubs as well. but, i too do not like it. i liked to use my hard drive on fw800, audio on fw400 and extra whatevers on usb. now it looks like an overload on one bus. well, not a real overload but ya know.

i guess the older ones ore going to be cheap now! and the 17inch looks even better!!

Yeah, good news for refurb (roxors) macbooks, they dropped in price.

ATP, you might try one in person before you discount the new touchpad. If you watch the video they've posted it looks like the whole thing physically clicks down (not a tap), which may or may not make a difference for you.

Ean, I think macbook pros have had multitouch for a while now.

This is good news for most people who want a laptop. They're thinner, lighter, have a nicer screen, and claim to have a better graphics chipset. But yeah, it's bad news for anyone who wants to use a firewire device or (heaven forbid) two. It's a nod to the main stream market while snubbing the creative types who have built their market over the last fifteen years.

Guys, FireWire 800 is backwards compatible, all you need is the right cable. http://xrl.us/otwzn

[quote comment=""]Guys, FireWire 800 is backwards compatible, all you need is the right cable. http://xrl.us/otwzn/quote
nice one- thanks for pointing that out. its still sad that the 13" does not have any firewire ports though. That is IMO the best size for a dj laptop. the current 13" model is incredible.

[quote comment="14488"]OH NO! No firewire 400? Crap. Apple is slowly moving away from the superior data connection because of market pressure. 800 is rare, in my experience. If something supports FW at all, it's usually 400. GAH!

Another bad point: no mouse button. I turn off tap-to-click on any laptop I use because I CONSTANTLY make accidental clicks. Their accidental-click-ignoring software had better be higher than top-notch if they're gonna do this, because I'll be completely unable to deal with it otherwise.

Besides those gripes, everything else looks cool…I only hope I can afford one in the next year or so.[/quote]

As said by dthree: If you get a cable that on one end has the FW800 connector and on the other end has the FW400 connector everything should work fine.

Also, ATP: I think you might have misunderstood the "no trackpad button" idea. The trackpads themselves are the button. You can turn off the touch to click (which is off by default) and actually press anywhere on the trackpad, which will move down with a physical click like the current button. You can see it being done in the official Apple video at some point on Apple's website.

I think besides FW lacking on the Macbook, everything else looks good. Maybe the lack of 2 FW ports on the Macbook Pro might be an issue, although you can usually daisy chain FW devices.

This is Kinda good news for those who want a "tricked out" macbook and can't afford one. Now all the Core 2 Duo macbooks will drop in price and you can pick one up the basic model for a lot less than the normal $$, spend approx. $150 and upgrade it to 2 or 4 GB Ram and increase the HD speed and size. Look @ the price of the Core Duo macbooks they are going for around $500 right now so for $650 you can get a 13" mack book that is capable of running as fast as a macbook pro.

[quote comment=""]This is Kinda good news for those who want a "tricked out" macbook and can't afford one. Now all the Core 2 Duo macbooks will drop in price and you can pick one up the basic model for a lot less than the normal $$, spend approx. $150 and upgrade it to 2 or 4 GB Ram and increase the HD speed and size. Look @ the price of the Core Duo macbooks they are going for around $500 right now so for $650 you can get a 13" mack book that is capable of running as fast as a macbook pro.[/quote]

Check this site for the upgrades:
http://otherworldcomputing.com/

Ean, you may want to change the end of the article to read "Gizmodo has an insane amount of posts including some hands on action with the new computers."

You currently have it reading Gizmondo, which is not the cool tech gizmo site, but the handheld gaming company that was headed by the crazy ass Swede who wrecked that Ferrari Enzo in southern CA in 2005.

I know, nit picky…

cheers,

sYn

oops thanks for pointing that out! Thats a crazy story- its amazing that investors throw money at these people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQQeWZTbv4Q

[quote comment="14488"]OH NO! No firewire 400? Crap. Apple is slowly moving away from the superior data connection because of market pressure. 800 is rare, in my experience. If something supports FW at all, it's usually 400. GAH![/quote]

You can adapt your ethernet port to a FW400, and it in theory works for FW800 devices too, but I don't think there are any products out there yet. So the 13" should be fully functional for just about any DJ set up. I wouldn't be surprised to see apple start making these adapters soon.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=2058523…

Ooops. Sorry to get your hopes up. Did a little more research and it looks like that thing is only for a network cable tester. :(

Well here's to hoping that someone figures out how to make it work.

I tested one out and it seems to feel more heavier. The hard drive for the macbook pro is now user replaceable, which brings more backup options. The glossy only option can probably be an issue in the daytime gigs. The glass trackpad works great!!! the problem is not the entire trackpad is a button only the bottom half. The trackpad can probably be modified for an x/y because the size is bigger!! Either way I cant wait to open one up

Great article here:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/10/14/what-the…

Send your feedback to Apple here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbook.html

you guys may be interested in this petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi…

Hello everyone…can you guys tell me why I would want to buy a new MBP over the older version? I am not about the glossy screen and the lack of two firewire ports. I also see an advantage of the old MBP b/c now I can get one for a discount, although not sure how much yet. I don't see me using the power of the new graphics card, battery life seems to be the same, and I am not sure if the new trackpad is going to truly be that much of an advantage…

I am getting into digital DJing, just got the VCI-100, and waited for the new Macs to come out before I made a decision, any input would be greatly appreciated.

Lastly, I will be using the laptop for all sorts of things, I am not into anything specific just yet, but would like a computer that allows me to get into new things w/o limiting me too much…i.e. if I wanted to get into music editing more, etc.

Im happy with my previous released 13" blackbook w firewire. This release doesn't seem to offer enough to trade up anyway. (also kinda sucks that they took the firewire option off the 13")

I have the same doubt than Reg, i was waiting for the new mbp to go out and get one for my gigs, i have a firewire 410 sound card and now i'll need to buy an adapter just to use my work gear. Not crazy about the trackpad not crazy about the video card since i'm a dj not a graphic designer.

I'm getting into video djing with Serato and I think the new macbook pro with 2.8 duo and the new graphics card will be able to handle it superbly.

what do you guys think about djing with traktor on it, i saw a video that it quit unexpectedly heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjlVGE-QFVU

im considering buying the new macbook 13" cause i have no firewire cause of my m-audo fast track pro and total control and emu keyboard are all usb.

cheers matt

[quote comment="14488"]OH NO! Another bad point: no mouse button. I turn off tap-to-click on any laptop I use because I CONSTANTLY make accidental clicks. Their accidental-click-ignoring software had better be higher than top-notch if they’re gonna do this, because I’ll be completely unable to deal with it otherwise.

Besides those gripes, everything else looks cool…I only hope I can afford one in the next year or so.[/quote]

The new mac’s dont use tap to click I don’t even think they support the function the whole track pad is the mouse pushing it down you will hear a click and it will click on something. And using two fingers spread apart to click allows a right click so you no longer have to control click with a mac book. And multi touch scrolling and zooming has endless uses. It may sound bad on here but get your hands on one you wont regret it. I’m on mine now and I just zoomed to read this small font=]

I have the new MBpro 13″ and mine does have firewire?? I don’t get it?? I don’t understand… I have moy hard drive occonnected right now throug the firewire!??

[quote post="821"]Written by Ean Golden on October 14th, 2008[/quote]

I had to double check it too, djtt showed me this post in ‘related posts you may be interested in’ despite it being 2 years old.

How about the HP Envy 14? That seems to be a comparable pc version to the MacBook Pro and is more affordable. You can get an Envy with Intel Core i7-720QM Quad Core, 8GB DDR3 of Memory, 640Gb @7200RPM Hard Drive, with Windows7 Professional 64-bit for $1620.00 from the site. More with these Hard Drives – $1660.00 with 750GB @5400RPM Hard Drive and $2095.00 with 256GB Solid State Hard Drive. Less if you go with i5 Dual Core Processor, i5-450M Dual Core $1420.00, i5-560M Dual Core $1520.00, i5-580M Dual Core $1570.00. Any input on the above? I am on the market for a new laptop to go with my new gear and can’t decide between a PC which from what i can see gets more bang for the buck or pay the price for a MacBook Pro.

Also there is the Dell XPS 14 with Intel i7-740QM Quad Core, 500GB @7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, 8GB DDR3 Memory and Windows7 Professional 64-bit for about $1560.00 from the site. $1430.00 with Windows7 Home premium.

I hear nothing but good from people that have switched over to Macs. Im switching over next year. Im tired of shitty ass window updates. My pC has worked decent for the first 2 years. But this year it has froze up on me several times and I cant afford that anymore. Im switching over to Mac because their more reliable.

You get the new if you’re a few generations old

You get the new if you’re a few generations old

You get the new if you’re a few generations old